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  • on3
    SBR MVP
    • 08-23-10
    • 2197

    #71
    no, not a play. only when a team loses 3 in a row SU and ATS. the 2 in a row and ATS only applies if a team is at .500 or better.
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    • Kev the Brit
      SBR MVP
      • 10-25-09
      • 2027

      #72
      on3, do you use the closing line or the opening line when comparing a team's score ATS?

      Keep up the good work

      Kev
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      • Kev the Brit
        SBR MVP
        • 10-25-09
        • 2027

        #73
        Originally posted by NZT-48
        looks like we got 5 potential games to watch out for this weekend to see if they qualify for our first set of plays....anyone else agree?
        Yeh, Buddy, agreed. And I have another 5 that lost their games SU and ATS last week and are now potential Week 5 plays.
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        • NZT-48
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 05-29-11
          • 522

          #74
          Originally posted by Kev the Brit
          Yeh, Buddy, agreed. And I have another 5 that lost their games SU and ATS last week and are now potential Week 5 plays.
          ok good deal thanks Kev just wanted to make sure is all
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          • SUPEREAGLE43
            SBR Hustler
            • 06-12-11
            • 51

            #75
            On3, what percentage of bankroll do your recommend for a unit. While following your baseball thread, my base unit was 0.5% of my total bankroll. Do you recommend something similar here? How many units do you anticipate this system to make? Thanks.
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            • Bocahdcp
              SBR Rookie
              • 07-17-10
              • 3

              #76
              This kind of thread is exactly what I was looking for when I joined up. I am looking for some solid guys with a system that will finally give me a good shot at beating my book. Thanks a ton I look forward to your advice.
              GL
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              • oklahoma
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-22-10
                • 602

                #77
                whats the rule on ATS pushes? Miami pushed today, does that make it a no play?
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                • on3
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-23-10
                  • 2197

                  #78
                  updated:

                  system record: 0-0
                  units: +0

                  Labby line (1 unit = $100)

                  50-50-50-50
                  50-50-50-50
                  50-50-50-50

                  system week 4 plays (lost 3 SU and 3 ATS):

                  Indianapolis (pending)
                  St Louis (A) to win 100

                  system week 5 potential plays (lost 2 SU and 2 ATS):

                  philly
                  chicago
                  jacksonville

                  system week 6 potential plays (lost 1 SU and 1 ATS):

                  arizona
                  cincinnati
                  houston
                  atlanta
                  new england
                  ny jets

                  mod system record: 0-0

                  mod system week 5 potential plays (.500 or better record, lost 1 SU and 1 ATS):

                  new england
                  houston
                  ny jets
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                  • Kev the Brit
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-25-09
                    • 2027

                    #79
                    Originally posted by oklahoma
                    whats the rule on ATS pushes? Miami pushed today, does that make it a no play?
                    Miami closed in Vegas at +2 so, for the purposes of JM and on3, they won the game ATS and are no longer in focus.

                    Kev

                    PS. Oops. Since writing the above nonsense, I have been made aware of my error. Miami were -1.5 ATS. Kev
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                    • Wallco99
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-01-11
                      • 7261

                      #80
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                      • alexknyc
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 03-22-11
                        • 861

                        #81
                        Didn't JM have a system where you take home dogs +10 or more against a team playing on a surface that's different from their home field? The Colts last night fit that scenario.
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                        • hagball52
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-22-10
                          • 3053

                          #82
                          On3 if you become an sbr pro we could give you more points. Just a thought. You contribute a lot.
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                          • oklahoma
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-22-10
                            • 602

                            #83
                            does anybody here actually place their bet in early in the week(today)? or do they wait til the day before and watch the line movement?
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                            • h00dini
                              Restricted User
                              • 09-17-09
                              • 659

                              #84
                              Originally posted by oklahoma
                              does anybody here actually place their bet in early in the week(today)? or do they wait til the day before and watch the line movement?
                              i place my bets on game day.
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                              • Kev the Brit
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-25-09
                                • 2027

                                #85
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                                • on3
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-23-10
                                  • 2197

                                  #86
                                  I was seeing Cleveland -2 for moat of the week until they finally ruled out Hillis. I didn't track the closing line, but it does look like Miami was the favorite by kickoff. I will adjust and have Miami as a play.
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                                  • oklahoma
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-22-10
                                    • 602

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by h00dini
                                    i place my bets on game day.
                                    good to know. i was curious as miami is getting juiced at +9 at pinny with some books already having moved to +7.5
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                                    • on3
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-23-10
                                      • 2197

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by oklahoma
                                      does anybody here actually place their bet in early in the week(today)? or do they wait til the day before and watch the line movement?
                                      if injuries a question, then i place them on gameday. if teams are healthy, i try to get the best line possible. this weekend, i hated playing detroit at -3 for a push instead of at -2.5 for a win.
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                                      • thebestthereis
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-01-09
                                        • 11459

                                        #89
                                        9 is because of teaser action, the difference between 7.5 and 9 is nothing. but it will matter in a teaser, which will see sd bets
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                                        • Wallco99
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-01-11
                                          • 7261

                                          #90
                                          What is the actual rule we are using for ATS pushes? It doesn't state it in the PDF. Are we counting it as a win for the team, since the rule says a team must LOSE three straight both ATS and S/U, and that obviously wouldn't happen in there was a push? Or does that game count as a no play, and the next game would be the next one in progression?
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                                          • on3
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-23-10
                                            • 2197

                                            #91
                                            this is the third year i am playing the system and a push is just as good as a 'win' when determining who qualifies for a play. now we will buy off numbers like 3, 7, 10, 14 when we make actual plays so that pushes are not a factor for the most part.
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                                            • on3
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-23-10
                                              • 2197

                                              #92
                                              system week 4 plays (lost 3 SU and 3 ATS):

                                              Miami +7.5 (buy hook) (A) to win 100
                                              St Louis PK (A) to win 100
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                                              • Wallco99
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-01-11
                                                • 7261

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by on3
                                                this is the third year i am playing the system and a push is just as good as a 'win' when determining who qualifies for a play. now we will buy off numbers like 3, 7, 10, 14 when we make actual plays so that pushes are not a factor for the most part.
                                                Thanks
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                                                • alexknyc
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 03-22-11
                                                  • 861

                                                  #94
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                                                  • knugen
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-09-09
                                                    • 2612

                                                    #95
                                                    Nice With some JM action on sunday
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                                                    • cmdyrds
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 08-20-09
                                                      • 522

                                                      #96
                                                      thanks guys for the work put in.
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                                                      • on3
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-23-10
                                                        • 2197

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by alexknyc
                                                        Didn't JM have a system where you take home dogs +10 or more against a team playing on a surface that's different from their home field? The Colts last night fit that scenario.
                                                        thats just the HUFT. it's been around forever, historically it hits around 60%.

                                                        HUFT = home underdog, (opponent on) foreign turf
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                                                        • alexknyc
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 03-22-11
                                                          • 861

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by on3
                                                          thats just the HUFT. it's been around forever, historically it hits around 60%. HUFT = home underdog, (opponent on) foreign turf
                                                          That's the one.... The Colts covered too.
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                                                          • Brundle99
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 10-23-10
                                                            • 295

                                                            #99
                                                            Does anyone have the JM NFL PDF?, last year I got the 'JM NFL System' and also the 'Ultimate NFL System PDF too,

                                                            but the difference is: "you compare the stadium surface of the team playing at home against the stadium surface that the away team is used to be playing on".

                                                            and the second is: "betting that one team is going to win at least one game in a consecutive 3-game series if they have just lost 3 consecutive games both straight up as well as on the spread."
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                                                            • uup115
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 09-28-11
                                                              • 483

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by on3
                                                              this is the third year i am playing the system and a push is just as good as a 'win' when determining who qualifies for a play. now we will buy off numbers like 3, 7, 10, 14 when we make actual plays so that pushes are not a factor for the most part.
                                                              JM's email claims, "The system goes by the 3-game A-B-C series like
                                                              you've always known, and best of all - the odds are never more than
                                                              -110!
                                                              " How do you buy the half and maintain these odds?
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                                                              • Wallco99
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-01-11
                                                                • 7261

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by uup115
                                                                JM's email claims, "The system goes by the 3-game A-B-C series like
                                                                you've always known, and best of all - the odds are never more than
                                                                -110!
                                                                " How do you buy the half and maintain these odds?
                                                                I don't believe it is worded quite like that, because if the team we are playing is the favorite, then we are playing the money line. There is a good chance that would be higher than -110 also. I believe he says "MOST plays are -110" not all plays.
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                                                                • mantorras77
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 05-08-09
                                                                  • 378

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by on3
                                                                  system week 4 plays (lost 3 SU and 3 ATS):

                                                                  Miami +7.5 (buy hook) (A) to win 100
                                                                  St Louis PK (A) to win 100
                                                                  I got Miami +9 on bodog and St. Louis +2 on bookmaker
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                                                                  • hagball52
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-22-10
                                                                    • 3053

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                    I don't believe it is worded quite like that, because if the team we are playing is the favorite, then we are playing the money line. There is a good chance that would be higher than -110 also. I believe he says "MOST plays are -110" not all plays.
                                                                    You are absolutely correct. When he was marketing his system to me he claimed there was the possibility of over 100 plays and the juice was never more than -110 but then I bought his system and the real truth came out. He the said that actually there were only 15 - 20 plays a year and that most of them were -110. You would have to bet money line on favorites but almost were never playing favorites. Very similar to what he is doing right now, still trying to market his "NFL Never Lost in 89 years" system. His recent email states that you just missed out on a big win and you should buy his system now so you don't miss out on the next winning bet but he doesn't tell you that won't happen until next year. He sure can market his services.
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                                                                    • uup115
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 09-28-11
                                                                      • 483

                                                                      #104
                                                                      The last win he was referring to was the GB(B) fade against CAR. "Fade the Superbowl champion for a 3 game chase at start of next season".
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                                                                      • DustyDiamond
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 12-19-09
                                                                        • 772

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Sorry for the rookie question but what does "buy hook" stand for?
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