if you think penn st would get killed by the florida's, texas's, alabama's, tx tech's

[hoopster42]

of the world, then i am pretty sure that you thought that the following teams had no shot either

2006, i bet you thought ohio state would kill florida in the natl title gm

2005, i bet you thought usc would beat texas pretty easily in the natl title gm

2002, i bet you thought miami would kill ohio state in the natl title gm

i am sure that you are the same ppl who are doubting penn state's ability right now, and you have such short memories, and you never ever learn your lesson

you're gona look foolish again, but you'll never learn your lesson

[bmw530i]

hahah....I love this guy, nice to have challenging threads...

[l7ustin]

i bet you didnt think iowa would beat penn state straight up this weekend?

[bmw530i]

No don't put these thoughts in my head....Penn State has been my meal ticket....don't let it end Justin....Noooo

[unde0087]

i wasn't betting in 2002, but i was on the moneyline on both texas and florida and this just in, Penn St doesn't have a chance in hell

Do you really want another overrated joke of a team from the Big 10 to give us a blowout loss so we get to enjoy the first 10 minutes of the national championship again this season? Honestly, we heard the same things the last two years from the Ohio State faithful and look what happened.

[Deuce]

Anything can happen in college ball. Everyone thought Michigan would get blown out in Florida against Florida in the Capitol One bowl.

[tobycsh39]

Thank goodness Penn St only has a chance to play one of those teams.......or they would be 12-4 instead of just 12-1....

[hoopster42]

i bet you didnt think iowa would beat penn state straight up this weekend?

no, i dont see it. iowa is a nice little team, they run the ball well, they play feisty defense, esp at home, but they cant throw it with any consistency, they dont have the horses to keep up with penn states offensive speed and explosiveness

this game will be close for half, but i envision penn state pulling away in the second half and winning by DD

in short, they have more answers for iowa's pedestrian offense than vice versa, iowa, while a bit stingy on D, will not be able to keep penn state's explosiveness in check the whole game, they'll tire by the late 3rd quarter and the nittany lions will make their move and pull away

[l7ustin]

The big ten has been a joke for years.

Ohio state getting embarassed in every natl champ game

Ohio state getting crushed by usc

Michigan losing to Appalachian State...

Seriously I cant believe you think you deserve respect

[wal66]

I don't like hoopster's style, but no-one should be looking at this Penn State team and seeing Ohio State of the past.

I'm not saying they would win against all of the top teams in the nation but I really don't think they would get blown out either.

The worst thing that can happen to a handicapper is to lose his/her objectivity. If you haven't seen Penn State play and your gonna bet on this weekends game then atleast do yourself a favor and find some video. Penn State has not won their games with smoke and mirrors. They are a complete solid football team.

Not trying to sway anyones decision just saying that comparring this Penn State team to previous Ohio State teams is subjective and not objective.

Iowa might be able to get an emotional lift and keep this game close but I'll take the odds of what has been proven all year over what might be possible.

[LT Profits]

Bad example, because I had Flordia and Ohio State, and although I only had the Over in the Texas game (I know, lucky win), I did feel that they had a shot. Those three dogs were all legitamte contenders.

Now I am not saying that Penn State is not, but I do not think they are any better than the fifth best team in the country. I believe they would be soundly beaten by Florida, Oklahoma or Texas, and I also feel they would lose to Alabama, although not as soundly. I DO feel that Penn State has a legit shot vs. any other team, including Texas Tech and especially USC.

So my beef isn't really that Penn State isn't qualified, it is that they are not one of the two best teams in the country and thus don't deserve to play for the title. Going undefeated against weak competition would not change that.

One more thing is I do feel it is unfair to compare Penn State to the Ohio State of the past two years, as in my eyes, this is the best Big Ten team since the good Ohio State team with Jailbird Clarrett at running back.

[mmike032]

I had FLA in 2006, and Texas in 2005. and I dont think Penn is a top 2 team either.
and I'm making my perdiction of FLA to win the BCS this year. Thats right Hoopster, I'm calling it right now because I think Texas, Oklahoma, and TT will be robbed from getting into the title game if Penn stays undefeated cause of the pollsters wanting Joe Pa to play for 1 last title. Which in turn leads to the SEC Champ (FLA) dismantling of a Big 10 team in the title game yet again.

[fiveteamer]

Any team in the top 10 could pretty much take turns beating eachother.

[hoopster42]

I'm making my perdiction of FLA to win the BCS this year. Thats right Hoopster, I'm calling it right now because I think Texas, Oklahoma, and TT will be robbed from getting into the title game if Penn stays undefeated cause of the pollsters wanting Joe Pa to play for 1 last title. Which in turn leads to the SEC Champ (FLA) dismantling of a Big 10 team in the title game yet again.

i posted florida to the bcs title game on 10/12 which was after the ole miss loss at home for the gators and 99% of ppl here and in the country just dismissed them.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/107760-why-usc-will-play-florida-national-title-game.html

the jury is still out on tex tech. after you see them get pasted at oklahoma, you wont feel they are getting "robbed" because you and the whole country will forget about them, just like most are doing with texas

still ROFLMFAO at ppl who said just last wk that texas 08 is better than texas 05, i said it right then that this was bull shit that stunk from thousands of miles away

its like i keep saying, let the whole season play out and then on dec 6th, we'll see who the 2 teams are that are left standing

[hoopster42]

I don't like hoopster's style

i am a product of listening to the bull shit of sports fans and sports bettors for so many yrs, that this is why i am who i am on this board

sports fan are for the most part a joke, they spew their opinions around with no knowledge of what they are talking about, then when they see that you were right and they were wrong, most of them arent man enough to say 'nice call man, i was wrong'

sports bettors are even worse at this than sports fans

there were so many ppl who were saying just a few wks ago that texas 08 > texas 05, i called it complete nonsense and explained exactly why

think they are giving me any credit for my CORRECT opinion? of course not

so i take the credit myself

FUKK EVERYBODY WHO THINKS THEY KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT SPORTS

YOU DONT KNOW 5% OF WHAT YOU THINK YOU DO

[fiveteamer]

hoospter, I suggest you get some pussy. It's quite clear you haven't had any in a while.

[The Seer]

in short, they have more answers for iowa's pedestrian offense than vice versa, iowa, while a bit stingy on D, will not be able to keep penn state's explosiveness in check the whole game, they'll tire by the late 3rd quarter and the nittany lions will make their move and pull away

kinda like USC had more answers for Oregon State?

[mmike032]

i posted florida to the bcs title game on 10/12 which was after the ole miss loss at home for the gators and 99% of ppl here and in the country just dismissed them.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/107760-why-usc-will-play-florida-national-title-game.html

the jury is still out on tex tech. after you see them get pasted at oklahoma, you wont feel they are getting "robbed" because you and the whole country will forget about them, just like most are doing with texas

still ROFLMFAO at ppl who said just last wk that texas 08 is better than texas 05, i said it right then that this was bull shit that stunk from thousands of miles away

its like i keep saying, let the whole season play out and then on dec 6th, we'll see who the 2 teams are that are left standing

you seem to be the one that keeps bringing it up
maybe an attempt to boost your ego at the end of the season when 1 of the 5 teams you have PREDICTED makes it to the title game

[hoopster42]

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you seem to be the one that keeps bringing it up
maybe an attempt to boost your ego at the end of the season when 1 of the 5 teams you have PREDICTED makes it to the title game

a month ago i said USC v FLORIDA

now i am saying PENN STATE v FLORIDA

that is only 3 teams in 10 wks of cfb

some ppl here change every week, but i have not wavered on florida

one thing i know for sure is that the georgia puss-dogs WILL NOT be there but i am quite sure it is EXTREMELY disappointing
for all the fans in athens and around the country who were expecting a bcs title run

NOPE, back to the capital one bowl or whereever the hell that team goes most seasons

[hoopster42]

kinda like USC had more answers for Oregon State?

2 national titles in this decade and runner up in what has been called the greatest cfb game in history by most cfb historians

and your team is?

(judging from your avatar of 'fire phil' it must be tennessee, who hasnt done shit nationally in a decade)

HEY VOLS, STOP LOSING TO CAL AND UCLA

[jjgold]

It is hard to predict bowl match ups because of long layoffs, the bowl season is a new season so throw all the regular seasons stats away, teams have tons of time to prepare so some outcomes are surprising

[hoopster42]

It is hard to predict bowl match ups because of long layoffs, the bowl season is a new season so throw all the regular seasons stats away, teams have tons of time to prepare so some outcomes are surprising

this is true, and plus #2 has a big edge vs #1 in bowl games because they have to hear for a month that theyre gona get their ass kicked and the other team is better, blah blah blah

#2 has a great record all time vs #1 in bowl games

no coincidence

[etothep]

i am a product of listening to the bull shit of sports fans and sports bettors for so many yrs, that this is why i am who i am on this board

sports fan are for the most part a joke, they spew their opinions around with no knowledge of what they are talking about, then when they see that you were right and they were wrong, most of them arent man enough to say 'nice call man, i was wrong'

sports bettors are even worse at this than sports fans

there were so many ppl who were saying just a few wks ago that texas 08 > texas 05, i called it complete nonsense and explained exactly why

think they are giving me any credit for my CORRECT opinion? of course not

so i take the credit myself

FUKK EVERYBODY WHO THINKS THEY KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT SPORTS

YOU DONT KNOW 5% OF WHAT YOU THINK YOU DO

You're right hoopster. You're a sports god who should be given millions of dollars so as to be able to start your own sports network so the rest of the public can be showered by your brilliance on a daily basis



get the phuck over yourself junior

[Crayzee]

**** this homer fan bull shit
this sites for gambling
go on espn or wherever for this stupid fan shit
i dont care who wins or loses any game as long as i'm on the right side

[unde0087]

hoopster, Florida would demolish Penn St. Penn St could barely muster points against Ohio State (the only team that is halfway good they have played this season) and Florida's defense is faster and stronger. Florida will score on Penn St like you saw USC score on Ohio St. At the end it all equals another Big 10 route and another horrible championship game. And then you wonder why everyone wants a playoff, so they don't have to see Big 10 teams who schedule cupcake after cupcake, then go through a conference which has been down for years and then go to the big game and get embarrassed. I don't know how you can say they belong when that conference hasn't proved that fact in years

that all i am saying, i just want to be able to enjoy watching a championship game because the past 2 years, it has been the worst bowl game of the year

[hoopster42]

that all i am saying, i just want to be able to enjoy watching a championship game because the past 2 years, it has been the worst bowl game of the year

i hear ya, brother, but remember that blowouts do happen in the natl title game, remember when usc beat oklahoma by like 40? how about miami dropping nebraska by 30? ohio the past 2 yrs has stunk up the joint but you cant hold this 08 penn state team accountable for ohio states shittiness the last 2 yrs

also, ohio state has a good defense, esp at home so i dont fault penn state for having some trouble down there

if penn st makes it, i promise you it will be a good game whoever they play, they really can play with anyone, and dont be too high on florida, losing at home to ole miss as a 22 pt favorite is pretty bad

[HedgeHog]

Penn St is not even a Top 10 team. I can name a dozen teams that can beat them on a neutral field.

[daneblazer]

we also thought USC would kill Ohio State...and they did

[HedgeHog]

we also thought USC would kill Ohio State...and they did

Exactly. I'll Take USC pick 'em over PS, regardless of where they play. Big Ten is piss poor.

[LT Profits]

I am holding some Florida +750 myself.

[patsfan2727]

Penn St is not even a Top 10 team. I can name a dozen teams that can beat them on a neutral field.

haha this is the most pointless post yet!
Penn State is undefeated, and still they get no respect.
Huge Penn State fan here, and all this talk doesn't even phase me. When we finish the season undefeated, we will play Florida for the national championship. You can play out all these imaginary fantasy matchups in your head where PSU loses, but ultimately they will not happen brotha....
Stop punishing the team because of the conference!!!

[hoopster42]

Stop punishing the team because of the conference!!!

exactly man. the wac always sucks but boise state beat oklahoma in 06. the mwc is nothing special on the national scene, not even a bcs conference but utah in 04 was really good. ppl used the same logic when betting against usc during the leinart yrs, saying the pac-10 is weak so usc is weak, well, you lost your money many times betting against usc in bowl games those yrs, youll be doing the same thing betting against penn state when the bcs title game rolls around

[mmike032]

So Hoopster are you predicting Penn ST to win the title?

[HedgeHog]

Ball St and Utah are undefeated too--are they title teams too? You're too impressed with a zero in the loss column. Look at strength of schedule for God's sake!

[patsfan2727]

once again, judge the team, not its' competition. basically what it boils down to is this. according to many people who do not like penn state, THEY CANNOT COMPETE FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO. win em all, sucks, too bad, try again next year to go undefeated and hope your competition doesn't suck so bad! mark may can suck mah balls