do you guys understand how awful sf is. they will allow at least 30 pts
at least
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daggerkobe
SBR Posting Legend
03-25-08
10744
#38
Would anyone even bet this game if it weren't on MNF?
Who is starting at QB for the 9ers anyways?
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mr. leisure
SBR Posting Legend
01-29-08
17507
#39
Originally posted by daggerkobe
Would anyone even bet this game if it weren't on MNF?
Who is starting at QB for the 9ers anyways?
Shaun Hill at qb for the niners
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CaneDawg
SBR Hall of Famer
08-25-08
6256
#40
Originally posted by ryanXL977
do you guys understand how awful sf is. they will allow at least 30 pts
at least
anyone seen the arizona team total
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mr. leisure
SBR Posting Legend
01-29-08
17507
#41
Originally posted by CaneDawg
anyone seen the arizona team total
28.5 at 5-dimes
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#42
Small lean on the over
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SlickFazzer
SBR Posting Legend
05-22-08
20209
#43
Over for some lunch money.
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nick2060
SBR MVP
10-28-08
1051
#44
thing is, shaun hill is described as a game manager, which worries me, itd be a lot nicer is jt o'smelling salts was in there to throw 2 picks and get sacked and fumble once ya know, short fields and all that good stuff
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moneyplays
SBR Wise Guy
08-31-07
788
#45
San Francisco hasn’t reached their potential as a better than average team because of their -10 turnover margin. With O’Sullivan less likely to turn the ball over from the bench I expect the 49ers to become more competitive.
Also, even shitty teams come to play Monday night. I think AZ should definitely roll but I'm not totally convinced. These two teams usually play a close game when facing each other.
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mmike032
SBR Hall of Famer
09-11-08
8905
#46
49ers will win the game SU because its the last leg left on a 6 team teaser I have and I need Arizona -2.
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poetwarrior41
SBR Wise Guy
06-20-08
963
#47
Im on the 49ers, i like them in this spot coming off of the bye week. For some reason that i cant figure out, im really looking forward to watching this game tonight.
Ariz 30
49ers 24
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MJFtheGenius
SBR Hall of Famer
05-31-07
7257
#48
Arizona is 0-11 ATS mark on the line as a .500 or greater team at home against a division opponent.
Arizona is also 0-8 ATS mark as favorites of 7 or more points over the last 15 years
Frisco’s 7-0 ATS log with division revenge when playing off back-to-back losses
but how come I still can't see sf covering??
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CaneDawg
SBR Hall of Famer
08-25-08
6256
#49
Originally posted by mmike032
49ers will win the game SU because its the last leg left on a 6 team teaser I have and I need Arizona -2.
nah...i got two teasers home with az-2.5
I've been hot lately we will cash these biatches
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MastaB
SBR MVP
11-08-08
2604
#50
Originally posted by nick2060
ok lets look at how san francisco can stay in this game. Vernon davis might be playing a bit more inspired and with a team ethic, they got isaac bruce and bryant johnson, a former cardinal, frank gore, and a shaky offensive line at best. I think if arizona gets pressure on shaun hill its pretty much over, frank gore is an awesome back playing at a high level, which is also why its important for arizona to build a lead early and take him out of the game as much as possible.
Defensively for the 49ers they do got some good linebackers to limit the run with manny lawson, takeo spikes, patrick willis, and they got nate clements and micheal lewish who r both good defensive backs. I dont personally think arizonas gonna get most of their success by running, one good mismatch is Walt harris, the 49ers second starting corner is 5-11. Now im not sure who Nate Clements is going to be covering but fitzgerald is 6-3, thats 4 inches which could potentially be a difference maker on a jump ball in the end zone or just overpowering him off the line of scrimmage, on the other side you got anquan boldin, those 2 recievers are 217 pounds and 220 respectively. Walt Harris is 196, point being im not sure he can jam either of these guys and be physical. Even on running plays to the outside, either receiver should be able to block this guy easily.
For the Cardinals the only guy i can see them picking on would be okeafor, with vernon davis or frank gore, but i do like the cardinals defense, They got a lot of big boys out there and shouldn't get overpowered or nothing.
Onto the forgotten part of most games, and this could be big towards the spread, Allen Rossum is a solid return man and Arizonas punter Dirk Johnson is a pretty good punter, lets just hope arizona doesnt have to punt very much or allen rossum can do some damage. San Fran has some solid special teams with andy lee and joe nedney kicking for them, while Neil Rackers missed two field goals this year both on the road though, so he should be fine with the roof closed tonight i believe.
Lastly i did just watch highlights of the first game and while the 49ers seem to have blitzed Warner a lot he hung in there and got some offense, fitz beat nate clements for a jumpball in the endzone and could do the same tonight. 49ers only touchdown was a huge frank gore run, so hopefully the cards shut him down, dont think shaun hill is gonna beat them. ANND i really believe monday night football homefield advantage is huge, the crowd gets into it like its a playoff game, its really discouraging to be betting on a road team when the crowd goes so crazy everytime something bad happens to your team lol. In the end i think the cards will win this game with that crowd behind them, Shaun hill probably doesnt have his chemistry and timing down with the receivers completely so hopefully he'll overthrow or underthrow a couple of important third down passes and even moreso be under pressure with just a 4 man rush so he'll have to throw quicker and get picked off at least once today.
It might be of some importance to note the cards beat the 49ers on the road by 10, albeit the 49ers turned the ball over 5 times. San Francisco is -10 in turnover margin while Arizona is +1. Arizona's defense is third in the league in forcing fumbles, while San Fran is 23rd. Arizona has 21 sacks on the year compared to san fran's 14, but im done with fun facts for now this got way too long, hope this helped somebody though. Lastly (for real this time) Both games Arizona played at home saw the two opposing teams they faced bring in their backup quarterbacks lol
Anybody wanna summarize this guys book?
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mmike032
SBR Hall of Famer
09-11-08
8905
#51
Originally posted by CaneDawg
nah...i got two teasers home with az-2.5
I've been hot lately we will cash these biatches
I sure hope so but it wouldnt surprise me the least bit.
this could be the end of my bad luck
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element1286
Restricted User
02-25-08
3370
#52
If I had to take a side it would be San Fran.
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Jayy
SBR High Roller
10-07-08
203
#53
Giants Lost To Browns On Mnf
This Will Be A Fixed Game
49ers +10
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ryanXL977
SBR Posting Legend
02-24-08
20615
#54
giants lost to browns in cleve
sf aint the browns, browns arent bad
sf is awful
if you think games are fixed, dont bet
i have 4 teasers
raptors+14.5 az-2.5
magic-1 az-2.5
okc over 191.5 az-2.5
heat-3.5 az-2.5
az aint losing this game
theyll clobber sf
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Robust
SBR MVP
09-13-08
3254
#55
my capping says Ari -10 and Over.. if you know how this week went for me you know i sucked BAD! so I am betting:
SF +10 and Under 48.. LOL
Best of luck to all and hopefully a last sec comeback for me
Robust
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frostno98
SBR Hall of Famer
09-11-07
9769
#56
There were two 9.5 lines yesterday, one cover and one didn't.
The Jets -9.5 covered because they're a potent team while the Rams are just god Awful.
The Dolphins -9.5 are just as good as the Jets but didn't cover against seattle that are just as bad.
The difference between the two teams is the Jets came off a loss to raiders and they played that game with a vengeance, while the dolphins came off a road win at the Denver and looked past Seattle.
It's possible that Arizona might be playing in the same mind set as the dolphins and looking past the 49'ers.
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element1286
Restricted User
02-25-08
3370
#57
Originally posted by frostno98
There were two 9.5 lines yesterday, one cover and one didn't.
The Jets -9.5 covered because they're a potent team while the Rams are just god Awful.
The Dolphins -9.5 are just as good as the Jets but didn't cover against seattle that are just as bad.
The difference between the two teams is the Jets came off a loss to raiders and they played that game with a vengeance, while the dolphins came off a road win at the Denver and looked past Seattle.
It's possible that Arizona might be playing in the same mind set as the dolphins and looking past the 49'ers.
Jets have ability to score a lot of points, Dolphins don't.
Cardinals have that ability.
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bfour
SBR Wise Guy
01-14-08
690
#58
I'm on the Niners for a unit because last time the Niners lost to the Cardinals they played a reasonably well game, but they gave up 5 turnovers, I really don't think that they are gonna give a bunch of turnovers and take care of the ball.
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nick2060
SBR MVP
10-28-08
1051
#59
If miami could play defense then they could've covered the spread too, eitherway homefield advantage is big on monday nights, and MastaB why don't you learn to read
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supershark
Restricted User
03-11-08
231
#60
I like sanfran to cover. New coach going into a bye after that speech he gave last game, the team has to be pumped, hell have them fighting. Niners would have beaten Zona too in their first game if JTO wasnt afraid of keeping the ball.. Niners always play arizona tough no matter how bad of a season they're having they consistenly take 1 or both of the games each year.
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Beat up the book
SBR Sharp
08-21-08
380
#61
Originally posted by bfour
I'm on the Niners for a unit because last time the Niners lost to the Cardinals they played a reasonably well game, but they gave up 5 turnovers, I really don't think that they are gonna give a bunch of turnovers and take care of the ball.
Homer?
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diehardfan
SBR High Roller
09-01-08
228
#62
Zona big.
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chodya
SBR Rookie
11-06-08
12
#63
Look at all the games where a new QB started this weekend. None of them covered... Im not taking SF. SF will have to put up at least 21 to cover the spread IMO. Do not think that Hill has it in him. He will not make the mistakes JT probably made but I still dont like falling for a new QB situation.
GL all
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ryanXL977
SBR Posting Legend
02-24-08
20615
#64
sf has no chance
none
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bfour
SBR Wise Guy
01-14-08
690
#65
Originally posted by Beat up the book
Homer?
A little bit, but I also think it's true...
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ocho cinco
Restricted User
12-30-07
370
#66
SF is gona cover, the line should be moving with all this action. don't have the stomach to play this one though, probably gona take one of the big NBA dogs
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SportsLockPicks
SBR MVP
12-03-07
3386
#67
don't like this game at all, not playing it
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ryanXL977
SBR Posting Legend
02-24-08
20615
#68
you are throwing your money away on arguably , the worst or 2nd worst team on the nfl
10 pts is not a lot to cover for az at home , sf may not even score 14
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dwaechte
SBR Hall of Famer
08-27-07
5481
#69
Originally posted by ryanXL977
you are throwing your money away on arguably , the worst or 2nd worst team on the nfl
It's thought like this that makes sports betting profitable for some.
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ryanXL977
SBR Posting Legend
02-24-08
20615
#70
not really
id ont come in here calling things locks very often
i post all my plays and my best bets in every sport everyday
sf has no value, horrid offense, average d, on the road, against a first place team
what should the line be? az-14