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  • martino maserati
    SBR High Roller
    • 11-13-10
    • 112

    #1
    bears +1.5 too good to be true or def locktown?
    with the 3rd string qb tyler thigpen in for the dolphins who didnt look to bad against a good titans team and the bears coming off a victory against the lowly vikings...is this a safe enough play knowing the bears defense is up against a 3rd stringer and possibly can manage a couple turnovers???? i thiknk so let me have some feedback though
  • EricZ116
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-09-10
    • 493

    #2
    I think you've got it backwards if you ask me. I posted my thoughts about this in my thread here: http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-handic...-73-plays.html

    Here are some key notes that I like that go against your statements:

    -Bears are traveling on a short week. Their D won't be up to their norm.
    -Jay Cutler hasn't had a been as bad as normal the last two weeks - and the Bears just barely squeeked by in those games. Miami has a much better pass rush than the Vikings and Bills (almost as many sacks as both teams combined) so I think they will generate enough pressure to make Jay Cutler turn it over 3 times.
    -Tyler Thigpen isn't very bad. He doesn't turn the ball over, and he is good on the run - something he'll need to be against a solid Bears pass rush.

    You can read the rest in my thread.
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    • Dukebluejms
      SBR MVP
      • 10-21-09
      • 1633

      #3
      I agree Eric. Dolphins are the play here. Thigpen is very much a capable back up. Miami has the better defense and running attack. They'll be able to control the pace and eek out a victory. Cutler will not be able to throw all over the Dolphins especially when they don't have to respect the run. Dolphin's D will be able to pin their ears back and make life hell for Cutler. Bears are the square play, public is hammering them. Always a sign for me to play the other side. Miami 23-17
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      • Maxlock
        Restricted User
        • 11-09-10
        • 397

        #4
        Take the Phins in this one. http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-handic...season-p3.html
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        • martino maserati
          SBR High Roller
          • 11-13-10
          • 112

          #5
          nice feedback still havent touched anything just looking for opinions of other people thnks guys keep em coming not sure if im sold on the dolphins yet though thigpen hasnt played that much and the bears get alot of intos and fumbles thats why im taking the points
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          • hubie69
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-16-10
            • 7329

            #6
            I think the right play here is to tease the dolphins and the over. This would give you dolphins +4.5 and over 34.5.

            In the immortal words of THIS MAN:


            Its straight Cash Homie!
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            • TonyHoliday
              SBR High Roller
              • 10-01-08
              • 146

              #7
              I don't care that the public is on the bears, chi is still the right side, good defense and o line starting to come around, the dolphins are not a good enough team to rely on a qb managing the game
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              • d2bets
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                • 08-10-05
                • 39995

                #8
                Miami's center Joe Berger has been ruled OUT. They're going to start Cory Proctor who hasn't played center since 2007 with Dallas. And he's going to snap to a 3rd stringer who has barely played. Jake Long might start....with a massive shoulder harness to "protect" a torun labrum. Are you kidding me? If you bet on this, you're going wonder what the heck you were thinking come Thursday night.

                I've been tagging the Bears and will add now. They are going to be closing favorites in this, I think.
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                • d2bets
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                  • 08-10-05
                  • 39995

                  #9
                  Oh and free safety Clemons also out replaced by a 5th round rookie.
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                  • msec512
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 11-02-09
                    • 346

                    #10
                    I'm leaning towards the Bears too. See where the line goes tomorrow.
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                    • kcDdegenerate
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-07-09
                      • 3157

                      #11
                      Im thinking Miami at home with a little more wildcat and Thigpen managing the game
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                      • d2bets
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                        • 08-10-05
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                        #12
                        Do you guys think wildcat is a good formation against this Bears defense? Seems to play right into their hands.

                        Thigpen who hasn't started in a couple years is going to "manage" the game taking snaps from a center who hasn't played the position in a few years....why?
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                        • SmackdownV
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-14-09
                          • 5918

                          #13
                          Originally posted by d2bets
                          Miami's center Joe Berger has been ruled OUT. They're going to start Cory Proctor who hasn't played center since 2007 with Dallas. And he's going to snap to a 3rd stringer who has barely played. Jake Long might start....with a massive shoulder harness to "protect" a torun labrum. Are you kidding me? If you bet on this, you're going wonder what the heck you were thinking come Thursday night.

                          I've been tagging the Bears and will add now. They are going to be closing favorites in this, I think.
                          Yeah,

                          Keep thinking like that.

                          The Book LOVES your money.
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                          • SmackdownV
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                            • 04-14-09
                            • 5918

                            #14
                            Originally posted by d2bets
                            Do you guys think wildcat is a good formation against this Bears defense? Seems to play right into their hands.

                            Thigpen who hasn't started in a couple years is going to "manage" the game taking snaps from a center who hasn't played the position in a few years....why?
                            Yeah,

                            Keep thinking like that.

                            The book LOVES your money.
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                            • surffreak
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 09-10-10
                              • 211

                              #15
                              im on the fins.

                              just to point out that their is a great trend on 2nd or 3rd string qb's replacing a injured 1st string on covering the spread. The opposing team usually takes them lightly, and everyone on the dolphins knows they have to play 110%.

                              taking a team who has a back up starting for the first time has been great for me this season.
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                              • ttrace35
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-30-10
                                • 10828

                                #16
                                Anybody wanna side bet that cutler throws 3+ ints??
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                                • d2bets
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                                  • 08-10-05
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ttrace35
                                  Anybody wanna side bet that cutler throws 3+ ints??
                                  Sure. I'll take Cutler U2.5 INT's even money. How many points do you want to bet?
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                                  • spongerat
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-01-08
                                    • 2023

                                    #18
                                    i'm on the bears, they will win by 2td
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                                    • d2bets
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                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 39995

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by surffreak
                                      im on the fins.

                                      just to point out that their is a great trend on 2nd or 3rd string qb's replacing a injured 1st string on covering the spread. The opposing team usually takes them lightly, and everyone on the dolphins knows they have to play 110%.

                                      taking a team who has a back up starting for the first time has been great for me this season.
                                      How many of those teams also lost their starting Center the same week? Any trends on losing a Center?
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                                      • brewcrew2k
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-26-10
                                        • 1158

                                        #20
                                        Bears can win this game if Cutler can not throw an interception, Also the under looks good.
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                                        • woody78
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-18-08
                                          • 502

                                          #21
                                          Bears will be my play.
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                                          • Rod1010
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-01-10
                                            • 6208

                                            #22
                                            cory proctor is playing ??? hahahhaha he was on the cowboys team and hes fkin horrible. GL people lmfao
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                                            • thebestthereis
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-01-09
                                              • 11459

                                              #23
                                              There various trends and angles to peruse over and hours of computations. Take your time and start at the top. Cutler plays for the Bears. Light a fire and burn every other factor in this game and you are done, stop. Whoever is playing opposite of Cutler you bet. Your decision and calculation time is now 3 seconds.
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                                              • d2bets
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                                                • 08-10-05
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by thebestthereis
                                                There various trends and angles to peruse over and hours of computations. Take your time and start at the top. Cutler plays for the Bears. Light a fire and burn every other factor in this game and you are done, stop. Whoever is playing opposite of Cutler you bet. Your decision and calculation time is now 3 seconds.
                                                And you're either 4-4-1 or 4-5 this season.
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                                                • jgray
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                                                  • 09-06-09
                                                  • 3599

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by hubie69
                                                  I think the right play here is to tease the dolphins and the over. This would give you dolphins +4.5 and over 34.5. In the immortal words of THIS MAN: Its straight Cash Homie!
                                                  Great photo.
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                                                  • Plu$Money
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 10-28-08
                                                    • 395

                                                    #26
                                                    I'll take Miami and the points
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                                                    • ramones951
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-23-08
                                                      • 2356

                                                      #27
                                                      I'm on the fins as well. Yes their starting center will be out but as we saw last Sunday thigpen is very capable of throwing on the run. The bears have to be the shakiest 6-3 team I've seen in a while.
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                                                      • SR
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-10-08
                                                        • 1317

                                                        #28
                                                        locktown? even in your post you dont sound convinced. I like anyteam getting points against the bears this season....ANY TEAM any lineup. Miami at home....they will still find a way to beat the clowns. Chicago is sad this year.
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                                                        • SR
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-10-08
                                                          • 1317

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jgray

                                                          Great photo.
                                                          Jgray, these defenses are both decent though, I dont want to go near the over teases or not.
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                                                          • d2bets
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                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 39995

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by SR
                                                            locktown? even in your post you dont sound convinced. I like anyteam getting points against the bears this season....ANY TEAM any lineup. Miami at home....they will still find a way to beat the clowns. Chicago is sad this year.
                                                            I guess any team didn't work for the Vikings last weekend.
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                                                            • Jonah
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-21-09
                                                              • 4042

                                                              #31
                                                              Go with your gut. Go Bears.
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                                                              • KingJIM
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 06-25-09
                                                                • 757

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Plu$Money
                                                                I'll take Miami and the points
                                                                What? The bears are getting a point to a point and half.
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                                                                • Brock Landers
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 06-30-08
                                                                  • 45359

                                                                  #33
                                                                  OVER

                                                                  Seen nothing in the NFL anymore to make you want to bet an UNDER.
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                                                                  • newjerseydevils
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-11-08
                                                                    • 3110

                                                                    #34
                                                                    bears, liking them. but not sure its a playable game
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                                                                    • ramones951
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-23-08
                                                                      • 2356

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Dolphins could easily win by 10+
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