2011 NFL System - JM and Modified

[Stanley77]

Just keep betting on the Rams and the Dolphins. No team, no matter what sport, has ever went undefeated or winless ATS. The Rams and the Dolphins will cover the spread sometime.

According to Coach Thompson from NFL Betting System, the Rams and the Dolphins are "B" bets.

[pwireless]

What a scam system coach Thompson is. Google it
Thousands of complaints
It's like an 8 game chase system. What a joke. It looked good until I researched google and found out how it works.

[pwireless]

Sportsbettingstar is my favorite and then John Morrison after that. Both are 3 game chases but sportsbettingstar wins on the first or second bet most of the time which is why it is my favorite and morrsions is good but JM NFL is a total joke

[MARCUS]

thanks..tried to give u some point's..no can do??

[Stanley77]

What a scam system coach Thompson is. Google it
Thousands of complaints
It's like an 8 game chase system. What a joke. It looked good until I researched google and found out how it works.

His systems are not 8-game chase systems. I think what you're trying to say is that they're 4-game chase systems. There are 2 strategies to these systems, which are betting on a team that has lost 4 straight games ATS regardless if they won or lost SU and to bet against a team that has won 4 straight games ATS regardless if they won or lost SU. They don't win all the time so to ensure that his systems have a better chance of winning he adds a bye week filter.

Two years ago his NFL systems were to chase 3 games and 4 games. Last year it was to only chase 3 games. This year it's to chase 3 games again but Coach Thompson added another filter of an extra bet of the same bet because of the amount of units to bet on. For example, he said to make an "A" bet on the Rams when they played against the Redskins. After that loss, he said to make another "A" bet on the Rams when they played against the Packers. After that loss, he said to make another "A" bet on the Rams when they played against the Cowboys. So after that loss, it's now a "B" bet for the Rams when they play against the Saints next week. I think the reason why he's changing these plays every year is because of the bye week filters and the amount of units to bet on.

Sportsbettingstar is my favorite and then John Morrison after that. Both are 3 game chases but sportsbettingstar wins on the first or second bet most of the time which is why it is my favorite and morrsions is good but JM NFL is a total joke

I would follow the NFL systems from Coach Thompson (almost 100% win rate) and the NFL system from Sports Betting Champ, which is the 3-game chase betting against the defending Super Bowl Champions (100% win rate).

[pwireless]

Now that u explained it that definitely has to be the worse system I have ever heard of in my life
Thompson should call it bet the same team 9 times chase system

[hagball52]

I've decided to be nice and see how he responds to this:
To:
"The Sports Betting Champ" <john@sportsbettingchamp.com>

John, Now that the 2 (C) bets have lost do we abandon the series or do we start over with an (A) bet on MIA and STL ? I don't believe you've addressed this in your rules and it seems that the probability is much better now than before. I think it would be highly unlikely that a team would lose 9 games SU and ATS. Please let me know where you stand on this issue. Thanks, James

[pwireless]

He won't respond LOL
Maybe if u address him by his real name Mr Tony Chau he will reply LMAO
JM is frustrating. Wish he was more honest ya know

[thelimit0310]

You mean to tell me his incredible NFL never lost once in 8,000 years system just lost not once, but TWICE, last night? Wow truly incredible

[on3]

system record: 3-2 (1 series open)
units: -11.4

Labby line (1 unit = $100)

130-130-130-300
110-95-95-178
85-85-85-313

reshuffle

175-175-175-165
110-115-115-148
135-135-135-163

system week 8 plays (lost 3 SU and 3 ATS):

#6 -- Arizona (B) to win 230
#7 -- Indianapolis +9.5 (A) to win 175
??? #8 -- Miami (A) to win 175
??? #9 -- St Louis (A) to win 175

system week 9 potential plays (lost 2 SU and 2 ATS):

tennessee
detroit
washington

system week 10 potential plays (lost 1 SU and 1 ATS):

baltimore
san diego
tampa bay
oakland

mod system record: 2-0
units: +2

Labby line (1 unit = $100)

x-x-x-x
50-50-50-50
50-50-50-50

mod system week 8 plays (.500 or better record, lost 2 SU and 2 ATS):

#3 -- Washington +7.5, -140 (A) to win 100
#4 -- Detroit (A) to win 100
#5 -- Tennessee -9.5, -525 (A) to win 100

mod system week 9 potential plays (.500 or better record, lost 1 SU and 1 ATS):

baltimore
san diego
tampa bay
oakland

[on3]

im not sure what to do about Miami and St Louis. the rules would dictate to play them as an (A) bet again, but who still has faith in these teams anymore?

[hagball52]

Seeing as how we are playing JM's system we should continue. I did write him and ask him about it. Haven't heard from him yet. Will post if he ever responds. He's probably extremely busy trying to find a way to erase these losses. Consider the possibilty of a team losing 9 in a row and against the spread let alone 2 teams doing it at the same time.

Just went and looked at the next 3 games for IND, MIA, STL and ARI and all 4 of these teams have a realistic chance of covering one of their next 3 games. ARI and STL do face each other in 2 weeks but they both may not be a system bet at that time.

[Andy3568]

Does anyone feel comfortable betting the Rams against the Saints? Anything can happen, but the Saints were on fire against the Colts, and I don't know if the Rams are even as good as the Colts.

[Brundle99]

Thats the thing, ok we've had a bad run (personally I lost on the Rams and Cardinals) (Miami C bet I didn't wager on) but what are the chances of those teams next games losing another 3 in a row?.

Maybe we should look back over the last 5 or 10 years and see if it ever happened to any team, or possibly add 1 additional filter to the system, whether it be a quarterback injury rule to not play, or maybe don't start betting on any team until they have played more than 3 games.

Any thoughts guys?

[Firebird27]

im not sure what to do about Miami and St Louis. the rules would dictate to play them as an (A) bet again, but who still has faith in these teams anymore?

Per JMs document on this 3 game chase system, once you lose a (C) bet, you lose the bet. You move on. I've back tested this system with closing lines going back to 2001 from Marc Lawrence's 2011 Playbook.com Football handicappers yearbook. Below are the teams that have lost 6 SUATS that would have been JM system losses:

2002 Arizona
2003 Atlanta
2003 NYG
2004 Cleveland
2004 NYG
2005 Oakland
2009 Tennessee
2011 Miami
2011 St Louis

I'm sure JM would dispute these losses because his records would indicate something to the contrary (different closing line, a system filter, whatever) to make his record look better. The reality of his system is if you have to have 7 winners to make up for 1 - 3 game chase loser, if you follow his suggested bankroll management. ON3, how many wins using Labby will you have to get to make up for the 2 - 3 game chase losses to date?

[oklahoma]

after researching on the sdql website, which dates back to 1989 i believe, no team has lost 9 SU and ATS.

in the last 21 years(not including this season) there have been 12 seasons where we would have played a 7th game.
had we played the 7th week, the record is 7-10.
had we then chased the losses for another week(8th) the record is 4-4.
had we played the final game(9th week) the record is 4-0.
*some of the losses above may not add up as the loss occurred the last week of the season therefore there was no continuation bet

sdql generally picks the line which favoured the team the best, last week Miami is listed as +1.5, ARZ +3.5, and STL +13.5

[Andy3568]

You mean to tell me his incredible NFL never lost once in 8,000 years system just lost not once, but TWICE, last night? Wow truly incredible

He'll probably start saying his incredible NFL only lost twice in 8,000 years.

[thebestthereis]

I run a 16 game chase, zip zero losses ever. Free money.

[imotiv8]

I run a 16 game chase, zip zero losses ever. Free money.

[hagball52]

I know there are a few of you out there that JM has been soliciting his "Invincible NFL System" to. If you wouldn't mind writing him and asking him what his current record is he may respond to someone he is trying to sell to. I've written him a few times and have gotten no response. I'd really like to know where he stands on this past disaster of a weekend.

Also I know when the (C) bet loses the bet is over but I really do believe there is tremendous value in requalifying the series. Thanks to oklahoma for the research from sdql. I for one am definitely going to play on.

[pwireless]

Oklahoma what a way to break it down. I'm done with JM football for the year I am sticking to sportsbettingstar.com for NFL
Sportsbettingstar has won all 6 bets so far this year and five out of 6 of them won at Bet 1 or as JM calls it Bet A

JM football system obviously ain't that good

[cleonhr]

You should fade Miami, Indianapolis and St. Louis.

[NHL_freak]

Agree with cleonhr here

[MARCUS]

will do h/b...

[DustyDiamond]

what is this sportsbettingstar all about? new system?

[Brundle99]

Does anyone pay attention to team statistics like accuscore?, sometimes if I have a bad feeling about a play, I'll either not play it or bet a lot smaller amounts if I can see that the game simulations favour my team.

[Kev the Brit]

Oklahoma what a way to break it down. I'm done with JM football for the year I am sticking to sportsbettingstar.com for NFL Sportsbettingstar has won all 6 bets so far this year and five out of 6 of them won at Bet 1 or as JM calls it Bet A JM football system obviously ain't that good

Clearly it cannot be called "Invincible" any more; thats a fact. However, to say it "ain't that good" in the general sense (rather than comparing it with invincibility) is even further from the truth. 2 losses in all the years the system has been running is bordering on excellent. By the way, I disagree with the statement by Firebird that Tennessee lost ATS in 2009. I won that series at the C Bet, but I forget what the margin was.

[oklahoma]

2 losses in all the years the system has been running is bordering on excellent.

its had far more than 2 losses, albeit not in the last 6 or 7 years. from '00 to '04 there were 5 losses. doesnt seem like much but it is for a system that averages 10 plays a year.

[pwireless]

what is this sportsbettingstar all about? new system?

No it's been around for a few years now. I will post last years MLB record and I will also post this years NFL record if I can. With sportsbetting star Bet A is Bet 1 and Bet B is Bet 2 and Bet C is Bet 3. The system is exactly like JMs but wins alot on the first or second bet. Doesn't go to bet C Aka Bet 3 that often

[pwireless]

Here is sportsbettingstar.com MLB record from this year and what bet level each pick won at like JM instead of Bet ABC it is called Bet 123

4/8/11*** Tampa Bay Rays***** (won)* Bet 1
4/11/11* Texas Rangers********* (won)* Bet 1
4/14/11* Baltimore Orioles**** (won)* Bet 2
4/23/11* Houston Astros******** (won) Bet 2
4/25/11* Chicago White Sox** (won) Bet 1
4/28/11* Minnesota Twins****** (loss)* All 3 bets lost
5/3/11*** Philadelphia Phillies* (won) Bet 1
5/3/11*** Detroit Tigers************ (won) Bet 2
5/5/11*** Milwaukee Brewers** (won) Bet 3
5/6/11*** Atlanta Braves********** (won) Bet 1
5/6/11*** Minnesota Twins****** (won) Bet 1
5/7/11*** Pitsburgh Pirates******* (won) Bet 2
5/8/11*** L.A. Dodgers************ (won) Bet 3
5/13/11* N.Y Mets****************** (won) Bet 1
5/18/11* S.F. Giants**************** (won) Bet 1
5/20/11* Oakland A’s************** (won) Bet 1
5/29/11* Chicago Cubs************ (won) Bet 3
5/29/11* L.A Dodgers************** (won) Bet 1
5/29/11* N.Y. Yankees************ (won) Bet 1
5/30/11* Toronto Blue Jays***** (won) Bet 1
6/6/11*** Colorado Rockies****** (won) Bet 1
6/11/11* Pittsburgh Pirates****** (won) Bet 2
6/17/11* Chicago Cubs*********** (won) Bet 1
6/20/11* Tampa Bay Rays****** (won) Bet 1
6/24/11* L.A. Angels*************** (won) Bet 1
7/2/11*** Milwaukee Brewers*** (won) Bet 2
7/5/11*** Boston Red Sox******** (won) Bet 2
7/8/11*** Atlanta Braves********** (won) Bet 1
7/15/11* Chicago Cubs************ (won) Bet 2
7/19/11* Baltimore Orioles****** (won) Bet 2
7/23/11* L.A. Dodgers************* (won) Bet 2
7/26/11* Florida Marlins********** (won) Bet 1
7/29/11* St Louis Cardinals***** (won) Bet 1
8/2/11*** Seattle Mariners******** (won) Bet 1
8/5/11*** Washington Nats******* (won) Bet 2
8/9/11*** Milwaukee Brewers** (won) Bet 1
8/15/11* Pittsburgh Pirates****** (won) Bet 1
8/21/11* St Louis Cardinals***** (won) Bet 3
8/21/11* Oakland A’s************** (won) Bet 1
8/24/11* Tampa Bay Rays******* (won) Bet 3
8/26/11* Detroit Tigers************ (won) Bet 1
8/29/11* Philadelphia Phillies** (won) Bet 1
9/2/11*** Oakland A's*************** (won) Bet 1
9/5/11*** Detroit Tigers************ (won)* Bet 1
9/5/11*** Washington Nats******* (won)* Bet 1
9/5/11*** Philadelphia Phillies** (won)* Bet 1
9/8/11*** Arizona D'backs******** (won)* Bet 1
9/9/11*** Detroit Tigers************ (won)* Bet 1
9/12/11* Tampa Bay Rays******* (won)* Bet 1
9/14/11* Philadelphia Phillies* (won)* Bet 3
9/16/11* Milwaukee Brewers** (won)* Bet 1
9/19/11* Arizona D’backs******* (won)* Bet 1
9/20/11* Texas Rangers*********** (won)* Bet 1
9/24/11* Los Angeles Angels*** (won)* Bet 2
9/25/11* Philadelphia Phillies*** (won)* Bet 3

[pwireless]

And here is sportsbettingstar.com NFL record year to date

9/11/11* New York Jets**************(won)*** Bet 1
9/25/11* Baltimore Ravens******** (won)** Bet 2
10/2/11* New England Patriots** (won)* Bet 1
10/2/11* Green Bay Packers******(won)* Bet 1
10/9/11* San Diego Chargers*****(won)* Bet 1
10/23/11 NO Saints (won) Bet 2

[doublej95]

pwireless why don't you start a sportsbettingstar thread and post the plays in there.

[knugen]

There is à sportsbettingstar thread where we post the plays, keep it there pwireless

[honeyeater]

Not important- Do not want to hurt his Business.

[pwireless]

I've been following sportsbettingstr, Jim Morrison and rich Allens systems all 3 now for almost a year now and sportsbettingstar picks are never the same as morrisons or rich Allens systems they are not stolen picks from other systems and as a matter of all honesty sportsbettingstar is a better system and wins more than morrisons and rich Allens systems. All three systems have completely different picks than another. If you subscribed to them you would know that the picks are almost always completely different. I strongly doubt you have anything ever to do with sportsbettingstar cause your comments are so far from the truth. From buying all three systems now for almost a year I can tell you from experience what systems are the best in order
#1 sportsbettingstar
#2 John morrison
#3 rich Allen

Rich Allens system totally sucks not even worth buying
JM and sportsbettingstar are the best ones out there and have completely different picks than one another but in the end sportsbettingstar wins more than JMs picks and dude that owns sportsbettingstar is top notch customer service. When I email him I usually get replies right away and there not retarded bull crap email responses like u get from JM