On A post recently i asked for somone to work to hit 70% in football pro and college everyone laughed said it cant be done........well i will show all of the one's that said it cant be done that it can...... i will post everygame that i will give my clients on here and i will hit 70 % ats of my plays ....proof is in the pudding and from now on i will stay on this post and post my games my first game,,,,,IS THE RAIDERS +1 THIS WILL BE MY OFFICIAL OPENING GAME TO SHOW ALL THE NAYSAYERS IT CANT BE DONE,,,I WILL SHOW YOU WITH DIDICATION AND INSIGHT AND PROPER KNOWLEDGE OF EACH TEAM AND THERE TENDENCIES IN ALL SITUATIONS ....MY GOAL IS TO HIT OVER 70 %FOR THE YEAR,,,,,,,,,I KNOW MY SPELLING SUCKS ...BEAR WITH ME ON THIS I WILL JUST GIVE OUT MY GAMES TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY BUT I DO BELIEVE WITH PROPER FOCUS THE % CAN BE ACHIEVED........LET THE GAMES BEGIN ...PLEASE NO BASHING .....LET ME JUST DO MY JOB AND FOCUS ON WINNING........THANK YOU......nflwins.
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Thank you for doing it! Best of luck!Comment -
thank you ,,,,a gentemen and a scholar,,,did i spell that right ....Comment -
Good luck!Comment -
this thread will be dead by week 6...
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Best of luck to ya. I would love to see you prove everyone wrong, because then I might tail you and make some money!
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PRetty hard to hit above 65% ATS/Totals, best of luckComment -
ell here is my complete board for SATURDAY EACH TEAM IS RATED THE SAME ,,,,,,THE RAMS +_ 3.5 THE LIONS +3... THE JETS +1.5 THE RAIDERS +1 THOSE ARE MY PLAYS FOR WEEKComment -
man who is doing write-up for your clients??? it should be 200 people right??Comment -
My secratary works from home and calls some and emails most about 75 % are emailed the rest she calls they will not go online for anything.... There old timers they bet big so you have to do it the way they want it,,,,but i only speak to them when it is time for money each client is a different animal... I try to make it one price for all some pay up front for the season.... Some pay on a per net per winner basis.... Some pay on aweekly basis some pay on a monthly..... Took me 5 years of hard work to get all of theses guys i used to talk to all... Now i wont babysit them anymore ......i just have to focus on each team and not let the hype and the post in here pursuade my picks it's hard some here are very good..... But i have to do what i know works. Well back to work,Comment -
I disagree i spend a lot of money with database's on all sports with programmers that are very good in taking info i give them and finding what works.....see i know if you out work the linesmaker ,,,,or i should not say out work,,,no one is smarter then the lines maker... A lot of it comes down to understading the lines maker... And not disagreeing with him but knowing what he is telling us.... And agreeing when he opens a moneyline to light or to heavy....... Someteams he is right on the number..... Someteams he is never close to the line,,,,knowledge of all of theses things help's but the most important factor is team by team what is there weakness and strength are once you know those factors it gives you a guidline to start to cap that game..... Each team is it own matrix and you must never treat anyteam has the norm,,,,,each team is unigue in it way of getting to where it go's to in covering and not covering spreads.......my office in my home has over 3000 stats on each team everyplay ever in college and pro from around 1960 on i am a student of sports and why teams do what they do... My wife says i am insane for numbers and theory of numbers using yhe bell curve theory in perdicding sports.... I try to look at each angle of a game on the field and off the field my results seem to be very good when i focus ,,,if iam not focused with playing golf every day or going out with the boys partying i dont do well i have to eat sleep drink this to be succesful.. But i have great motivation from this site it has rejuiced me to hit my best % ever i really will didicate my self this year with no distractions in capping my games... I do most of my work in the middle of the night the house is nice and quiet. Well time to cap somemore.Comment -
2011 NFL: 4-0 ATS
2010 NFL: 21-31 ATS (Stopped after Week 12)
2009 NFL: 55-30-1 ATS
2008 NFL: 57-36-2 ATS
Overall: 137-97-3 ATSComment -
I was wondering when the other shoe was going to drop on the "who can pick 70%" thread.
Is this going to be a "hope I run hot and can sell people on my tout service" scam or a "live out my Fantasy on a forum" thread?Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.Comment -
2011 NFL: 4-0 ATS
2010 NFL: 21-31 ATS (Stopped after Week 12)
2009 NFL: 55-30-1 ATS
2008 NFL: 57-36-2 ATS
Overall: 137-97-3 ATSComment -
gee you scared me there kroyrunner ...but no harm no foul...........by the way,,,,,,since i am trying to hit all football at 70 % i know this is a pro forum but i will also post my college games here so evreyone knows exactly each game,,,,,,,,,i am playing MISS ST-20.5 VS MEMPHIS.....AND FLORIDA -35....VS MIAMI OF OHIO....ALONG WITH THE PRO GAMES SO FAR ,,,,,and to your question yes my clients would be pissed if they saw me posting games they pay for for free but i want to prove to all the naysayers that say 70 % cant be hit i think i can do it and i will this will be my best year ever in capping all of football..i will post my totals later.Comment -
BOL on your picks Mr. Wins!!!!
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my database's just kicked out some crazy stat thats since 2000 in pre season any team to have scored more then 24 points that means 25 points and higher i has ever scored more points then there next game ,,,,example......2009 6 teams scored more then 24 points not one team scored more points the next week,,,,that goes on for every year going back to 2000 there have been 40 teams score more then 24 points in week 1 of pre season,,,,,not one of those teams the next week scored ...week 2 scored more points in week 1 and only 3 teams since 2000 if scoring more then 24 points scored more then 24 points in week 2.......the pats the other night was the first team in over a decade to score more points going over 24 in game 1 with 27 and game 2 28 points..........so dont loook for teams thast scored abunch to match that philly showed us that tonight. i ill have the database look up what teams do scoring less then 10 points in week 1 to week 2 till then keep smiling....
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to answer fishmonger yes all games i post go to my hitting 70 %.....and to i cancount to 1,,,,,,,,,,i will hit 70% not wishing to i will work hard to achieve what i know to be .......by the way i can count to 1 your plays dont look so good play my games and make your self somemoney then go out and buy yourself a personality.......with games like yours you need help!Comment -
How many plays are you playing each week? If it is 4 or more like you have today then there is no way you will do it.
Best of luck though.Comment -
office pool the numbers tell me when to play i have no opinion i let the numbers speak to me and they say play me play me and i plat those numbers.......seriously i have no clue i play when it looks like i can win.Comment -
I love your trend that you posted earlier....How do you plan on using it? Totals or Sides?
I still think you will never hit 70% and if you really could you should be a enjoying your million dollars instead of posting on a FREE forum. If your goal was to get people to follow your thread i think you have succeeded as people love to watch others fail.
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has people love to watch people fail i love to prove iam right,,,,,,,,,iam including a play along with miss st and florida,,,,,,,oregon has 10 offense starters with there qb back + mew mexico has only 5 on offense and 5 on defense there offense was horrible last year 112 passing eff rating they gave up 3.5 sacks per game they are 110 in def vs the rush..... oregon -34,,,,,,,Comment -
i am including oregon -34 vs new mexico.......new mexico has only 5 returning on off and defense,,,last year they were 122 th in the nation on passing eff....110 in defense vs the rush,,,they gave up 3.5 sacks pergame....oregon has 10 starters coming back +there qb on offense i am laying the 34 here to go with miss st- 20.5......florida-35........pro's for saturday i am including carolina +1.5 vs the jets who played monday and are now going on the road to a team that played on thursday and kept the ravens to 17 points so the raiders +1 the rams +3.5....the lions +3.....and the panthers +1.5....i will have totals later.Comment -
Totals or Sides with this trend? Also why aren't the teams that fit this trend in your plays for week 2. I like the trend but I am confused about your picks? Are you using this trend or not? Anyway, good luck.my database's just kicked out some crazy stat thats since 2000 in pre season any team to have scored more then 24 points that means 25 points and higher i has ever scored more points then there next game ,,,,example......2009 6 teams scored more then 24 points not one team scored more points the next week,,,,that goes on for every year going back to 2000 there have been 40 teams score more then 24 points in week 1 of pre season,,,,,not one of those teams the next week scored ...week 2 scored more points in week 1 and only 3 teams since 2000 if scoring more then 24 points scored more then 24 points in week 2.......the pats the other night was the first team in over a decade to score more points going over 24 in game 1 with 27 and game 2 28 points..........so dont loook for teams thast scored abunch to match that philly showed us that tonight. i ill have the database look up what teams do scoring less then 10 points in week 1 to week 2 till then keep smiling....Comment -
i might use the trend for my totals if the databse's i use show it to be,,,,,my programmimg gives me the best % of ats with all of the data thats in there the one's with the best are the games i metioned trends are fine but i dont get to carried away with trends they will break you faster then yul brenner lost his hair.Comment -
BOL with this.Comment -
All you have given us is trends...Things that apply to only one week are trends because the next week you need to find new trends to use...A system you can use week in and week out (power rankings can be used as a system). What is your system? Or do you use trends each week?Comment -
my system is very complex it has many situtational scenario's depending on what went on the field the week prior and weeks past and if there are an situtiations simailar featuered to warrant it has ats play.....the database's are not a perdiction but a corralition of lines and totals together in most all scenarios of a game and it's % of ats wins and losses.....to put it simply i have no clue how it works i just hit some buttons and poof out come the winnersComment -
Has my data bases come up with teams that gave up more then 30 and on offense made less then 20. Last year........i will bet againts all of those teams they are rice...w.ky...,sj.st....wash st..., e.mich,,,,,memphis..., new mexico ,,,,,,,,so included in my plays are texas,,,,,,nebraska,,,,,,,,,alabama,,,,, ,,,,okie st......army,,,,,,florida.......miss st......oregon.......Comment -
Nflwins this is an interesting thread. As you state you are successful, but now posting plays for free, I am wondering your intentions. You could prove 70 percent to your clients. Be that as it may, I will follow you.
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I'm always looking for some one that can win nlfwins, how long have u been in business??????? get with it and make some money!!!!are u a action player or a advantage player??? GL2USALL!!!Comment -
When i am giving my games out for $$$ each client gets the same games.... If the player is a 5 dime player or a 100 dollar player . I do have a select group of players that are 2 nd half bettors.... Also these are the players that are on a per net winners or a cash %basis usaully i make someone 5 dimes for the week it pays me around a dime playing 2nd half's..... Can put in in a lot of middle's situation's in play.... Also i have around 15 systems i play for the 2nd half like the 2-1 ratio system or one that i play on totals is the 80 % total system.... If 80 %of a total is made by the first half i then will go the opposite way in the second half example a total is 47 and at the half 80 %of that total has been scored then i will play the under on the second half....same with the over for the second half lets say a total is 47 again and only 20 %of that total has been scored..... Then in the 2nd half i will play the over...i am a value player the only way to beat the linesmaker is to manipulate the number all pro's try to manipulate the number if it be playing 21 craps roulette betting sports it is the only way to make money betting you cannot beat any form of gambling without manipulation.or like in the old days having a fixed game or fixed horse race was always a nice way to beat the book.Comment -
I love new members/anyone who claims wins wins winsComment
