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  • THEGREAT30
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-04-08
    • 8970

    #1
    The Fix
    Just A Question? Out Of 10 Monday Night Football Games How Many Do You Think Are Predetermined By The Nfl Or Some Outside Force?
  • Masu485
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-14-08
    • 7700

    #2
    i honestly think a lot are. but most people will just try to shut you down and call you immature because you say that. that's what pisses me off. why is it so farfetched for games to be fixed??
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    • keystonekid
      SBR Sharp
      • 09-11-08
      • 487

      #3
      Take your feelings out of it and you will do fine picking the games.
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      • roasthawg
        SBR MVP
        • 11-09-07
        • 2990

        #4
        Originally posted by Masu485
        i honestly think a lot are. but most people will just try to shut you down and call you immature because you say that. that's what pisses me off. why is it so farfetched for games to be fixed??
        At this level it's not likely. These people are making enough money without risking time in prison to fix games. Not saying it never happens...just probably not that often.
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        • pat venditto
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-07-07
          • 14347

          #5
          0 games.
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          • betplom
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-20-06
            • 13444

            #6
            I'd have to say that ANYONE that sincerely believes NFL games are fixed is an idiot if they still bet on them.

            I KNOW that slot machines are fixed, and I NEVER play them.

            What kind of person proclaims the NFL is "fixed" and then continues to bet on NFL games? A fool.

            I'm not saying there not fixed, only because I cannot prove it, I personally don't believe it though.
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            • keystonekid
              SBR Sharp
              • 09-11-08
              • 487

              #7
              Call me an idiot, but, I know they can be fixed.
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              • Ganchrow
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-28-05
                • 5011

                #8
                Until I'm made aware of compelling evidence to the contrary my estimation would be zero.
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                • durito
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-03-06
                  • 13173

                  #9
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                  • Ganchrow
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-28-05
                    • 5011

                    #10
                    Originally posted by keystonekid
                    Call me an idiot, but, I know they can be fixed.
                    I'm sure they could, but of course the mere conceivability of an occurrence hardly speaks to its likelihood.
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                    • betplom
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 09-20-06
                      • 13444

                      #11
                      Originally posted by keystonekid
                      Call me an idiot, but, I know they can be fixed.
                      I'm interested, how do you know this?

                      Please explain.
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                      • Seattle Slew
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-02-06
                        • 7373

                        #12
                        I agree with most. No chance. Players are too well paid nowadays to even consider it.

                        Horse race fixing is another story, but never at the top tracks. Everyone busted in the last 20 years has been a harness driver or jockey at a cheap track. The top jockeys make too much money to risk it, although you'd think the races were fixed sometimes with the lousy rides some of the top jocks put on.
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                        • donnyguru
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 10-14-06
                          • 231

                          #13
                          Originally posted by THEGREAT30
                          Just A Question? Out Of 10 Monday Night Football Games How Many Do You Think Are Predetermined By The Nfl Or Some Outside Force?
                          Probably every one that you bet the chalk and lose in.
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                          • poetwarrior41
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 06-20-08
                            • 963

                            #14
                            Anyone that worries about the NFL being fixed, has no business betting at all.
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                            • Tsoprano
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 04-14-08
                              • 26374

                              #15
                              0

                              NBA - now thats a different story.
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                              • l7ustin
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-09-08
                                • 3914

                                #16
                                Seeing how this forum has been buzzing all weekend about how everyone should take Browns ML and Browns + points then I guess it is lucky for us that SBR Forums were made aware of the fix.
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                                • betplom
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-20-06
                                  • 13444

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by l7ustin
                                  Seeing how this forum has been buzzing all weekend about how everyone should take Browns ML and Browns + points then I guess it is lucky for us that SBR Forums were made aware of the fix.
                                  Good point, obviously the higher ups here at SBR are in the loop and they got the memo from the NFL.
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                                  • Tosser
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 08-13-08
                                    • 263

                                    #18
                                    1 reason why NFL players get so much money: yeah you guessed it, try buying a NFL game GL lol
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                                    • keystonekid
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 09-11-08
                                      • 487

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by betplom
                                      I'm interested, how do you know this?

                                      Please explain.
                                      I have been around the block a few times. There are 32 Head Coaches. Take the players way out of the loop.

                                      You have a Corporation that makes billions $.

                                      If you actually watch a football game, it is boring as hell.

                                      How do you make a billion $ industry out of a boring game?

                                      You make a deal with the Head Coaches.

                                      These are your fixes. (They call the plays) Do you see where I am going?
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                                      • The Seer
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-29-07
                                        • 10641

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by keystonekid

                                        If you actually watch a football game, it is boring as hell.
                                        What do you do for entertainment? serial kill?
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                                        • Kingctb27
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-16-08
                                          • 2258

                                          #21
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                                          • MonkeyF0cker
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 06-12-07
                                            • 12144

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by The Seer
                                            What do you do for entertainment? serial kill?
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                                            • MonkeyF0cker
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 06-12-07
                                              • 12144

                                              #23
                                              My guess is 47.
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                                              • betplom
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-20-06
                                                • 13444

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by keystonekid
                                                I have been around the block a few times. There are 32 Head Coaches. Take the players way out of the loop.

                                                You have a Corporation that makes billions $.

                                                If you actually watch a football game, it is boring as hell.

                                                How do you make a billion $ industry out of a boring game?

                                                You make a deal with the Head Coaches.

                                                These are your fixes. (They call the plays) Do you see where I am going?
                                                What you've described is simply a theory, not proof, this doesn't count as "knowing".

                                                Who approaches the coaches? What if a coach isn't interested, would they only fix games where he wasn't involved?
                                                Whats stopping a former coach from blowing the whistle?

                                                I can't believe that there exists a system where every coach keeps his mouth shut for eternity, if there was fixing going on, it would eventually get out, its human nature.

                                                I'm still nowhere near convinced.

                                                Only gamblers could actually believe this stuff, most coaches/players don't have ANY interest in gambling.
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                                                • keystonekid
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 09-11-08
                                                  • 487

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by The Seer
                                                  What do you do for entertainment? serial kill?
                                                  College football is entertaining. Pro is another subject. Have you ever been to a pro game? It ain't like TV.
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                                                  • MonkeyF0cker
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 06-12-07
                                                    • 12144

                                                    #26
                                                    Believe it or not, some people even find golf and chess entertaining. Crazy. Nice theory. I'm sold.
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                                                    • keystonekid
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 09-11-08
                                                      • 487

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by betplom
                                                      What you've described is simply a theory, not proof, this doesn't count as "knowing".

                                                      Who approaches the coaches? What if a coach isn't interested, would they only fix games where he wasn't involved?
                                                      Whats stopping a former coach from blowing the whistle?

                                                      I can't believe that there exists a system where every coach keeps his mouth shut for eternity, if there was fixing going on, it would eventually get out, its human nature.

                                                      I'm still nowhere near convinced.

                                                      Only gamblers could actually believe this stuff, most coaches/players don't have ANY interest in gambling.
                                                      Come on. Do not make this rocket science. 2 Head Coaches paid millions $ owned by The Big Boys> dudes on opposite sides of the field knowing what the outcome has to be, calls the plays to each other. EX: Jack: "Hey Bob, got to get 7 points here". Bob: "I know. Ok, call a pass play, I will call a Defensive run play". OK. Thanks. See later tonight at the party.
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                                                      • donnyguru
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 10-14-06
                                                        • 231

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                        Believe it or not, some people even find golf and chess entertaining. Crazy. Nice theory. I'm sold.
                                                        They are fixed also.
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                                                        • betplom
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 09-20-06
                                                          • 13444

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by keystonekid
                                                          Come on. Do not make this rocket science. 2 Head Coaches paid millions $ owned by The Big Boys> dudes on opposite sides of the field knowing what the outcome has to be, calls the plays to each other. EX: Jack: "Hey Bob, got to get 7 points here". Bob: "I know. Ok, call a pass play, I will call a Defensive run play". OK. Thanks. See later tonight at the party.
                                                          Sorry, your theory is full of holes, not the least bit convincing.

                                                          As I said, only gamblers believe this type of nonsense, they believe coaches, players, owners, and refs are all betting on the games, it just ain't so.

                                                          (Serious) Gamblers represent a small percentage of the population, true in the sports world as well.
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                                                          • MonkeyF0cker
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 06-12-07
                                                            • 12144

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by donnyguru
                                                            They are fixed also.
                                                            Fixed like a leg-humping german shephard.
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                                                            • golfguy112233
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 09-05-07
                                                              • 18

                                                              #31
                                                              why does everyone scream FIX when a big upset happens? any given sunday as the saying goes. plus i dont recall a scandal when the giants won the SB last year and that was a bigger upset
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                                                              • keystonekid
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 09-11-08
                                                                • 487

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by betplom
                                                                Sorry, your theory is full of holes, not the least bit convincing.

                                                                As I said, only gamblers believe this type of nonsense, they believe coaches, players, owners, and refs are all betting on the games, it just ain't so.

                                                                (Serious) Gamblers represent a small percentage of the population, true in the sports world as well.
                                                                You are missing the point. You are including everybody in this conspiracy. I said take the players out of it. And adding the refs. You are thinking to hard on this.
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                                                                • RogueJuror
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-08-08
                                                                  • 10010

                                                                  #33
                                                                  keystonekid when you make a video post it here in the players talk so get to see it. nice vid for mnf.

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                                                                  • betplom
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-20-06
                                                                    • 13444

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                                    Fixed like a leg-humping german shephard.
                                                                    If the German Shepherd was fixed, why is it still leg-humping?
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                                                                    • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 06-12-07
                                                                      • 12144

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by keystonekid
                                                                      Come on. Do not make this rocket science. 2 Head Coaches paid millions $ owned by The Big Boys> dudes on opposite sides of the field knowing what the outcome has to be, calls the plays to each other. EX: Jack: "Hey Bob, got to get 7 points here". Bob: "I know. Ok, call a pass play, I will call a Defensive run play". OK. Thanks. See later tonight at the party.
                                                                      You shoulda been at the party, bro. It was crazy. Jack n Bob were doin body shots off each other n shit after they cashed their ticket. It was awesome. Can't wait until next week.
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