Thanks Jovan Belcher

[SBR Lou]

Have helmets gotten worse? I mean yeah athletes are a little stronger and faster than they used to be but it's not that much different is it? Maybe the big contracts these days create a lot more stress and drama for these players than there used to be.

Look a lot safer nowadays than these:

[InTheDrink]

could be , but who knows

can be a whole factor of things

yeah as for all the other stuff there have been a couple nba guys go off the deep end (bison dele stands out) but none have committed suicide from what i recall...seems like they have the same pressures....makes you wonder if the size of the roster is a factor for the other two guys...just nameless guys no one knows trying to hang on to a roster spot and if they dont make it then the good life is over anyway

[KingKoopa]

And how about that moron trying to throw gun control into NFL commentary. Is the NFL backing gun control?

[ebbearsfb1]

yeah as for all the other stuff there have been a couple nba guys go off the deep end (bison dele stands out) but none have committed suicide from what i recall...seems like they have the same pressures....makes you wonder if the size of the roster is a factor for the other two guys...just nameless guys no one knows trying to hang on to a roster spot and if they dont make it then the good life is over anyway

thats a good point... as far as both wide outs go... and as far as bechler no one knows or will ever know what made him snap...


im just gonna use McKinely for example, sure if the ever day person who watches the nfl might not know who that 6th wide out on the Broncos is, or care that he makes 500k a year..

but where he grew up, those kids that town, dont see him as a 6th wide out, they see him as NFL player who made it, they see a shot,a chance...
then when McKinely is going to or about to be cut, he sees that world of success around him starting to crumble, depression, lack of success starts to sink, feel like you let people down and you feel like there is no way out but to end it

in Kennys case he injuried his knee.. when you get hurt as a late round or undrafted pick you dont get a 2nd chance when your lucky your a first round pick

sounds like it was similiar in O.J's case as well... knee injury and what not... so depressing that he went back to his high school where he was a star, and shot himself . its like he went back to the last place he had happiness


as far as bechler.. heard he had a head injury 2 weeks ago... where he had short term memory loss... not an excuse at all but his brain should be looked at..

it seems like he snapped, fire shots at the girlfriend.. as soon as he did it he knew he had no way out, and thought his best option was to end it...

[ebbearsfb1]

And how about that moron trying to throw gun control into NFL commentary. Is the NFL backing gun control?

dont think they are saying that, I guess if people want to mention gun control and 2nd amendment rights, they should probably note that Costa was exercising his 1st amendment right of free speech.

right?

[TheCentaur]

Wow...I believe I have just been parachuted into the Jovan Belcher fan club...

No way pal I think ur missing the sarcasm

[TheCentaur]

dont think they are saying that, I guess if people want to mention gun control and 2nd amendment rights, they should probably note that Costa was exercising his 1st amendment right of free speech.

right?

I think everyone on here loves free speech, the outcry is because so much of the media pushes the more liberal points of view while silencing and punishing other opinions. Very, very dangerous

[Kermit]

I figure he saved taxpayers about 3 to 4 million dollars by offing himself. Shame that the poor baby will grow up with no biological parents, but hopefully she is taken care of properly and leads a good life.

[Statman]

Will be interesting to see the autopsy results of what was in his system at the time this happened...Sad story nonetheless

[ebbearsfb1]

I think everyone on here loves free speech, the outcry is because so much of the media pushes the more liberal points of view while silencing and punishing other opinions. Very, very dangerous

Fair Enough reason.. not really into the left/right stuff but see the complaint...
Personally, i've never been in to guns one way or the other. dont see why people are into them. but to each is own... I try to listen to both sides of every thought, argument, etc.. before formulating an opinion... whether it is left or right etc...

The problem with what Costa said about stricter gun laws and it saving belcher and perkins is, that is not the case at all.

Jevon Belcher purchased both guns legally, never had any major strikes on his record, even with stronger gun laws it would not of stopped him from getting them.

And its not like you can wipe guns completely out of the United States either... Cause even if those laws were made tougher...I live about 30 minutes from nyc, 15 minutes from newark, about 10 from new brunswick, 45 camden, 1 hr from philly.... i dont think legals guns are the problems their Bob, its the illegal guns that are still out there..that their is little to no control over..

now if im wrong over that last part would love to hear the right answer, as I said im not up to date on gun information,

[Ajax1489]

dont think they are saying that, I guess if people want to mention gun control and 2nd amendment rights, they should probably note that Costa was exercising his 1st amendment right of free speech.

right?

I love the first amendment as well as the second, but it was in bad taste. Costas talked about a 1 sided political issue on Sunday Night Football. Talk about it on FoxNews or MSNBC, but don't push your agenda during a game.

[bettilimbroke999]

I can't understand how someone can justify taking anothers life before taking their own.

If you're going to off yourself, spend whatever you want doing the greatest shit possible then go jump off a bridge.

Nah shoot tha bitch that drove ya over the edge 9 times then blow your brains out...Javon played it perfectly

[hels]

NFL to give the daughter 52k/year until she's 23 if she's still in college at that age.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-around-the-league/0ap2000000105854/NFL-to-provide-benefits-for-Jovan-Belcher-s-daughter

[bettilimbroke999]

NFL to give the daughter 52k/year until she's 23 if she's still in college at that age.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...her-s-daughter

Plenty of fried chicken and similac for her 15 kids by the time she's 23

[The Giant]

Who cares about Belcher? This news is so last Saturday.

The guy is an animal that should've never seen the light of day.

His mother should have aborted him when she was in the 7th grade.

[TheCentaur]

NFL to give the daughter 52k/year until she's 23 if she's still in college at that age.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...her-s-daughter

I don't know why I just doubt she will graduate from high school much less get accepted into any real college

[KingKoopa]

Ebbears. True. But my 1st amendment right is to call him a moron for the things he says. I guess he can tell Nicole Kidman how she'd still be alive if not for guns?

[KingKoopa]

Ebbears. True. But my 1st amendment right is to call him a moron for the things he says. I guess he can tell Nicole Kidman how she'd still be alive if not for guns?

Or Nicole Simpson. That might work too. Lol

[ebbearsfb1]

Ebbears. True. But my 1st amendment right is to call him a moron for the things he says. I guess he can tell Nicole Kidman how she'd still be alive if not for guns?

Lol isn't Nicole Kidman still alive?

I agree your entitled to say what you want as well...
But like I said also bob was off the mark as the guns were legally purchased.

[ebbearsfb1]

I don't know why I just doubt she will graduate from high school much less get accepted into any real college

What does that say as a society though?
Girl is 3 months and already given a lousy chance to be successful later on in life...

[Mr Handicapable]

Bob Costas was right.....how many people get killed by the Batman idiot in Colorado if he's using a knife? The right wing Nazi wannabe in Norway killed 90 I think? Killing with a knife is just a wee bit harder and a big Oklahoma City bomb is too complicated for most of these idiots and doesn't give them the same satisfaction as firing guns. Wanting stricter gun control doesn't mean you're against the 2nd amendment. I like cars but people aren't allowed to drive around town doing 120.

As for Belcher....I'm also glad he shot himself. I don't blame guns....I blame the culture where people like Belcher grow up without a dad and making up their own idea of what a "man" should be. White liberals can't fix this problem and its not PC to talk about it anyway but its there. Bill Cosby got killed when he brought it up.

[Big Bear]

Panthers would have won that game if Belcher could have kept the firearms to himself.

Belchers death fired up his team and cost me my panthers bet.

That was only the 2nd win all season for the chiefs

[hougigo]

I agree... I don't give a fuk if she cheated on him and found pictures of her eating Vince Wilfork's asshole while getting tagged from behind by Albert Haynesworth... you dont take away the mother of your child you ignorant selfish fukkin moolinyan

Wow, how time flies. It wasn't that long ago he was the hottest thing in the league.... now I think he's a professional all you can eat eater

[ebbearsfb1]

Anyone read the article on esp today about McKinley and Murdock?
Hit the nail on the head as far as them thinking hey were failures as home town heroes..
I will post link when on a computer

thats a good point... as far as both wide outs go... and as far as bechler no one knows or will ever know what made him snap...


im just gonna use McKinely for example, sure if the ever day person who watches the nfl might not know who that 6th wide out on the Broncos is, or care that he makes 500k a year..

but where he grew up, those kids that town, dont see him as a 6th wide out, they see him as NFL player who made it, they see a shot,a chance...
then when McKinely is going to or about to be cut, he sees that world of success around him starting to crumble, depression, lack of success starts to sink, feel like you let people down and you feel like there is no way out but to end it

in Kennys case he injuried his knee.. when you get hurt as a late round or undrafted pick you dont get a 2nd chance when your lucky your a first round pick

sounds like it was similiar in O.J's case as well... knee injury and what not... so depressing that he went back to his high school where he was a star, and shot himself . its like he went back to the last place he had happiness


as far as bechler.. heard he had a head injury 2 weeks ago... where he had short term memory loss... not an excuse at all but his brain should be looked at..

it seems like he snapped, fire shots at the girlfriend.. as soon as he did it he knew he had no way out, and thought his best option was to end it...