Response to LT Profit..

[Nicky Santoro]

well, i will say this.. i am so mad at what you made me go through the last 24 hrs.. i had over 200 posts in 2 days just fighting with you after you calling me a cheater. I had so many regrets for this contest.. I went through hell for your 2k

This contest is enough work for me.. i already cost myself 1 unit by not betting washington in time cause i had to put in bet at game time and then post it at sbr before the 705 pm..

I know for 100% certain that if i did this contest with you, that you'd do this to me 231 more times.. I can tell by the way you are..And i dont want to go through this sht again

Half of my picks will be at game time, and i am sure that this sht will happen again many times. What happens if i bet a game at +183 again and for some reason, the line histories don't pick it up and pick it up at only +177.. what do i get?

NO fukkin way do i want to go through ths sht again.. ive had it.. this is just not worth it for me. Not worth the aggravation for me with the fighting everyday, and so on..

I know i will beat your ass, but i don't want to battle with you everday over 2 cents, for 7 months, just so I can make 2k.. meanwhile, i have already cost myself big for missing caps game cause i had to put in bet fast, then come to sbr and put in bet before 705 pm.


You called me a cheater for 2 days and then proved you wrong.. this is not worth it for me. I never liked contest or posted my picks ever for this reason. i need to focus on my own bets


I would go back in on my conditioins though..

1- NO more discrepancies.. Next time we have same discrepancy, I automatically win

2- We raise it to 5k to make it worth my time

3- If i get +183 again, but no line service has it at +176, i still get +183..


If you do all 3, i am in. if not, i am not wasting my time again with you.. I am so stressed out now, it's not funny... all because of this stupid 2k contest.


And if you dont want to do this, then i am willing to do a contest with lines up from 6 pm to 7 pm and we must put in our plays by 705 pm.. this would still be a handicapping contest, and it would come down to who is the better handicapper now, as we'd both have same advantage and most importantly, SAME LINES.. no more discrepencies now..

i will do this too... and this, i will do for only 2k if you want.. but not the other...

BALL IS IN YOUR COURT NOW..

[fiveteamer]

Nicky gets the best line, win or lose.

[onthewhat]

I don't think he'll agree to this Nicky. Just play with his rules and bury him

[jjgold]

Nicky I like those rules

Ok I vote for Nicky's rules they are fair

[MartinBlank]

This is great theater. Again, I am on neither side of this debate, I am just following it.

But

Nicky has the greatest line so far "Next time we have same discrepancy, I automatically win".

I really really really really want you guys to work this out and have this contest. It would keeep us entertained for the next 5 months.

[daggerkobe]

No, he won't agree to those rules.

Remember, he wants the rules to be vague and incomplete so he can bail whenever he wants.

[pavyracer]

Here is an idea morons:

You both open up accounts simultaneously at a specific online book for $2000. Therefore, you both get the same lines at the time you chose to place your bets. Each one can get screenshots of each others accounts and if a disagreement arises the judge will be the same for both since both bets are placed at the same book. Since you both plan to post 500 plays you can easily rollover any bonus offered by the book and make additional free plays that will benefit both of you. You also get to scrap all the stupid rules that both created the last couple days and do not seem to agree on how to enforce.

Regards,

pavyracer

[RogueJuror]

Nicky has the greatest line so far "Next time we have same discrepancy, I automatically win".

Yeah that was pretty comical. My buddy Nicky is always a prankster, infact this whole thing is a prank.

[Nicky Santoro]

i am not joking.. i am only saying this because i know LT's style.. i've seen it before.. he will find every excuse in the book to not credit me a line so he can profit from me, and i do NOT want to go through this sht 234 times in the next 7 months, which it will happen btw, if i dont make this rule... and this you can take to the bank..

[LT Profits]

1- NO more discrepancies.. Next time we have same discrepancy, I automatically win

2- We raise it to 5k to make it worth my time

3- If i get +183 again, but no line service has it at +176, i still get +183.

1 - That is the whole point of bringing in an arbitor to settle disputes.

2 - No, 2K, take it or leave it

3 - The fact that we now have THREE sources and your line only has to match one of them basically ensures this. Your +183 the other night would have been good per both VI and SBR Odds Archives, so there would have been no debate.

Your call now sir.

[LT Profits]

Also,

i don't want to battle with you everday over 2 cents, for 7 months, just so I can make 2k

There will be no quibbling with three possible line sources. Everybody here knows hat I am very fair and always go by the book in my contests.

[Nicky Santoro]

i'm not doing this all year and have all this aggravation and hard work and be called a cheater for 2k.... 5k and no discrepancies, OR i win... i need to focus on my work and make some money. i have bills to pay. this contest is already slowing me down.


Why not then what i suggested and many others too.. Lets have a guy copy and paste lines at 6 pm and at 705 pm, we must have all our picks in by then, or even by 1030 pm, i dont care..

This way, we are both on same page.. no more arguments.. If i have over 187 and line is 188 and you have over 191 and line is 192, we are both equal..

this way, no more, well, line service has it at +181..etc.. yeah, but this service had it at +182.. etc.. no more 3 hrs a night of arguing.. it's simple, and fast.. and still, better handicapper will win..

BALL IS NOW IN YOUR COURT.. there is no reason you should say no to this deal.. it will eliminate the arguments completely for life.. COMPLETELY...........

I WILL NOT ACCEPT THE OTHER OFFER, UNLESS IT'S FOR 5K AND I WIN ON DISCREPANCIES.. I DONT WANT TO FIGHT EVERYDAY FOR 7 MONTHS WITH YOU.. IT WAS A NIGHTMARE ON OUR FIRST DAY.. IMAGINE HOW IT WILL BE IN FEBRUARY.

[daggerkobe]

Everybody here knows hat I am very fair and always go by the book in my contests.

[durito]

Dagger:

Serious question, what's the highest level of education you attained?

[Nicky Santoro]

Everybody here knows hat I am very fair and always go by the book in my contests.

AFTER WHAT I SAW 2 NIGHTS AGO, I AGREE WITH THIS POST.. THE ONLY THING I DON'T AGREE TO THIS POST IS THAT I WOULD HAVE PUT IN 9 SMILEY ICONS, NOT 8.

[LT Profits]

But there will not be ANY aggrivation as the rules are written now. If you see something in the rules I have NOT covered, just let me kniow.

[LT Profits]

AFTER WHAT I SAW 2 NIGHTS AGO, I AGREE WITH THIS POST.. THE ONLY THING I DON'T AGREE TO THIS POST IS THAT I WOULD HAVE PUT IN 9 SMILEY ICONS, NOT 8.

You mean when I was trying to enforce the rules exactly as they were written at the time?

[LT Profits]

OK last chance. You have one hour to accept. If you don't accept by 2:00 ET, the contest is off. Again, if you see something in the rules you don't like or DON'T see something you want addressed, just let me know.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I really don't see how using 3 line services and an arbitrator doesn't make things fair. The whole "I win" nonsense out of Nicky shows the willingness of him to be rational. This thing has no chance.

[themajormt]

Nicky gets the best line, win or lose.

Were you under his desk on your knees while he was typing that?????? jesus...

[fiveteamer]

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[themajormt]

LT never called him a cheater... All he said was that it was NOT posted on SBR Odds... Which it wasnt at the time. The SOURCE for the lines was SBR so he was going off of that.

The 6-7pm rule isn't fair to LT because, if you read earlier posts, he sometimes bets in the morning and doesnt sit around all day compared to Nicky who says he bets around game time.

If this is the case, why dont you take an opening line at 10am and closing at 7pm and you get to choose what line you want? But there is ONLY 2 sets of lines...I dont believe this contest was about getting the best price at the last second, it was about who is the better capper in all sports over a period of time. 2 cents here and there over the course of 500 bets might equal a whole unit or two?

Put your money where your mouth is and just do the fukkin contest!!

[LT Profits]

LT never called him a cheater... All he said was that it was NOT posted on SBR Odds... Which it wasnt at the time. The SOURCE for the lines was SBR so he was going off of that.

The 6-7pm rule isn't fair to LT because, if you read earlier posts, he sometimes bets in the morning and doesnt sit around all day compared to Nicky who says he bets around game time.

If this is the case, why dont you take an opening line at 10am and closing at 7pm and you get to choose what line you want? But there is ONLY 2 sets of lines...I dont believe this contest was about getting the best price at the last second, it was about who is the better capper in all sports over a period of time. 2 cents here and there over the course of 500 bets might equal a whole unit or two?

Put your money where your mouth is and just do the fukkin contest!!

Well, one of the keys to better profits IS getting a good line, and I do want to make this contest as lifelike as possible. Thus, I think the line shopping aspect is critical.

[daggerkobe]

Dagger:

Serious question, what's the highest level of education you attained?

Enough to know when someone promises "I will no longer post here ever again"... and is back posting a month later, it makes that person a big, fat douchebag liar and anything that comes out of him from then on is a big, fat douchebag lie.

[themajormt]

I completely agree LT but only being able to put in wagers from 6-7pm is not realistic... so an opening and closing line is definitely more than fair. That way he is able to get this "best price" and you are able to get your "early price"

[durito]

Enough to know when someone promises "I will no longer post here ever again"... and is back posting a month later, it makes that person a big, fat douchebag liar and anything that comes out of him from then on is a big, fat douchebag lie.

10th grade it is.

[Nicky Santoro]

Enough to know when someone promises "I will no longer post here ever again"... and is back posting a month later, it makes that person a big, fat douchebag liar and anything that comes out of him from then on is a big, fat douchebag lie.

dags,

did he actually do it again cause he did it 4 months ago after he lost a bet to DODIF the poster and wasn't allowed to post, and then came back..

shame on you, durito..

[Panic]

Do the 2k option with painted lines. Only post the lines from 3:00-5:00. That way it is not advantageous to either player. Straight capping. This will tell who is best. It will not let LT grab early or let Nicky grab late. This is fair to both parties and will be no disputes. Its right down the middle.

[Nicky Santoro]

I completely agree LT but only being able to put in wagers from 6-7pm is not realistic... so an opening and closing line is definitely more than fair. That way he is able to get this "best price" and you are able to get your "early price"

I will do this..
opening vs closing lines i'll do.. fair for all.. no excuse here LT..

no way i am going to go through that shit again like before battling you and fighting you for 2 cents and being called a cheater.. for 7 fukkin months.. i want this to be simple and no discrepancies.. and we'll even do it for 2k if you want, since i know now there won't be any problems anymore and you trying to pull a fast one..

You have no excuse here LT. .now you dont have to go over 188.5 when line is 189.. you can get it at over 184 now. so lets do it..

[fiveteamer]

There is a group of condescending jackasses at sbr who seem to insult people here, hate posting here, but yet avg 15 posts a day.

Go figure.

They claim to hate the forum and the posters who populate it(EXCEPT FOR GANCHROW AND JUSTIN OF COURSE), but I really think they hate themselves.

[daggerkobe]

LT never called him a cheater... All he said was that it was NOT posted on SBR Odds... Which it wasnt at the time. The SOURCE for the lines was SBR so he was going off of that.

The 6-7pm rule isn't fair to LT because, if you read earlier posts, he sometimes bets in the morning and doesnt sit around all day compared to Nicky who says he bets around game time.

If this is the case, why dont you take an opening line at 10am and closing at 7pm and you get to choose what line you want? But there is ONLY 2 sets of lines...I dont believe this contest was about getting the best price at the last second, it was about who is the better capper in all sports over a period of time. 2 cents here and there over the course of 500 bets might equal a whole unit or two?

Put your money where your mouth is and just do the fukkin contest!!

Um, actually he did pretty much accuse him of being a liar and a thief.

When evidence(s) surfaced that made him look like an over-reacting, petty loser, LT refused to accept them. Instead he took great liberties in misinterpreting his own vague & incomplete rule as he pleased, to try and make Nicky look like the bad guy.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I absolutely hate the idea of painted lines. What is wrong with 3 line services and an arbitrator?

[LT Profits]

I completely agree LT but only being able to put in wagers from 6-7pm is not realistic... so an opening and closing line is definitely more than fair. That way he is able to get this "best price" and you are able to get your "early price"

But as rules are written now, we can post plays from the moment the opening lines come out until scheduled gametime. That is as realistic as can be.

[daggerkobe]

dags,

did he actually do it again cause he did it 4 months ago after he lost a bet to DODIF the poster and wasn't allowed to post, and then came back..

shame on you, durito..

Oh snap, you're right. I had forgotten all about that.

Once a douchebag liar, always a douchebag liar.

[fiveteamer]

dagger, D.L.'s for short.