Celtics +4 @ Bulls

**goldengreek** · 04-07-11, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by brahmabull117

i'm a huge bulls fan but rose has become massively overrated in nba fan forums

he's a fantastic player and a top 5 talent, but the best in league?? That's crazy talk

his midrange and long range shot is still very streaky. He needs to make both more consistent to be the best player in the league

he is easily one of the top 6 players in the nba

lebron
howard
kobe
durant
rose
wade

**rsnnh12** · 04-07-11, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by goldengreek

RONDO = ROSE

IS LIKE SAYING

KURT THOMAS = DWIGHT HOWARD

In terms of a Celtics-Bulls series, yes, Rondo=Rose. Both are the most important players on their teams. Both offenses run through them, albeit in different ways. Rondo and Rose have been pretty damn even in their 3 matchups this year... Rondo had 1 amazing game and 2 average, Rose had 1 amazing game and 2 average

**goldengreek** · 04-07-11, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

Rondo is a "true" PG, where Rose is a PG/SG hybrid. Rondo is better at running an offense through other people but being the field general, Rose is better at using his offensive abilities to make the D adjust for him, which opens up teammates. Rondo's long range shot sucks, but his mid-range has gotten significantly better. Rose is a better shooter and better with contact, Rondo has the edge in defense.

Personally, I think a team with Rondo at PG and Rose at SG would be entertaining as hell to watch.

COMMON GUY !!!

ONLY HIS ASSISTS ARE IMPRESSIVE... AND WHOSE WOULDNT BE WITH KG , PIERCE , AND RAY ALLEN ?

I WOULD HONESTLY AND EASILY TAKE THESE PG's BEFORE RONDO

ROSE
WESTBROOK
CP3
DERRON WILLIAMS

AND IF IT WASNT FOR THEIR AGE:

TONY PARKER
NASH

1) RONDO CANT SHOOT FROM 3 POINT LAND

2) RONDO HAS NO MID RANGE JUMPER

3) RONDO HITS 50 % FROM THE FREE THROW LINE...FROM A PG !!!!!???? THIS ISNT SHAQ WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

HE IS GOOD BUT NOT GREAT... BUT TALK ABOUT OVER RATED

**rsnnh12** · 04-07-11, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by goldengreek

he is easily one of the top 6 players in the nba

lebron
howard
kobe
durant
rose
wade

I agree with this. I'll say top 7, and throw Carmelo out there, but it really depends on what your team needs in deciding the order of the last few of the top 7. LBJ, Dwight, and Durant are in a league of their own IMO

**goldengreek** · 04-07-11, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

In terms of a Celtics-Bulls series, yes, Rondo=Rose. Both are the most important players on their teams. Both offenses run through them, albeit in different ways. Rondo and Rose have been pretty damn even in their 3 matchups this year... Rondo had 1 amazing game and 2 average, Rose had 1 amazing game and 2 average

OK.... IM DONE

PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE KID

YOU ARE SOUNDING STUPID

SO YOU ARE TELLING ME IF YOU WERE DRAFTING A TEAM FROM SCRATCH AND COULD PICK ANY NBA PLAYERS.. IT WOULD BE HARD FOR YOU TO CHOOSE BETWEEN DROSE AND RONDO ??

TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE TOP 5-6 PLAYERS IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE... AND A GUY WHO IS IN THE TOP 40 ? 50 ?

COMMON !!!

**NardVa** · 04-07-11, 01:09 AM

Celtics flex their muscles and show the Bulls the championship trail goes through the Celtics.

**hoop guru** · 04-07-11, 01:10 AM

Celtics +2 1st half

**rsnnh12** · 04-07-11, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by goldengreek

COMMON GUY !!!

ONLY HIS ASSISTS ARE IMPRESSIVE... AND WHOSE WOULDNT BE WITH KG , PIERCE , AND RAY ALLEN ?

I WOULD HONESTLY AND EASILY TAKE THESE PG's BEFORE RONDO

ROSE
WESTBROOK
CP3
DERRON WILLIAMS

AND IF IT WASNT FOR THEIR AGE:

TONY PARKER
NASH

1) RONDO CANT SHOOT FROM 3 POINT LAND

2) RONDO HAS NO MID RANGE JUMPER

3) RONDO HITS 50 % FROM THE FREE THROW LINE...FROM A PG !!!!!???? THIS ISNT SHAQ WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

HE IS GOOD BUT NOT GREAT... BUT TALK ABOUT OVER RATED

As a Cs fan, there isn't a single PG I would take over Rondo for this team. 100% serious. They don't need a PG who can shoot 3s... they have Ray (the GOAT), Pierce, Delonte, and Green to do that. Rondo actually has a decent pull-up jumper now... he's worked on it a lot this season. And he averages less than 2 FTAs per game, so I'm not worried. In the last possession of a game, he's inbounding to Ray, Pierce, and KG (plus either Green or Delonte), all of whom are amazing FT shooters.

Rondo is an absolute perfect fit for the Cs, and he truly is the leader on the floor. The Big 3 listen to him, not the other way around. He runs them. Plus, his defense is only rivaled by CP3 as far as PGs go

**rsnnh12** · 04-07-11, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by goldengreek

OK.... IM DONE

PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE KID

YOU ARE SOUNDING STUPID

SO YOU ARE TELLING ME IF YOU WERE DRAFTING A TEAM FROM SCRATCH AND COULD PICK ANY NBA PLAYERS.. IT WOULD BE HARD FOR YOU TO CHOOSE BETWEEN DROSE AND RONDO ??

TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE TOP 5-6 PLAYERS IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE... AND A GUY WHO IS IN THE TOP 40 ? 50 ?

COMMON !!!

Reading comprehension, bro... learn it, use it, love it

I said "in terms of a Celtics-Bulls series", not "if I was free to start a franchise with anyone, Rondo=Rose"

Edit- and Rondo is top 25 AT WORST. I would have him around 15th or so

**brahmabull117** · 04-07-11, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

As a Cs fan, there isn't a single PG I would take over Rondo for this team. 100% serious. They don't need a PG who can shoot 3s... they have Ray (the GOAT), Pierce, Delonte, and Green to do that. Rondo actually has a decent pull-up jumper now... he's worked on it a lot this season. And he averages less than 2 FTAs per game, so I'm not worried. In the last possession of a game, he's inbounding to Ray, Pierce, and KG (plus either Green or Delonte), all of whom are amazing FT shooters.

Rondo is an absolute perfect fit for the Cs, and he truly is the leader on the floor. The Big 3 listen to him, not the other way around. He runs them. Plus, his defense is only rivaled by CP3 as far as PGs go

Rondo isn't really as good of a defender as you think

he gets a lot of steals but one on one?? there's a lot of guards in the league who can dominate him. He benefits from terrific team defenders who are always willing to help cut off penetration

really same thing as D Rose

both D Rose and Rondo have about the same defensive efficiency rating (103 vs 102). Both are pretty good defenders, but I don't consider them shutdown defenders like say Bruce Bowen was by any stretch

**twelvejewelz** · 04-07-11, 01:18 AM

take bulls tomorrow then take the wizards on friday when celtics will be on a b2b. good luck

**rupesh1214** · 04-07-11, 01:21 AM

Rondo is nothin compared to Rose.

**rsnnh12** · 04-07-11, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by brahmabull117

Rondo isn't really as good of a defender as you think

he gets a lot of steals but one on one?? there's a lot of guards in the league who can dominate him. He benefits from terrific team defenders who are always willing to help cut off penetration

really same thing as D Rose

both D Rose and Rondo have about the same defensive efficiency rating (103 vs 102). Both are pretty good defenders, but I don't consider them shutdown defenders like Bruce Bowen was by any stretch

Rondo absolutely is an elite defender. From watching every single Cs game this year, I am confident in saying that. Obviously the team D aspect helps, but even 1 on 1, Rondo is elite. Hell, he even covered Lebron incredibly well, frustrated the shit out of him, and took him completely out of his game (6'1", 190 vs 6'8", 250?).

He does take a few more chances, knowing he has the great team D behind him, but he'll tone that down in the playoffs like usual

**goldengreek** · 04-07-11, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

Reading comprehension, bro... learn it, use it, love it

I said "in terms of a Celtics-Bulls series", not "if I was free to start a franchise with anyone, Rondo=Rose"

Edit- and Rondo is top 25 AT WORST. I would have him around 15th or so

TOP 25 ????

NO WAY KID

Lebron
Howard
Kobe
Durant
Rose
Wade
Carmelo
Amare
Monte Ellis
Kevin Love
Kevin Martin
Dirk
Blake Griffin
Westbrook
CP3
D Will
Zach Randolph
Gasol
Granger
Al Jefferson
Pierce
Garnett
Bosh
Joe Johnson
Manu
Deng
Lee
Horford
ODOM
Aldridge
Roy
Gay
Gerald Wallace
Devin Harris
Iguodala
Stephen Curry
NASH ( THE AGE THING THO )

THATS ABOUT 40 GUYS RIGHT THERE I COULD NAME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD

IF I COULD PICK ONLY ONE GUY TO ADD ON MY TEAM FROM ALL OF THE ONES LISTED ABOVE ... I WOULD PICK ALL OF THOSE B4 RONDO

**GTS925** · 04-07-11, 01:34 AM

Devin Harris?

**rsnnh12** · 04-07-11, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by goldengreek

TOP 25 ????

NO WAY KID

Lebron
Howard
Kobe
Durant
Rose
Wade
Carmelo
Amare
Monte Ellis- no defense
Kevin Love- empty stats on a bad team, avg at best
Kevin Martin- scorer, plays no D, folds under pressure
Dirk
Blake Griffin
Westbrook- he's a chucker, a weaker DRose
CP3
D Will- meh, overrated IMO
Zach Randolph- lol
Gasol
Granger- ehhh maybe
Al Jefferson- lol
Pierce
Garnett
Bosh- we'll see how he handles playoff pressure
Joe Johnson- you want a guy who only cares about his stats, and sucks now?
Manu- only if you like floppers
Deng- maybe in a few yrs
Lee- lol
Horford
ODOM- overrated, aggressive bench player?
Aldridge
Roy- never healthy
Gay- lol
Gerald Wallace- maybe
Devin Harris- lol
Iguodala- lolno
Stephen Curry- shooter, plays no D
NASH ( THEY AGE THING THO )- 1 of the worst defensive PGs, if not the worst

IF I COULD PICK ONE GUY TO ADD ON MY TEAM ... I WOULD PICK ALL OF THOSE B4 RONDO
If I

Only ones I would take over Rondo are the ones without comments. Pierce and Garnett rely so much on Rondo, that I don't know if I would take either over him at this point in their careers. Watch Rondo in the playoffs... he turns it up even more than what he's doing now

**goldengreek** · 04-07-11, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by gts925

devin harris?

4 less assists per game and 10 points more per game

**Avenger** · 04-07-11, 01:40 AM

Yeah, no Bynum or Perkins either. GG must not be a D guy?

Anyways,

this is still going on. Don't think you'll ever convince him GG, it's like talking to Red Sox fans, ya know. It's more than a team, it's a way of life.

**THEGREAT30** · 04-07-11, 01:41 AM

do think Bulls are a fraud but that will not be evident until the Hawks who are horrible in many aspects beat them in the 2nd round

**rsnnh12** · 04-07-11, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by Avenger

Yeah, no Bynum or Perkins either. GG must not be a D guy?

Anyways,

this is still going on. Don't think you'll ever convince him GG, it's like talking to Red Sox fans, ya know. It's more than a team, it's a way of life.

No, its just a team. Its just amusing that people think Rondo's so overrated, and yet Bulls fans jump all over anyone who thinks Rose is a bit overrated or not the MVP. Just defending their team, that's all. Plus, its all for kicks anyway

**bureK** · 04-07-11, 05:20 AM

BOSH HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

**t-wizzle** · 04-07-11, 04:27 PM

Alright enough talk about rondo... What is everyone's play on this game?

**chantrain** · 04-07-11, 04:30 PM

Bulls ML

**chantrain** · 04-07-11, 08:18 PM

How's Rondo doing guarding D.Rose.

Still think he can guard him 1 on 1, rsnnh?

**Roxxyfish** · 04-07-11, 09:15 PM

**jjgold** · 04-07-11, 09:38 PM

Boston is done

**goldengreek** · 04-07-11, 10:16 PM

Rondo = Rose

**chantrain** · 04-07-11, 10:26 PM

I love coming back to these threads after the game and read the stupid comments from idiot NBA fans.

30 points 8 assists, HOW YA LIKE HIM NAOW?

Originally posted by THEGREAT30

do think Bulls are a fraud but that will not be evident until the Hawks who are horrible in many aspects beat them in the 2nd round

**twelvejewelz** · 04-07-11, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by twelvejewelz

take bulls tomorrow then take the wizards on friday when celtics will be on a b2b. good luck

remember i said this. 1 down , wizards + points and alittle on ml tomorrow

**spankie** · 04-07-11, 10:30 PM

the celtics fade wins again.

WINNING.

WINNING.