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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #1156
    Originally posted by bobbyk1133
    This is where you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.
    More of a case of me typing at first impulse without thinking it through first. You are right, if I respect the CRIS opener enough to make me leery enough of Dallas even before the teaser consideration, the best course is to just avoid this game altogether.
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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #1157
      I should add that everything I say in this thread is RLM related, which is just one tool. That would not prevent me from betting this game just on conventional capping and/or opinion alone.
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      • bobbyk1133
        SBR MVP
        • 08-05-10
        • 2245

        #1158
        Originally posted by RustedVegas
        And how do you prove that sharks grabbed this +3? Just because you say so doesn't make it true. You don't have your finger on the pulse of all the sharps in the world, you just think you do.
        If you spent as much time researching for yourself as you did writing this troll response you could have found the same info. There is more than enough free info available for all squares to find. The love sharps have for Detroit is all over Las Vegas radio, podcasts, articles, twitter, etc. A better question is to try and find ONE source that has sharps on Dallas.

        Here's an excerpt from Nick Bogdanovich.

        DETROIT AT DALLAS: The Cowboys opened at -3 with the general perception that the teams were even, and home field advantage is worth three points. Sharps really like Detroit this year, and immediately came in on the underdog. The line has moved all the way down to Dallas -1. Some of that is concern about the teaser window. Sharps like Detroit, and like playing six-point teasers that cross both the 3 and the 7…so you can imagine that sharps would be all over Detroit +7.5 of +8 in their two-teamers. Moving the line down to Dallas -1 discourages that…and encourages Dallas money to come in and even out the betting balance a bit more. I want to emphasize how much sharps love Detroit in general this year. They didn’t want for the public to bet a “public team” like Dallas. They were very happy at +3, and the money kept coming in after the move. It has stopped at the current line though, suggesting the percentage value is gone near pick-em. The total has dropped from 47 to 46.
        The fact is you don't even need "proof" from anywhere to understand what was going on with this line. When a sharp book like Pinny opens at -1 instead of -3 it's a clear sign where the early $$ is going.
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        • bobbyk1133
          SBR MVP
          • 08-05-10
          • 2245

          #1159
          Originally posted by LT Profits
          I hear you, but for pure record-keeping purposes, once you pick a source, you have to be consistent with it or the integrity of the numbers gets blown up. From a COMMON SENSE viewpoint, just don't bet Dallas regardless of how it is going to be recorded officially.
          Originally posted by LT Profits
          More of a case of me typing at first impulse without thinking it through first. You are right, if I respect the CRIS opener enough to make me leery enough of Dallas even before the teaser consideration, the best course is to just avoid this game altogether.
          Yes! Common sense. Thank you.
          Pinny is a sharp and good book to use, but ya gotta understand the market as a whole before you declare something as RLM (which obviously you understand). I think you should officially take over this thread so the people following don't stampede off a cliff.
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          • Totolover1409
            SBR MVP
            • 06-14-08
            • 1400

            #1160
            I encourage healthy discussions in this thread. Just don't make it bitchy and personal like other threads become. We're all on the same boat of making money. We all have our own ways. It's good that bobby has a different opinion but don't make it an annoying ass thread like so many other ones by insulting each other.
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            • bobbyk1133
              SBR MVP
              • 08-05-10
              • 2245

              #1161
              Originally posted by Totolover1409
              I encourage healthy discussions in this thread. Just don't make it bitchy and personal like other threads become. We're all on the same boat of making money. We all have our own ways. It's good that bobby has a different opinion but don't make it an annoying ass thread like so many other ones by insulting each other.
              Is that why you rewarded the troll responses with points?

              I'm done with this topic anyways.
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              • RustedVegas
                SBR Hustler
                • 09-03-09
                • 81

                #1162
                Originally posted by bobbyk1133
                Is that why you rewarded the troll responses with points?

                I'm done with this topic anyways.
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                • RustedVegas
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 09-03-09
                  • 81

                  #1163
                  Originally posted by bobbyk1133
                  A better question is to try and find ONE source that has sharps on Dallas.

                  .

                  We have found a source that has sharps on DAL hence the RLM.

                  Nick Bogdanovich doesn't know shit. DET is a square team this year, not a sharp team. DET was a sharp team LAST YEAR!
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                  • 8ArIvd5
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-24-10
                    • 3175

                    #1164
                    i don't see how dal is rlm

                    i see most books at or around the opener.
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                    • Totolover1409
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-14-08
                      • 1400

                      #1165
                      Originally posted by bobbyk1133
                      Is that why you rewarded the troll responses with points?

                      I'm done with this topic anyways.
                      BOL to you bobby
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                      • Totolover1409
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-14-08
                        • 1400

                        #1166
                        Miami +7
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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #1167
                          Keep an eye on Cincinnati and Houston today. They are not quite there yet.
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                          • GGPLAYER
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-26-09
                            • 2981

                            #1168
                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                            Keep an eye on Cincinnati and Houston today. They are not quite there yet.
                            I have been watching Hou all week. It's just off the key number of 3 at 3.5 right now. I know you guys look for that. I'm big on the 1 or more point movement but the public is fav Pitt. I like Hou here.

                            Others I see:
                            Dall
                            AZ
                            Mia
                            Den

                            Oh and I almost forgot about Buffalo...forget RLM. Huge let down spot here. Buffalo as the fav now and they give up over 30 points a game going on the road after the biggest win in like 10 years? I'm a Bills fan but I'm rolling with Cin here.
                            GL guys.
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                            • stickbit
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 03-09-08
                              • 265

                              #1169
                              GG agree with your plays!! Let's cash today!

                              Any of you guys think Jax is a play today? Seems everyone loading up on New Orleans and the line has moved down? Or am I mistaken? Please tell me I'm mistaken because I don't think I can bet the Jags. help!
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                              • GGPLAYER
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-26-09
                                • 2981

                                #1170
                                I would only do Jax in a teaser
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                                • stickbit
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 03-09-08
                                  • 265

                                  #1171
                                  yea line is swinging back up from 7 to 8.5 and 9 now. im staying away from that.
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                                  • Totolover1409
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-14-08
                                    • 1400

                                    #1172
                                    I have NO at -9 now. so no RLM there. I know LT does, but I'm not taking Houston because there's only a half point movement, although on a key number.

                                    Adding: Denver +12
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                                    • chimp
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 01-17-10
                                      • 742

                                      #1173
                                      Rlm 0-4
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                                      • ebbearsfb1
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-07-08
                                        • 18815

                                        #1174
                                        dolphins = epic fail their fg kicker should be the best paid guy on their team
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                                        • Totolover1409
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-14-08
                                          • 1400

                                          #1175
                                          Yep, I'll admit it. I got buried 0-4 this weekend.

                                          Overall 3-6
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                                          • Ras1112
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 09-04-09
                                            • 241

                                            #1176
                                            Epic fail but we have one of those weeks ones in a while, just put it together and I'm sure this week will be much better.
                                            GL!
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                                            • Tanko
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-19-09
                                              • 5143

                                              #1177
                                              Come on Total... Shake it off.... Take a deep breathe... Focus... Lets get it together baby. We got another weekend coming up in just 4 short days.

                                              Originally posted by Totolover1409
                                              Yep, I'll admit it. I got buried 0-4 this weekend.

                                              Overall 3-6
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                                              • GGPLAYER
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-26-09
                                                • 2981

                                                #1178
                                                Originally posted by Totolover1409
                                                Yep, I'll admit it. I got buried 0-4 this weekend.

                                                Overall 3-6

                                                Dallas or should I say Romo basically gave that game away. Pissed me off because I had Dallas -2.5 and Det +9 in a teaser with the over. So basically if they could have held on I would have won on both sides. I do have C. Johnson on my FF team so it was a weird spot for me to be in as I watched the game.

                                                I rolled with Hou since they fell of the key # of 3 and as I mentioned jumped on Cinn so it was not a total disaster for me Sunday. Really disappointed in the Dallas and AZ game. Hard to know what would have happened with Miami if Henne does not go down. Can't cap those things. I still feel RLM is a valuable tool and I'll continue to monitor it.
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                                                • Tanko
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-19-09
                                                  • 5143

                                                  #1179
                                                  You were absolutely right about Romo. Detroits best offense occurred when Romo had the ball.


                                                  Originally posted by GGPLAYER


                                                  Dallas or should I say Romo basically gave that game away. Pissed me off because I had Dallas -2.5 and Det +9 in a teaser with the over. So basically if they could have held on I would have won on both sides. I do have C. Johnson on my FF team so it was a weird spot for me to be in as I watched the game.

                                                  I rolled with Hou since they fell of the key # of 3 and as I mentioned jumped on Cinn so it was not a total disaster for me Sunday. Really disappointed in the Dallas and AZ game. Hard to know what would have happened with Miami if Henne does not go down. Can't cap those things. I still feel RLM is a valuable tool and I'll continue to monitor it.
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                                                  • Totolover1409
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-14-08
                                                    • 1400

                                                    #1180
                                                    Thanks for those who've been supportive. Let's make it happen this weekend!
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                                                    • dodger33
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-14-09
                                                      • 3962

                                                      #1181
                                                      Good weekend for a bounce back!
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                                                      • LT Profits
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-27-06
                                                        • 90963

                                                        #1182
                                                        Watch Oakland, Denver, Chicago
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                                                        • dodger33
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-14-09
                                                          • 3962

                                                          #1183
                                                          NCAA has 4 or 5 potentials as well. Penn State and Wake Forest leading the way.
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                                                          • DeluxeLiner
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-29-08
                                                            • 4132

                                                            #1184
                                                            Whats up with the Denver line this week? Why has it moved two points? Injuries or some other factor?
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                                                            • PAULYPOKER
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 12-06-08
                                                              • 36581

                                                              #1185
                                                              Carolina Panthers +6.5 = WINNER
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                                                              • GGPLAYER
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-26-09
                                                                • 2981

                                                                #1186
                                                                I'm seeing RLM up and down the board. As someone mentioned the Denver line is screaming RLM. The action is all over SD and yet the line has come down 2 points. I'm also watching....

                                                                AZ - yeah I know they screwed us last week but the line has fallen off the key # of 3.
                                                                Buf - Line move from 3 to 2
                                                                Oak - Again off the key number of #7. Full point RLM here and I like Oakland in this spot anyways
                                                                Car - Yet again movement off the key number of 7.
                                                                Sea- Very small move but one to watch
                                                                SF - Right now the it's heavy on TB but the line is improving for them.
                                                                Chi - Det is the "public darling" right now and the books will cash in on them soon enough.

                                                                Interesting to see where these all end up on Sun/Mon.
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                                                                • DarkNite
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 10-12-09
                                                                  • 5023

                                                                  #1187
                                                                  Originally posted by dodger33
                                                                  NCAA has 4 or 5 potentials as well. Penn State and Wake Forest leading the way.
                                                                  Akron
                                                                  Indiana
                                                                  Rutgers
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                                                                  • Totolover1409
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 06-14-08
                                                                    • 1400

                                                                    #1188
                                                                    As of now, I'm see Denver that satisfies the criteria for RLM and the Bears.

                                                                    All other plays mentioned by GGPLAYER are looking pretty good. We'll just have to wait and see.
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                                                                    • GGPLAYER
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-26-09
                                                                      • 2981

                                                                      #1189
                                                                      Originally posted by DeluxeLiner
                                                                      Whats up with the Denver line this week? Why has it moved two points? Injuries or some other factor?
                                                                      Ok this one is out of hand. It's down to 3.5 now?? I think I may jump on it now before it moves anymore!
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                                                                      • Capybara
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 08-17-08
                                                                        • 11803

                                                                        #1190
                                                                        Originally posted by GGPLAYER
                                                                        Ok this one is out of hand. It's down to 3.5 now?? I think I may jump on it now before it moves anymore!
                                                                        Yeah, think value may be gone. Big-ass move.
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