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  • bleek88
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-12-11
    • 6385

    #36
    id take jordan still his shot is too consitent
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    • BigDeem5
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-26-11
      • 17191

      #37
      LeBron would win in 1 on 1 or 21.
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      • DOM-Ganador
        SBR MVP
        • 05-30-12
        • 4479

        #38
        Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
        Cause they were not old enough to remember Jordan.
        LeBron is a freak of nature and certainly a great basketball player,but anyone over the age of 40 understands
        Jordans teams were not dominant and were closer to Clevelands in talent than what is now assembled in Miami.
        I am a Celtic fan, so no Chicago bias here. I get this is all individual opinions, not cut and dry facts, but if I were starting a team with any players from NBA history, LBJ wouldn`t make my top 5.
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        • raiders72001
          Senior Member
          • 08-10-05
          • 11144

          #39
          Originally posted by bradleysnyder
          Lebron James defense is FAR superior to Jordans.MJ could notttttt run the floor like lebron and swat people from behind like lebron does frequently.James is a better defensive player period.No matter what you say,thats already an established fact,
          Jordan much much better defensively. You ever watch him play?

          9-time All-Defensive selection:

          3-time steals leader: 1988, 1990, 1993

          1-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year: 1987-88[7

          Regular season

          All-Defensive First Team selections: 9
          Blocked shots by a guard, career: 893
          Blocked shots by a guard, season: 131 (1987–88)


          Only player in NBA history with more than one season of 200 steals and 100 blocked shots: 259 steals, 131 blocks (1987–88)
          Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win Defensive Player of the Year in the same season(1987–88)
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          • darkhat
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-18-10
            • 5722

            #40
            Saloon this fukkin bullshit

            Lebron couldn't hold jordan's fukkin jock
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            • raiders72001
              Senior Member
              • 08-10-05
              • 11144

              #41
              Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
              LeBron is a freak of nature and certainly a great basketball player,but anyone over the age of 40 understands
              Jordans teams were not dominant and were closer to Clevelands in talent than what is now assembled in Miami.
              I am a Celtic fan, so no Chicago bias here. I get this is all individual opinions, not cut and dry facts, but if I were starting a team with any players from NBA history, LBJ wouldn`t make my top 5.
              Celtics had some great teams through the years. Has to be fun to be a Celtics fan.
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              • YOUNGBUCK
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-16-10
                • 6510

                #42
                all that is true except there will be more Lebrons no there wont
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                • antifoil
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-11-09
                  • 3993

                  #43
                  as we are going to learn from the baseball AL mvp vote and gold glove awards. anything that has someone vote for the winner is not good evidence of the thing to be true.

                  even number of steals aren't a good indication of good defense. players can be bad defensively and get a bunch of steal. it just means you can jump into passing lanes, but doesn't mean you are a lock down defender.
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                  • EricZ116
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 10-09-10
                    • 493

                    #44
                    This is like a story I heard about Ty Cobb (in the 50s or 60s) being asked what he thinks he'd hit if he played then.

                    To paraphrase:

                    Ty Cobb: "probably around .270"
                    Interviewer: "why so low?"
                    Ty Cobb: "because I'm 60 fukking years old"
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                    • Ernie Mccracken
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-11-11
                      • 1986

                      #45
                      This guy did beat MJ in a game of 1 on 1.


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                      • bradleysnyder
                        Restricted User
                        • 04-18-07
                        • 6662

                        #46
                        Jordan was and is NOT better defense wise than lebron.Your smoking paint chips if you honestly believe this at heart.Lebron james has harder competition then jordan had.Jordan had a cake walk with all those lanky/skinny players walking around the court in basically speedos.

                        There is PROOF of this.Look what happened when jordan tried to return to the wizards and play ball.HE PHUCKING SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Because the competition was getting harder.No matter what anyone says tho you hate lebron and will not give him any props at all so this is like a yankees fan talking to a redsox fan.Lebron is FASTER/STRONGER THAN JORDAN.PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                        Where do you see jordan sprinting the length of the court to block a player from behind who thinks he has an easy lay-up?I dont care what you say and im not taking anything away from jordan,but lebron is more of an all around complete player than jordan.In 10 years your head will be spinning when you compare lebrons stats to jordans stats
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                        • antifoil
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-11-09
                          • 3993

                          #47
                          to show that the player was a good defender, you would need to find advanced metrics like ball denial, offensive player FG percentage, deflections(much better than steals), and the defensive spacing and recover on things like the pick and roll as a basic starter.
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                          • bradleysnyder
                            Restricted User
                            • 04-18-07
                            • 6662

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Ernie Mccracken
                            This guy did beat MJ in a game of 1 on 1.



                            Point Proven.There is SOOO many lebron haters that they will never give james credit.The man is a hard working athlete and hes on pace to tie or beat jordans record.James has been in the NBA for almost 10 years and he only has 1 championship.Your going to see how good james is when he still gets more then jordan and took 8 years of his NBA career to get his first one.LEBRON WILL DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO SHUT PEOPLES MOUTHS.

                            IM FROM COLUMBUS OHIO AND I HAVE LIVED IN FLORIDA SINCE 2005.I FOLLOWED LEBRON FROM THE DAYS HE WAS PLAYING HIGHSCHOOL BALL.

                            Another thing you guys fail to realize is james went straight from highschool to the NBA which is a HUGE transition.Jordan it least had time in college ball to prepare for the NBA,James DID NOT......It took lebron a little longer to get on track and a lot of it proy has to do with the shock of weak higschool opponets to the NBA!Same with Kobe Bryant.Jordan was/is an old school basketball player who played weaker competition and went through college ball before entering the NBA.

                            Please answer this one question Jordan Jockers????Just one good answer to this?

                            Why did kordan flop so bad when he made a come back as number 45 and played for the wizards?He was not even close to the best player in the NBA when he came back to the game.He phucking SUCKED when at the end of his career.Note that all the stats you provide about jordan are in his early bulls day.Almost NONE from his last days as a NBA player withh the wizards and his short stint with the bulls who traded him.If he was the GOD of basketball then why did he go to the wizards instead of retiring as a bull???PLEASE give some truthful answers to these questions!?!?1?
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                            • play4win
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-23-11
                              • 2208

                              #49
                              Beat kobe first before considering playing jordan!
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                              • bradleysnyder
                                Restricted User
                                • 04-18-07
                                • 6662

                                #50
                                Kobe would get SCHOOLED by lebron.I would say kobe is a better shooter,but lebron is a better driver.Kobe could not guard lebron,but lebron could guard kobe.That would be the diffrence
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                                • cubfan2121
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 02-24-08
                                  • 188

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by bradleysnyder
                                  Jordan was and is NOT better defense wise than lebron.Your smoking paint chips if you honestly believe this at heart.Lebron james has harder competition then jordan had.Jordan had a cake walk with all those lanky/skinny players walking around the court in basically speedos.

                                  There is PROOF of this.Look what happened when jordan tried to return to the wizards and play ball.HE PHUCKING SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Because the competition was getting harder.No matter what anyone says tho you hate lebron and will not give him any props at all so this is like a yankees fan talking to a redsox fan.Lebron is FASTER/STRONGER THAN JORDAN.PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                  Where do you see jordan sprinting the length of the court to block a player from behind who thinks he has an easy lay-up?I dont care what you say and im not taking anything away from jordan,but lebron is more of an all around complete player than jordan.In 10 years your head will be spinning when you compare lebrons stats to jordans stats
                                  Are you retarded?
                                  Seriously

                                  You are comparing Jordans career when he returned to the Wizards to James current state.

                                  This discussion was cool and debatable until you decided to offer locker room head and swallow the kings junk right after a game while in the hot tub. Then you probably took his jockstrap and used it as a gas mask just to whiff his aroma.

                                  If it will get you to shut up and stop talking nonsense then James is the best ever. There you win. You going to sleep better tonight?
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                                  • cubfan2121
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 02-24-08
                                    • 188

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by bradleysnyder
                                    Point Proven.There is SOOO many lebron haters that they will never give james credit.The man is a hard working athlete and hes on pace to tie or beat jordans record.James has been in the NBA for almost 10 years and he only has 1 championship.Your going to see how good james is when he still gets more then jordan and took 8 years of his NBA career to get his first one.LEBRON WILL DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO SHUT PEOPLES MOUTHS.

                                    IM FROM COLUMBUS OHIO AND I HAVE LIVED IN FLORIDA SINCE 2005.I FOLLOWED LEBRON FROM THE DAYS HE WAS PLAYING HIGHSCHOOL BALL.

                                    Another thing you guys fail to realize is james went straight from highschool to the NBA which is a HUGE transition.Jordan it least had time in college ball to prepare for the NBA,James DID NOT......It took lebron a little longer to get on track and a lot of it proy has to do with the shock of weak higschool opponets to the NBA!Same with Kobe Bryant.Jordan was/is an old school basketball player who played weaker competition and went through college ball before entering the NBA.

                                    Please answer this one question Jordan Jockers????Just one good answer to this?

                                    Why did kordan flop so bad when he made a come back as number 45 and played for the wizards?He was not even close to the best player in the NBA when he came back to the game.He phucking SUCKED when at the end of his career.Note that all the stats you provide about jordan are in his early bulls day.Almost NONE from his last days as a NBA player withh the wizards and his short stint with the bulls who traded him.If he was the GOD of basketball then why did he go to the wizards instead of retiring as a bull???PLEASE give some truthful answers to these questions!?!?1?

                                    If james breaks his leg this season and is never the same he the best ever based on what could have been and if he played 10 more years.
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                                    • raiders72001
                                      Senior Member
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 11144

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by bradleysnyder
                                      Jordan was and is NOT better defense wise than lebron.Your smoking paint chips if you honestly believe this at heart.Lebron james has harder competition then jordan had.Jordan had a cake walk with all those lanky/skinny players walking around the court in basically speedos.

                                      There is PROOF of this.Look what happened when jordan tried to return to the wizards and play ball.HE PHUCKING SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Because the competition was getting harder.No matter what anyone says tho you hate lebron and will not give him any props at all so this is like a yankees fan talking to a redsox fan.Lebron is FASTER/STRONGER THAN JORDAN.PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                      Where do you see jordan sprinting the length of the court to block a player from behind who thinks he has an easy lay-up?I dont care what you say and im not taking anything away from jordan,but lebron is more of an all around complete player than jordan.In 10 years your head will be spinning when you compare lebrons stats to jordans stats
                                      Jordan was 39 when he went to Wash. Jordan made steals from behind all the time. He would jump out of the gym to block shots. Go watch some tape. You're embarrassing yourself.
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                                      • swordsandtequila
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-23-12
                                        • 9757

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by bradleysnyder
                                        Jordan was and is NOT better defense wise than lebron.Your smoking paint chips if you honestly believe this at heart.Lebron james has harder competition then jordan had.Jordan had a cake walk with all those lanky/skinny players walking around the court in basically speedos.

                                        There is PROOF of this.Look what happened when jordan tried to return to the wizards and play ball.HE PHUCKING SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Because the competition was getting harder.No matter what anyone says tho you hate lebron and will not give him any props at all so this is like a yankees fan talking to a redsox fan.Lebron is FASTER/STRONGER THAN JORDAN.PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                        Where do you see jordan sprinting the length of the court to block a player from behind who thinks he has an easy lay-up?I dont care what you say and im not taking anything away from jordan,but lebron is more of an all around complete player than jordan.In 10 years your head will be spinning when you compare lebrons stats to jordans stats
                                        The more I read your posts, the more I believe you're a f*kng idiot (or 12 years old). You're comparing Jordan with the Wizards (after 6 championships and one retirement) to LeBron in his prime. LeBron is a fantastic talent, best in the game today. Can't hold a candle to Jordan from a mental toughness standpoint. Jordan would NEVER pass up a last possession shot, he demanded the ball. You say Jordan played against lanky/skinny players and weaker competition. Ever heard of the Bad Boys? A player driving the lane in Jordan's prime got knocked on his ass. The NBA changed the f*king rules because of Jordan. The fouls back then would get a player ejected today. You say it's unfair to compare, yet that's exactly what you're doing. Shut the f*ck up already.
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                                        • raiders72001
                                          Senior Member
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 11144

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                                          The more I read your posts, the more I believe you're a f*kng idiot (or 12 years old). You're comparing Jordan with the Wizards (after 6 championships and one retirement) to LeBron in his prime. LeBron is a fantastic talent, best in the game today. Can't hold a candle to Jordan from a mental toughness standpoint. Jordan would NEVER pass up a last possession shot, he demanded the ball. You say Jordan played against lanky/skinny players and weaker competition. Ever heard of the Bad Boys? A player driving the lane in Jordan's prime got knocked on his ass. The NBA changed the f*king rules because of Jordan. The fouls back then would get a player ejected today. You say it's unfair to compare, yet that's exactly what you're doing. Shut the f*ck up already.
                                          Great points. They knocked players on their ass when they drove the lane in the old days. Today it's ole or flagrant foul.
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                                          • bradleysnyder
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 04-18-07
                                            • 6662

                                            #56
                                            I jusssssssss moved in TO A BIG HOUUUUUUUEEE
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