US Presidental Election at SBR, currently: Romney 46.7% Obama 53.3%

[Fishhead]

obama now -359 at pinny .

WOW!!

[brooks85]

Come on brooks, he didn't give an ultimatum in that video.

He said if he didn't "get it done" in 3 years it would be a one term Presidency for him - as he expected people would vote him out. If people took their emotions out of political discussions then maybe the conversation could be had as to why when you and other hard core Republicans believe he's accomplished jack is he still leading the polls and is going to win?

Has he accomplished more than you are willing to give him credit for? Are there things he couldn't accomplish because he was getting cokblocked every which way in the process? Or even more frightening for Republicans: Are there people out there that accept that maybe he didn't get done everything he had hoped and promised to yet but they would rather have him for another 4 years than ever entertain the thought of putting Romney in the White House? If the latter is the case then loyal party supporters should be asking why the f Romney was nominated in the first place.

lol.. you are a true liberal. I bet you were very satisfied with that response.

What did he get in done? What did he accomplish Shari? I see a lot of typical liberal BS without a single piece of factual information.


and actually yes, that was an ultimatum. Get a dictionary.

[shari91]

lol.. you are a true liberal. I bet you were very satisfied with that response.

What did he get in done? What did he accomplish Shari? I see a lot of typical liberal BS without a single piece of factual information.


and actually yes, that was an ultimatum. Get a dictionary.

No brooks, I'm not a Liberal and I don't need a dictionary. However if you feel I would be very satisfied with that response in my Liberalfied world, how do you possibly think it would help the point you were trying to make?

However based on that clip you posted to me it seems you need one so here you go.

ul·ti·ma·tum [uhl-tuh-mey-tuh m, -mah-]
noun, plural ul·ti·ma·tums, ul·ti·ma·ta [-tuh]
1.
a final, uncompromising demand or set of terms issued by a party to a dispute, the rejection of which may lead to a severance of relations or to the use of force.
2.
a final proposal or statement of conditions.


He wasn't making an ultimatum. He didn't say: "If I don't have xxxx done or if you don't do this for me by xxxx then I won't run". He said "If I don't have xxxx done by xxxx then I won't be voted back in". Prediction does not = ultimatum. I'll provide a dictionary reference for the word prediction if you need it as well. Just let me know.

Guy underestimated how badly the Repubs would fukk up by nominating Romney. At the time he did this interview - and even today - there are thousands of candidates out there who would've had a better shot.

Again: Look to your own party as to why not only IS he going to be voted back in but they fronted a candidate that even some party members can't fully support with a straight face.

[SBR_John]

lol.. you are a true liberal. I bet you were very satisfied with that response.

What did he get in done? What did he accomplish Shari? I see a lot of typical liberal BS without a single piece of factual information.


and actually yes, that was an ultimatum. Get a dictionary.

The liberals concede Obama is terrible and has not done anything except plunder us into debt. Their argument is so what if he is incompetent on economic issues, he's black, he believes in unGodly big government and so do they.

You see them say its all wrapped up and now there is a report the Democratic Party is $100 million in debt. LOL, par for the course.

[King Mayan]

If you even think the question you asked is relevant you are an idiot. I understand it's cute and funny because mormons are fukn ridiculous but alas, still completely irrelevant.

Brooks thinks he smart because he posts these "omg I can't believe you're this dumb" answers.. ..


Now run along and go to the dentist with your union backed healthcare.

[shari91]

The liberals concede Obama is terrible and has not done anything except plunder us into debt. Their argument is so what if he is incompetent on economic issues, he's black, he believes in unGodly big government and so do they.

You see them say its all wrapped up and now there is a report the Democratic Party is $100 million in debt. LOL, par for the course.

Romney meddling in someone's right to choose when it comes to reproduction or whom they marry isn't being a "big government"? Then tell your boy to gtfo and mind his own business!!

George Washington, that little guy that I'm starting to think many have forgotten about, introduced the Tariff Act of 1789 aka the Hamilton Tax.

That tax set the foundation for how the US economy operates today. It's because of those principles that little kids aren't allowed to work any more and food needs to be produced safely in the US amongst hundreds of other things - standards that have been adopted world wide. Take out that "big government" slur that it seems some like to latch onto without realising heads of the Republican Party also advocated for and supported these policies and people might realise that most people want the same things at the end of the day.

[No coincidences]

The liberals concede Obama is terrible and has not done anything except plunder us into debt. Their argument is so what if he is incompetent on economic issues, he's black, he believes in unGodly big government and so do they.

You see them say its all wrapped up and now there is a report the Democratic Party is $100 million in debt. LOL, par for the course.

I've lost a lot of respect for you throughout this political process John.

Not that you care, but your partisan hackery is borderline startling. Figured you'd be much more P.C. or keep a much lower profile given your position at SBR, but I guess not.

And again, this is coming from a registered Independent who has pulled the lever for more red than blue in my voting life.

[No coincidences]

Guy underestimated how badly the Repubs would fukk up by nominating Romney. At the time he did this interview - and even today - there are thousands of candidates out there who would've had a better shot.

Again: Look to your own party as to why not only IS he going to be voted back in but they fronted a candidate that even some party members can't fully support with a straight face.

shari fvcking nailed it.

Guess that makes you a "libtard" shari.

[KingJD31]

fuk you talking about, Romney gives woman the option to get an abortion for rape, or if she's to poor to support the kid, you're infringing on Christians who dont believe in that shit but have to pay for it anyway. How about this don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid take some responsibility, or how about buy your own birth control, 6 dollars a fuking month we are fighting about. Only libtards

Romney meddling in someone's right to choose when it comes to reproduction or whom they marry isn't being a "big government"? Then tell your boy to gtfo and mind his own business!!

George Washington, that little guy that I'm starting to think many have forgotten about, introduced the Tariff Act of 1789 aka the Hamilton Tax.

That tax set the foundation for how the US economy operates today. It's because of those principles that little kids aren't allowed to work any more and food needs to be produced safely in the US amongst hundreds of other things - standards that have been adopted world wide. Take out that "big government" slur that it seems some like to latch onto without realising heads of the Republican Party also advocated for and supported these policies and people might realise that most people want the same things at the end of the day.

[shari91]

fuk you talking about, Romney gives woman the option to get an abortion for rape, or if she's to poor to support the kid, you're infringing on Christians who dont believe in that shit but have to pay for it anyway. How about this don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid take some responsibility, or how about buy your own birth control, 6 dollars a fuking month we are fighting about. Only libtards

Beautiful that YOU think Romney supports a woman who is too poor to afford an abortion. But big hint you bloody numpty: HE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT.

So how about you take that $6 and although I'd like to tell you to shove it up your arse, you invest in a bit of a brain and go research what your guy actually is yapping stands for. It'll be hard as it's constantly changing but if you put in a bit of effort... meh no. I agree it's useless.

Bloody hell people come the fukk on.

[KingJD31]

I guarantee you have not voted more red then blue, because if you did you would wonder how a guy who grew up with frank Marshall davisand is good friends with bill Ayers is president of thr u s not to mention Jeremiah wright

I've lost a lot of respect for you throughout this political process John.

Not that you care, but your partisan hackery is borderline startling. Figured you'd be much more P.C. or keep a much lower profile given your position at SBR, but I guess not.

And again, this is coming from a registered Independent who has pulled the lever for more red than blue in my voting life.

[No coincidences]

I guarantee you have not voted more red then blue, because if you did you would wonder how a guy who grew up with frank Marshall davisand is good friends with bill Ayers is president of thr u s not to mention Jeremiah wright

Serious question: are you allowed to think on your own according to Faux News by-laws?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: that channel has completely devastated the Republican party that I once knew. It's sad to see what it has become, and the bullshit the drones who still back it spew. Just a pathetic, desperate shell of its former self.

The fact that you assumed I have or will vote for Obama simply based on my disgust for the direction -- or lack thereof -- of the Republican party is a perfect epitaph.

[PaperTrail07]

i know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who brother works for the govt....its all a hustle....ive seen the CIA give out free $ to the poor as well.....ALL 1$ coins.....DONT DRINK THE WATER

[KingJD31]

It has nothing to do with fox that is the truth he had relationships with all of them

Serious question: are you allowed to think on your own according to Faux News by-laws?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: that channel has completely devastated the Republican party that I once knew. It's sad to see what it has become, and the bullshit the drones who still back it spew. Just a pathetic, desperate shell of its former self.

The fact that you assumed I have or will vote for Obama simply based on my disgust for the direction -- or lack thereof -- of the Republican party is a perfect epitaph.

[CallMeChip]

fuk you talking about, Romney gives woman the option to get an abortion for rape, or if she's to poor to support the kid, you're infringing on Christians who dont believe in that shit but have to pay for it anyway. How about this don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid take some responsibility, or how about buy your own birth control, 6 dollars a fuking month we are fighting about. Only libtards

Romney never supported abortion in terms of rape or due to financial hardship. He ran on Ryan's plan which was to eliminate abortion altogether. Romney said during debate that he was for abortion in terms of rape only after about 6 months of campaigning the other way because he saw how badly he was getting destroyed in the female vote. You don't know anything about Romney and neither does anyone else because he refuses to stick to anything he proposes. And infringing on Christians who don't believe in that shit? Who gives a crap? Government is not influenced by religion, nor should it ever be, that's a fundamental principle of the separation of church and state. Christians don't believe in war either, but they have to pay for that shit too.

Ever have sex with someone before marriage? Yeah then you took a stab at getting someone pregnant without intent, therefore any argument about "don't get pregnant, take some responsibility" is completely futile and worthless by logical reasoning.

Romney and Ryan are focused wayyyyy too much on their respective religions and those values impacting government decisions. This isn't 1846, we're not looking to return to puritanical values. FFS, Romney is Mormon. It's THE biggest horseshit made-up religion the world has ever seen with zero roots in established doctrine. They were literally commanded by a snake oil salesman, it's so so sad.

I have the utmost respect for faith, which is wonderful and gives people hope and inspiration, but organized religion is based on the theory of division and supremacy. Believing in a God or THE God or whatever you want to call it, was never started by any religion, it was an instinctual belief among certain human beings in response to questions of self-worth. Believing in a Roman Catholic God, Protestant God, Islamic God, etc... was developed by opportunistic men in order to separate themselves from other sects and usurp power.

[ACoochy]

Government is not influenced by religion, nor should it ever be, that's a fundamental principle of the separation of church and state.

Um, god bless america If that isnt a signal that government is not influenced by religion then i dont know what is...

In more socially advanced countries you would never hear that...

[KingJD31]

Religion should stay out of politcs as long as irresponsible and self entitled stop abusing tax money

Romney never supported abortion in terms of rape or due to financial hardship. He ran on Ryan's plan which was to eliminate abortion altogether. Romney said during debate that he was for abortion in terms of rape only after about 6 months of campaigning the other way because he saw how badly he was getting destroyed in the female vote. You don't know anything about Romney and neither does anyone else because he refuses to stick to anything he proposes. And infringing on Christians who don't believe in that shit? Who gives a crap? Government is not influenced by religion, nor should it ever be, that's a fundamental principle of the separation of church and state. Christians don't believe in war either, but they have to pay for that shit too.

Ever have sex with someone before marriage? Yeah then you took a stab at getting someone pregnant without intent, therefore any argument about "don't get pregnant, take some responsibility" is completely futile and worthless by logical reasoning.

Romney and Ryan are focused wayyyyy too much on their respective religions and those values impacting government decisions. This isn't 1846, we're not looking to return to puritanical values. FFS, Romney is Mormon. It's THE biggest horseshit made-up religion the world has ever seen with zero roots in established doctrine. They were literally commanded by a snake oil salesman, it's so so sad.

I have the utmost respect for faith, which is wonderful and gives people hope and inspiration, but organized religion is based on the theory of division and supremacy. Believing in a God or THE God or whatever you want to call it, was never started by any religion, it was an instinctual belief among certain human beings in response to questions of self-worth. Believing in a Roman Catholic God, Protestant God, Islamic God, etc... was developed by opportunistic men in order to separate themselves from other sects and usurp power.

[TC Woods]

Beautiful that YOU think Romney supports a woman who is too poor to afford an abortion. But big hint you bloody numpty: HE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT.

So how about you take that $6 and although I'd like to tell you to shove it up your arse, you invest in a bit of a brain and go research what your guy actually is yapping stands for. It'll be hard as it's constantly changing but if you put in a bit of effort... meh no. I agree it's useless.

Bloody hell people come the fukk on.

I think she fvcking nailed it AGIAN!!!!! to you!

[CallMeChip]

Um, god bless america If that isnt a signal that government is not influenced by religion then i dont know what is...

In more socially advanced countries you would never hear that...

Yeah, they've done massive research on candidates who've wanted to do away with the title of In God We Trust, which was seen to be a motto developed out of the Civil War originally to declare God on the side of the Union, then revised during the Cold War to promote the "right" side of the conflict against opposing Soviet sects. Supposedly, trying to remove it now would do massive damage to any candidate's popularity since so many citizens of the US (73%) identify as Christian denomination. It's a shame they did away with E pluribus unum as the de facto motto just so that they could use God against their enemies in an effort to rally morale, hence my point about religion's divisive nature. If Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Franklin, etc.. and the original forefathers were around, they would abhor such a phrase on official government currency as it was the exact opposite of what they intended for the country and governing policy, and many of them were very religious in their own personal lives.

[CallMeChip]

Religion should stay out of politics as long as irresponsible and self entitled stop abusing tax money

The statement should read "Religion should stay out of politics." Period. Abusing tax money has nothing to do with it, that's a government and economic issue. The two never coincide in any way.

[KingJD31]

You're kidding right? You honestly take offense to that? Small minds think alike, countries going broke u.s dollars about to collapse lets talk about god and abortion though

Um, god bless america If that isnt a signal that government is not influenced by religion then i dont know what is...

In more socially advanced countries you would never hear that...

[TC Woods]

countries going broke u.s dollars about to collapse

You can thank your repub loser bruddas for that....

[CallMeChip]

You're kidding right? You honestly take offense to that? Small minds think alike, countries going broke u.s dollars about to collapse lets talk about god and abortion though

You were just discussing it...

fuk you talking about, Romney gives woman the option to get an abortion for rape, or if she's to poor to support the kid, you're infringing on Christians who dont believe in that shit but have to pay for it anyway. How about this don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid take some responsibility, or how about buy your own birth control, 6 dollars a fuking month we are fighting about. Only libtards

[DwightShrute]

You can thank your repub loser bruddas for that....

ya right. Even you don't believe it. But I suppose you hope some guy just old enough to vote does because he likes your avatar.

[TC Woods]

ya right. Even you don't believe it. But I suppose you hope some guy just old enough to vote does because he likes your avatar.

I do believe it. Most don't remember how your repub (Bush) fvcked this country.... you can keep blaming obama but, you know who's at fault

[DwightShrute]

I do believe it. Most don't remember how your repub (Bush) fvcked this country.... you can keep blaming obama but, you know who's at fault

TC, just because Bush over spent doesn't make it right that your guy did. Obama took over a 10 trillion debt and now its over 16 trillion. Those are the facts.

Nice avatar though

[TC Woods]

TC, just because Bush over spent doesn't make it right that your guy did. Obama took over a 10 trillion debt and now its over 16 trillion. Those are the facts.

Nice avatar though

Overspent???? You are a dumb f\*\*k.... who got us in to that Iraq bullchit?????

Get a clue

[DwightShrute]

Overspent???? You are a dumb f\*\*k.... who got us in to that Iraq bullchit?????

Get a clue

me get a clue? 6 trillion Obama spent on what exactly? And I am a dumb fukk? LOL. How clueless can someone be?

[CallMeChip]

TC, just because Bush over spent doesn't make it right that your guy did. Obama took over a 10 trillion debt and now its over 16 trillion. Those are the facts.

Nice avatar though

True, 10 to 16 trillion. Shall we dissect where most of it went and why? It really does not look good for George Bush in that respect... Not to mention the myriad of things George Bush is responsible for that caused Obama to force a stimulus. No matter how much Obama may have spent, he will never in the history of this country, go down as a worse president than George Bush. An unconstitutional war for starters... (unnecessary as well for that matter)

[DwightShrute]

True, 10 to 16 trillion. Shall we dissect where most of it went and why? It really does not look good for George Bush in that respect... Not to mention the myriad of things George Bush is responsible for that caused Obama to force a stimulus. No matter how much Obama may have spent, he will never in the history of this country, go down as a worse president than George Bush. An unconstitutional war for starters... (unnecessary as well for that matter)

he already is worse than Bush. Much worse.

[CallMeChip]

he already is worse than Bush. Much worse.

That's actually a literal impossibility. Obama was not responsible in any way, shape or form for the sub prime mortgage crisis and securities bubble which WAS responsible for the majority (about 72%) of the increase of the deficit for which you blame him. I know this for FACT, because he hadn't assumed office yet when the crisis speculation collapsed the markets, therefore it was a literally impossibility for him to have been involved in said crisis. Therefore by your rationale, the person who overspent to restore the budget is in no logical comparison as guilty as the one who created the collapse and need for such spending.

Buried.

[TC Woods]

he already is worse than Bush. Much worse.

Let us know when you need some more kool aid....

[TC Woods]

That's actually a literal impossibility. Obama was not responsible in any way, shape or form for the sub prime mortgage crisis and securities bubble which WAS responsible for the majority (about 72%) of the increase of the deficit for which you blame him. I know this for FACT, because he hadn't assumed office yet when the crisis speculation collapsed the markets, therefore it was a literally impossibility for him to have been involved in said crisis. Therefore by your rationale, the person who overspent to restore the budget is in no logical comparison as guilty as the one who created the collapse and need for such spending.

Buried.

Worse than buried. I'm done responding to these clueless fvcks.... blame the black guy, he must be the reason this country is so fvcked up....

it amazes me how dumb some are....

[DwightShrute]

That's actually a literal impossibility. Obama was not responsible in any way, shape or form for the sub prime mortgage crisis and securities bubble which WAS responsible for the majority (about 72%) of the increase of the deficit for which you blame him. I know this for FACT, because he hadn't assumed office yet when the crisis speculation collapsed the markets, therefore it was a literally impossibility for him to have been involved in said crisis. Therefore by your rationale, the person who overspent to restore the budget is in no logical comparison as guilty as the one who created the collapse and need for such spending.

Buried.

Buried? LOL. not even close unless you are referring to yourself

Bush Called For Reform of Fannie/Freddie 34 Times Since 2001

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/bush-called-for-reform-of-fanniefreddie-34-times-since-2001/blog-16522/

I prefer facts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4 ya Barrack wasn't Prez yet but facts show he benefited.

[DwightShrute]

Worse than buried. I'm done responding to these clueless fvcks.... blame the black guy, he must be the reason this country is so fvcked up....

it amazes me how dumb some are....

ya there ya go pal. When you can't debate like a man, you resort to ad hominem and racism. Typical moron liberal.