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  • Panic
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    • 01-06-08
    • 10367

    #1
    Knicks trades.
    What are they doing? They are looking good. Above .500 and learning a new system. Now, they go and trade away two 20 point scorers in Crawford and Randolph. In return they get a 12 pt scorer, 13 pt scorer, and a 9 pt scorer in Harrington, Mobley, and Thomas. Man, this is a big sign they are going for LeBron. You dont just traded away 2 guys like that for the junk they got in return.
  • Junkyard Dog
    SBR MVP
    • 03-12-07
    • 4552

    #2
    all about clearing cap room for '10
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Yeh

      It must be a done deal with James now
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      • Panic
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        • 01-06-08
        • 10367

        #4
        They have put alot of faith in it. They must have some kind of behind the back agreement with him. If not, Knick fans are gonna blow up after all the Isiah moves and now this.
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        • infamousdx
          SBR Sharp
          • 10-01-08
          • 362

          #5
          This was the plan before... it was just icing that they were doing well with Dantoni's new system.
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          • Dougie Fresh
            SBR High Roller
            • 11-01-08
            • 226

            #6
            There are some other big name players who will be free agents on 2010 if they can't get Lebron
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            • Panic
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              • 01-06-08
              • 10367

              #7
              No one on Lebrons level. Wade wont fill the seats like James. The Knicks are going balls to the wall for LeBron. I dont think they trade these 2 guys for a chance at Wade or Bosh.
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              • infamousdx
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-01-08
                • 362

                #8
                Of course but they cannot lure him with the allure of NYC and a worse-than-current-Cavs team... someone like NASH would be the perfect pickup for them. There is even talk of signing 2 2003 draft class stars, Lebron + 1, but tthat doesn't leave much for a bench, lol.
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                • joe the gambler
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 11-16-08
                  • 63

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Panic
                  No one on Lebrons level. Wade wont fill the seats like James. The Knicks are going balls to the wall for LeBron. I dont think they trade these 2 guys for a chance at Wade or Bosh.
                  Although I agree neither Bosh or Wade are on LeBron's level as he is the best in the game right now, probably by a good margin, but those two are fantastic players that I'm sure the Knicks would love to have. I think both Bosh and Wade will win an MVP sometime in their career. I think Bosh resigns with Toronto though and Wade will likely remain in Miami.

                  I think there is too much hype surrounding the free agent market of 2010 because I think more of them than not will resign with their current squad for big money. LeBron alone will make it an interesting summer though.
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                  • Panic
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                    • 01-06-08
                    • 10367

                    #10
                    Wade would be nuts to leave Miami. He's already won a ring. The fans adore him. The media wont be on him like in New York. Not mention the weather and the beautiful women. He'll get a max contract from them, so if I was him, I wouldnt go anywhere.
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                    • dr03
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                      • 02-20-06
                      • 252

                      #11
                      why would bush re-up to toronto
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                      • MoneySportsGuy
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-09-07
                        • 4891

                        #12
                        I dont see LeBron going to NY
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                        • rjt721
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-06-07
                          • 7929

                          #13
                          Brilliant trades. The chances of Lebron signing with the Knicks in two years just greatly improved.

                          Knicks might have grabbed one of the final playoff spots in the East before making these moves, and while they're not as good right now as they were 24 hours ago, they rid themselves of a hideous contract in Randolph which ran for two more years after this season. In making the two deals, the Knicks get back three players, all of whom have contracts that expire in 2010 - when Lebron's a free agent.
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                          • infamousdx
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 10-01-08
                            • 362

                            #14
                            They still run into HUGE problems if they don't bounce Curry though...

                            I don't see neither Bosh nor Wade leaving their teams but Bosh would fit in SO well in dantoni's system. As with Amare, a big man who can rebound and shoot the 18 footer will thrive in the system.

                            Also, let's not forget HOW MANY fa's there are in 2010:
                            Who's on track to become a free agent in the summers of 2009 and 2010. We've got the lists.
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                            • MoneySportsGuy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-09-07
                              • 4891

                              #15
                              yeah LeBron is just one of many and they better not be doing all this just for a chance at LeBron, sure he is amazing player but if it doesnt work out, basically the Knicks will be back square one, trying to rebuild yet again
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                              • Panic
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-06-08
                                • 10367

                                #16
                                I dont see anyone on the list that compares with Wade, Bosh, and LeBron. Dirk, Ginobilli, and Nash will all be in their 30's with alot of wear and tear. Joe Johnson will be in his 30's also.
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                                • Kingctb27
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-16-08
                                  • 2258

                                  #17
                                  Randolph and JC were just chuckers anyways. They will be better off with a highly efficient David Lee on the court who actually does play a little defense.
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                                  • The_Kid
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-09-08
                                    • 5049

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Kingctb27
                                    Randolph and JC were just chuckers anyways. They will be better off with a highly efficient David Lee on the court who actually does play a little defense.
                                    That's exactly why D'Antoni's system fit them perfectly. They both were producing great numbers this year. Crawford won't have to change his play much under Nellie. Clippers will soon find out that Randolph is one lazy load that just wants the ball in the post and plays no D.
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                                    • infamousdx
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 10-01-08
                                      • 362

                                      #19
                                      Too bad they're going to let DLee walk or trade him with Curry... NY loves Lee (or at least last year they did). As for the wear and tear on dirk and nash... it's true but Nash in dantoni's system paired with another superstar is still an elite PG which is more than one you can say for him this year.
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                                      • Panic
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-06-08
                                        • 10367

                                        #20
                                        But it wont be for another 2 years, infamous. Nash will be even further broken down. His back is horrible right now. He will be 35 -36 in 2010. Thats to old to run that system.
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                                        • rm18
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                                          • 09-20-05
                                          • 22291

                                          #21
                                          I don't think this trade hurts the Knicks they picked up much better shooters to fit into Dantonio's system
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                                          • infamousdx
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 10-01-08
                                            • 362

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Panic
                                            But it wont be for another 2 years, infamous. Nash will be even further broken down. His back is horrible right now. He will be 35 -36 in 2010. Thats to old to run that system.
                                            Yea if he goes anywhere, he has to bring PHX's miracle trainers that kept him alive and revived Shaq. BAsically Nash is just the consolation prize for NYK.
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                                            • BrandonLaz
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 11-18-08
                                              • 855

                                              #23
                                              I love having Harrington in his system a good big shooting center should do wonders. I picked him up in my fantasy team as soon as I heard the report a trade was in the works.
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                                              • Panic
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-06-08
                                                • 10367

                                                #24
                                                Harringtons production is definately gonna go up. Gonna be fun to see what kind of numbers he gets.
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                                                • WileOut
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-04-07
                                                  • 3844

                                                  #25
                                                  By that time DJ Augustine will be an elite PG and they will get him and Lebron.
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                                                  • joe the gambler
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 11-16-08
                                                    • 63

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by WileOut
                                                    By that time DJ Augustine will be an elite PG and they will get him and Lebron.
                                                    How are they going to get Augustine? Trade?

                                                    If NYK doesn't get LeBron in 2010 they are going to be screwed. To me it doesn't make sense for LeBron to leave the Cavs in 2010 unless a) he's already won a championship and would now like to do it in a big market with huge cash, or b) he's going to another title contender that is a bigger market and will pay more than the Cavs. Unless the Knicks pick up some other players by then I don't see why James would want to go there. If I were him I'd rather be in Cleveland or go to New Jersey to play with Harris, Yi and Lopez (I'm guessing Carter would have to be gone to make cap room). That would be a scary ass foursome in two years. Harris will be a very good point, James is the best in the game, Lopez will grow to be a dominant big man in the NBA and Yi is that soft shooter that James and Harris can drive and dish too when the paint is covered.

                                                    James has a lot of options and the Knicks better not be putting all their eggs in his basket or they could very well end up getting screwed.
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                                                    • purecarnagge
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-05-07
                                                      • 4843

                                                      #27
                                                      first of all the Knicks have the power here...nets done have anyone to put around Lebron...so thats a bust...right now its between Detroit, NYK.

                                                      Miami will prob not get wade back... I think wade is pissed they went from being so good to being so bad. He's seen Riley **** everyone over from coaches to players to coaches again...

                                                      I mean he basically said oh I got a good team here...sorry buddy your going to quit... then oh crap they are going to suck this year... lets just stop coaching now...

                                                      Riley is a douchebag.

                                                      Nash sucks in that new offense BTW
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                                                      • Panic
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-06-08
                                                        • 10367

                                                        #28
                                                        Forgot Amare was a free agent also. Thats the guy the Knicks should go after if they cant get LeBron.
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                                                        • dr03
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 02-20-06
                                                          • 252

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by joe the gambler
                                                          How are they going to get Augustine? Trade?

                                                          If NYK doesn't get LeBron in 2010 they are going to be screwed. To me it doesn't make sense for LeBron to leave the Cavs in 2010 unless a) he's already won a championship and would now like to do it in a big market with huge cash, or b) he's going to another title contender that is a bigger market and will pay more than the Cavs. Unless the Knicks pick up some other players by then I don't see why James would want to go there. If I were him I'd rather be in Cleveland or go to New Jersey to play with Harris, Yi and Lopez (I'm guessing Carter would have to be gone to make cap room). That would be a scary ass foursome in two years. Harris will be a very good point, James is the best in the game, Lopez will grow to be a dominant big man in the NBA and Yi is that soft shooter that James and Harris can drive and dish too when the paint is covered.

                                                          James has a lot of options and the Knicks better not be putting all their eggs in his basket or they could very well end up getting screwed.
                                                          LeBron wants to be a global icon. He can't do that in Cleveland. Needs to go to New York. But I believe it'll be for the Brooklyn Nets before the New York Knicks. Lebron is real good friends with Jay Z, part owner of the Nets.
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                                                          • I.R.B
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-12-08
                                                            • 3209

                                                            #30
                                                            They give up on this season to look ahead to next season.. Idiots if you ask me.. I really dont think they will land James anyway.
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                                                            • ICE-BLOOD
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-21-08
                                                              • 1004

                                                              #31
                                                              mobley, tthomas, and alharrington will fit into d'antoni's system
                                                              all can score and dont need major minutes
                                                              like getting 3 players for now for 2

                                                              great cap space move

                                                              lebron may wanna come to the knicks when the time comes
                                                              he'll be huge in ny off the court and that may be what he wants
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                                                              • Panic
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-06-08
                                                                • 10367

                                                                #32
                                                                ICE- those 3 guys aren't near the caliber that went out. This is all about LeBron. The Knicks are going for broke. I think Harrington will do good though.
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                                                                • ICE-BLOOD
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-21-08
                                                                  • 1004

                                                                  #33
                                                                  zach randolph definitely a cut above all them
                                                                  i'm thinking maybe this ny roster now will have the same amt of scoring with different guys getting open shots and someone different stepping up each night
                                                                  lots of double digit scorers every night, but maybe only 1 guy with 20

                                                                  ny should have enuff cap space to get good free agents in the future
                                                                  from the moves that are being made recently it looks like they're doing the right things, just hope they get a break with the guys they eventually get
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                                                                  • Panic
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-06-08
                                                                    • 10367

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Knicks have Marbury on the table for Marion right now. Heat arent biting. Thats gonna really be interesting if they can pull that trade off.
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                                                                    • ICE-BLOOD
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-21-08
                                                                      • 1004

                                                                      #35
                                                                      the marbury situation is messed up
                                                                      he was offered to play last night and said no
                                                                      he definitely is a good chip considering cap space

                                                                      i actually like the guy and think he still has good game
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