2011 NFL Pro Picks with John Ryan

[Derty D]

Could you please list your plays?

For example, I think you had:

5* DEN/NYJ over 40
5* TEN+6
5* DAL-7
10* PHL+6
5* KC/NE over 46.5

My records show a different week to date results. That's why I would like to know what I missed. Thank you very much for your time, effort and support!

=)

[JR007]

Could you please list your plays?

For example, I think you had:

5* DEN/NYJ over 40
5* TEN+6
5* DAL-7
10* PHL+6
5* KC/NE over 46.5

My records show a different week to date results. That's why I would like to know what I missed. Thank you very much for your time, effort and support!

=)

post"# 2048.....5*..tenn +6..(.push,) sf-10 (win), dallas -7( lose),den/jets over 40( lose) ne/kc over lose,can 't count tenn as a win.........1-3-1

[Deol]

John, how are you 2-2 this week when you clearly are 1-3-1 on the plays posted. This is what I mean by transparent results. You are CLEARLY misrepresenting your record from what I can see, someone please correct me if I am wrong. This JR007 is onto something, and to all the people bashing him, you should be thanking him for trying to keep this "precious handicapper" honest. I like the insight and debate you provide John, but you are clearly losing credibility with your dishonest record keeping.

[my6sen]

i agree 100% he not honest

[rockhardfister]

What has no chance is that you ever liked chiefs and the under, which btw won't hit anyway

Look at my post above douche bag as it clearly states that I liked the Chiefs and the under. Do me a favor and turn your long horns sideways and stick them up your ass.

[JR007]

John, how are you 2-2 this week when you clearly are 1-3-1 on the plays posted. This is what I mean by transparent results. You are CLEARLY misrepresenting your record from what I can see, someone please correct me if I am wrong. This JR007 is onto something, and to all the people bashing him, you should be thanking him for trying to keep this "precious handicapper" honest. I like the insight and debate you provide John, but you are clearly losing credibility with your dishonest record keeping.

thank you Bro, just trying to help some of the guys out, here especially the newbies

[rockhardfister]

thank you Bro, just trying to help some of the guys out, here especially the newbies

You could help us out by giving us a winner. MAAC game tonight maybe?

[my6sen]

under 50*
i never wrong in pik in MAC game

[my6sen]

and small on ohio

[JR007]

no play for me, but I would lean under, .........I will give this advice to you guys, take advantage of the free service that sbr provides
and study line history, review past games, even the ones you do not bet.......stats from the past are like throwing darts, hit or miss......you want to be making decisions in real time, nothing wins all the time, but the more you study, the better you will be, I guarantee it,and with the proper money management, .....you will be able to make wise decisions, based on what you see, .the right play does not always win but, you will see things...I read 5 or 6 touts sheets a week but they are only used as backup to reinforce a play, Happy Holidays !!!!

[John Ryan]

Did you all see the latest breaking news. Kyle Orton has been shown the door in the Denver... Elway has had to give his approval on this move... This must mean they have someone in the college ranks that they know they can land in the draft. That Tebow will be the quarterback for this season and at least next.... I think this is monumental news and a strong commitment to the Tebow and this 1939ish offensive scheme. How about Orton gets picked up by the Chicago Bears? Now, that would require an investigation..

[adrenalinerush]

post"# 2048.....5*..tenn +6..(.push,) sf-10 (win), dallas -7( lose),den/jets over 40( lose) ne/kc over lose,can 't count tenn as a win.........1-3-1

Dude,
You and your cretin friends are getting so tiresome. If you must continue to hang around (you said you made your point so you were leaving), please get your facts straight. How can you blast someone else for giving bad stats and then present incorrect information yourself?!?!?! You say JR's record is not honest, but your research is no more credible.

Post #2048 was Dal -7 (L), San Fran -10 (W), and Tenn +6 (Push, personally, I got Tenn +7 so it was a W for me, but nevertheless...). Post #2099 was Eagles +6 10* (W), and Post # 2149 was NE O (L). Very simple record keeping reveals this is a 2-2-1 record. Where is the post for the NE/KC over that you reference?

If you must be a constant PITA, please get your facts straight.

[rockhardfister]

and small on ohio

I cant play the under on a MAAC game, besides Miami Ohio throws all the time and rarely runs, meaning the clock is stopping more than usual. Hasnt Ohio already clinched thier division? If so, what motivates them to lay it on heavy tonight? Senior night? I appreciate your input but was leaning the opposite direction. Need to check out the forecast.

[John Ryan]

I cant play the under on a MAAC game, besides Miami Ohio throws all the time and rarely runs, meaning the clock is stopping more than usual. Hasnt Ohio already clinched thier division? If so, what motivates them to lay it on heavy tonight? Senior night? I appreciate your input but was leaning the opposite direction. Need to check out the forecast.

I would agree. If you have to make a play then take the 'over'. The other consideration is Ohio University already clinched the East Division. It is Senior Night, but will they be completely focused? Or will be more of a celebration type of affair for the Seniors? I don't know, but it sure smells like a potential upset perhaps and lot sof scoring. Again, if I had to make a play.

[John Ryan]

I have a big 5* graded play on the College Hoops thread as well. California is the play and the complete research is at the thread.

[JR007]

Dude,
You and your cretin friends are getting so tiresome. If you must continue to hang around (you said you made your point so you were leaving), please get your facts straight. How can you blast someone else for giving bad stats and then present incorrect information yourself?!?!?! You say JR's record is not honest, but your research is no more credible.

Post #2048 was Dal -7 (L), San Fran -10 (W), and Tenn +6 (Push, personally, I got Tenn +7 so it was a W for me, but nevertheless...). Post #2099 was Eagles +6 10* (W), and Post # 2149 was NE O (L). Very simple record keeping reveals this is a 2-2-1 record. Where is the post for the NE/KC over that you reference?

If you must be a constant PITA, please get your facts straight.

read his post idiot, he took credit for the 10*... and said he went 2-2 on the 5 * over denver...loser, remember that one ??? ten push 1-3-1

[spike1519]

I'm having trouble finding the college hoops thread?
I was also lucky enuff to get Tenn. at 6.5 so I won as well, either way it was a good play as we all know and it was just stated as well, you do as much research as possible and make your pick's the good ones don't always win and I think TENN. was one of those pick's still a good play! .........spike.........

[khicks26]

thanks for all your picks, and help John. sorry that you have to put up with the clowns(007) that hang around, and add nothing to the thread (007). i just hope you don't get sick of it, and say fuk it. then all the people tailing your plays will be screwed. don't let a few jackasses(007) screw this up.(007)

[enter the dragon]

Ditto what knicks26 said John! For every one 007, there are far more suppprters for you JOHN

[Deol]

I'm truly stunned at the ignorance of people here. Maybe there just degenerate gamblers who are feeding for free picks. This guy, although provides interesting info., is being dishonest to all of you with his record keeping. But who cares right, as long as he provides cool info. and his record looks good . I hope he stops posting, sells his picks, you mindless people purchase them, and when you see your bankroll shrink but his record looking sharp, you'll put two and two together. Regardless GL to all.

[adrenalinerush]

read his post idiot, he took credit for the 10*... and said he went 2-2 on the 5 * over denver...loser, remember that one ??? ten push 1-3-1

I'm not defending his claim to his record on 5* picks of 2-2. That wasn't my point. I'm calling you out 007. You keep saying 1-3-1. What are the three losses? I see two losses - Dallas and the NE/KC over. Where is the third loss? Provide the post #, and please don't tell me you're referencing a pick from last week's games. I'm tired of your BS, but if I'm wrong I'll admit it and back off.

[Deol]

adrenaline rush, in post #2019 John clearly states this for the NYJ-DEN game which was the Thursday game for Week 11, therefore his Week 11 record should be 1-3-1 with all the plays he posted:

"I am going to go with the 'over' for a 5* graded play with a current line at 40, -110... most places are less than -110, but let's mark this one down with a -110 vig."

He also says this a few posts after:
"Good luck tonight. So, to recap, we are taking a 5* graded play 'over'; for optional wagers play a 3.5* play on Denver parlayed with the 'over'."

Again, I like his information but hes definitely not as accurate as he states he is which is a shame as I did initiialy look forward to following a "experienced" NFL handicapper.

[SXRD71]

I too have been following this^^..fishy

[smflanagan]

John - Can you post your College Football Link? For some reason I can not find it in the form.

[John Ryan]

John - Can you post your College Football Link? For some reason I can not find it in the form.

There has not been a college Football Thread as of yet. I have posted complete research and plays in the form of articles and those articles and plays can be found on the front page or in the CFB section. Like, last week, I will post ALL CFB and NFL plays here for the Thanksgiving Week. The College Basketball thread is up and running and can found here:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/ncaa-basketball-betting/1392687-ncaa-basketball-john-ryan.html

[John Ryan]

thanks for all your picks, and help John. sorry that you have to put up with the clowns(007) that hang around, and add nothing to the thread (007). i just hope you don't get sick of it, and say fuk it. then all the people tailing your plays will be screwed. don't let a few jackasses(007) screw this up.(007)

I appreciate the kind words and I understand exactly where you are coming from. It has not frustrated me in the least and the Tennessee play at the time of the release was 6 1/2 at the majority of books. Whether it was win or push; it was certainly not a loss. Moreover, there have been numerous MONEY LINE winners including the big one where I recommended a significant amount on Arizona in their road win at Philadelphia. That Line was +600 minimum and made the equivalent of three 5* winners, then we have last weeks Money Line winners on Penn State and Southern Cal; and those results are not included in any overall records too. And College Hoops having a significant winning run too. There were recommended losing bets too, but these money line winners more than offset any losing recommendations. I have no doubt that the loyal following recognizes these plays as several posters have written that they are up a ton because of the plays released.

[MakeitRain]

John Ryan whoever the **** you are make a pick so I can fade you.

Thanks in advance.

[enter the dragon]

All of a sudden our John Ryan is like Tim Tebow, polarizing! What has Tim Tebow ever done to be hated by douche bags other than just win and stay out of trouble also to be a good model for young people to
follow! If you have been following this thread from the beginning there is no denying that you should be making money period. John has taken the high road against these people that have come on this thread recently to bash him and I commend him for that. John (Tebow) Ryan , you keep doing the good work n keep giving us winners n disregard these jealous idiots that's been posting negative stuff bc we who have been following you since the beginning know tha allegation is not true

[smflanagan]

Thanks John! I have been following that thread as well.

[adrenalinerush]

adrenaline rush, in post #2019 John clearly states this for the NYJ-DEN game which was the Thursday game for Week 11, therefore his Week 11 record should be 1-3-1 with all the plays he posted:

"I am going to go with the 'over' for a 5* graded play with a current line at 40, -110... most places are less than -110, but let's mark this one down with a -110 vig."

He also says this a few posts after:
"Good luck tonight. So, to recap, we are taking a 5* graded play 'over'; for optional wagers play a 3.5* play on Denver parlayed with the 'over'."

Again, I like his information but hes definitely not as accurate as he states he is which is a shame as I did initiialy look forward to following a "experienced" NFL handicapper.

Thanks Deol. I did not look as far back as Thursday. So, I missed that one. So for 5* he was 1-3-1, agreed. Personally, I got Tenn +7 so it was a winner for me, plus I won on the 10* pick also. So, was the record reported incorrectly? Yes, technically, it was. However, these emails 007, and others, are writing go way beyond just commenting on his reported record. For me, based on his picks, 5* and 10* combined, I went 3-2 with a +9 unit gain (subtracted 10% vig).

So, I was wrong. His record keeping might be questionable, but I think most people (myself included) here don't believe they need 007 and his buddies acting as the SBR Forum police. I know, from week to week, whether I'm making or losing money based on his picks. If I lose then I'll move on. I just don't understand this major hard-on 007 has for John Ryan. Get over it, move on, move on to saving betters on some other thread.

[khicks26]

ok haters and clowns. once and for all. i could give a shit about the record, i have played all John,s picks from the start of this thread. when all is said and done its +EV. sorry if your clown-asses got in here late, and you had a losing week, or 2. If you think that, this thread, is the most important thing, that John has going. your sick and, wrong. so if the 5* record is off by a few plays, i could understand that. the guys trying to cap games. he's fuking busy OK.

so get off his ass, and lets all make some money. 007, and the freaks, need to STFU, or find something else to do. my god you people are silly.

[Deol]

I think JR007 is just doing it to make sure "newbies" that want to tail have all the information they should. When you post a play with a line of +6 thats what your record should show, just because other books have it at +6.5 you don't count that because that wasnt your play. khicks, regardless of how "busy" he is, it takes less than min. to calcualte your record with a grand total of 5 plays last week. Everyones here to make money so shouldnt they have all the information they can? Thats just what certain people are trying to do here. Relax. If you just want his plays, then ignore everything else, its not that hard.

[JR007]

the moral of the story is if he has difficulty posting an accurate record (with all his numbers and database skills) do not post a record at all, he wants it both ways, showcasing his (inaccurate) record as a capper, making people think he is better than he really is.....shameless..not a good way to advertise his business, but all this generates hits for the website, which he was brought in here to do........ANYWAY, the writeups are entertaining....... so do the other 6 tout sheets i read weekly

[khicks26]

I think JR007 is just doing it to make sure "newbies" that want to tail have all the information they should. When you post a play with a line of +6 thats what your record should show, just because other books have it at +6.5 you don't count that because that wasnt your play. khicks, regardless of how "busy" he is, it takes less than min. to calcualte your record with a grand total of 5 plays last week. Everyones here to make money so shouldnt they have all the information they can? Thats just what certain people are trying to do here. Relax. If you just want his plays, then ignore everything else, its not that hard.

007 could care less about newbies. and in his keeping track of John,s record. he left off the 10* on philly. so your buddy 007 can,t keep track of a weekly record.

[khicks26]

the moral of the story is if he has difficulty posting an accurate record (with all his numbers and database skills) do not post a record at all, he wants it both ways, showcasing his (inaccurate) record as a capper, making people think he is better than he really is.....shameless..not a good way to advertise his business, but all this generates hits for the website, which he was brought in here to do........ANYWAY, the writeups are entertaining....... so do the other 6 tout sheets i read weekly

dude the picks are free for now. use them if you want. so what if he sells his plays. nobody is telling you to buy them.

at least he,s doing for free now. most guys would not do all the work, and give it away. there nothing wrong with letting people sample a product, before they buy it. most of us here are big boys, and don't need you to protect us. but thats not the case here is it. you just want to be the guy that says i told you so, when things don't go right. Get a life.

if your so smart, start your own thread. then maybe you could get someone to pay for your picks.