Bankers throwin darts at the 2014 NFL season..

[2daBank]

2 team 6 point teaser (2x)

atl pk
indy-.5

pretty self explanatory as there nothing bout this every square in the world wont like including myself,, not exactly high on atl, the d leaves plenty to be desired and i dunno if they anything more than a 9-7 type team , still not sure what bucs are so there some unknown here for me but really just playing the percentages to try and wrap up the 1st leg of this thing. the percentages are this, home team wins this gm 67% of the time, matty ice at home has a incredibly high win percentage, dont know the exact number but i know before last year it was insane and last year had a lot of extenuating circumstances. so i guess do the math it has to come out to this being a really high percentage play..

colts gm what should i say? who here believes luck drops to 0-3 vs the fukkin jags? i certainly dont,, maybe its close, maybe its not but if i can get through the thu night gm im not sweating this one., if it loses fukk it i suppose cause i dont see it...

[2daBank]

ok guys dont make too much fun of me for this 1st play, 1st play last week was titans and we know how that turned out, lol

NYG ml +115 (2x).. only reason this the 1st play im posting cause i just read a little conversation bout it over at ctg so it peaked my interest and i started looking into this one then added my 2 cents.. you can go look at the week 3 discussion thread at ctg to see the conversation if interested but ill tell ya what i found that makes me like gmen in this gm even tho ive been on record calling them stir fried shit since before the start of season..think this team will start to evolve from total trash into mediocre much like half the teams in league, the run defense has been solid only allowing 3.4 ypc and that isnt a drastic change from last year as they held teams to a respectable 3.8, lets be real clear a fitzpatrick lead team no matter how good the d is really shouldnt be laying points on the road, maybe to the raiders but that cause the matchup set up really well for foster to do work and the d to dominate a rookie qb and shit run gm,, this week gmen take away foster and fitzpatrick turns into the guy that has one of his ugly 4 pick games several times a year.. on the other side hou d while very good has given up a league worst 5.8 ypc so far this season , obviously that number will come down but this was a team that ranked in the bottom 3rd last season. hou is great at taking away deep throws with their rush and the back end, normally a good trait but the idea of this new offense is short quick drops dinking and dunking, eli looked better in the second half last week against a very good zona secondary and think this gm kinda sets up well for him to build on that, hopefully this week his wrs wont be surprised when he actually makes a good throw and are ready to catch it!! i know giants have looked bad and maybe they are, hell ive said as much and worse. but in the nfl i subscribe to the theory no team really as bad or good as ppl tend to believe they are..

bucs/atl ov 45 (1x)..i know this play is gonna surprise the shit out of anyone that been around my threads the last 3 years and believe me this aint easy going from almost exclusively betting 1st half unders in the thu night shitfest to betting the over here. the reasoning for me is simple, i think this number kinda low based off what the bucs offense has looked like thus far, ill be the 1st to admit im not really sure what the bucs offense is as of yet, they have looked bad no doubt, they have also faced a panthers d that i think is indisputably one of the best in the league and a lambs d that while ive mentioned a ton i think is horrid against the run but still a above avg d that def better than the falcons unit imo. what i do know is bucs d has not impressed me at all, they are giving up a ridiculous 73% completion rate, allowing a 104 qb rating, rank in the bottom 3rd in yards per attempt, and havnt been getting to the qb, all these ugly numbers were allowed vs 2nd and 3rd string qbs with below avg weapons. so i ask you what do you think matty ice and his band or wrs gonna do in the dome when they spread this team out and run no huddle? i think the most likely answer has to be they gonna light it up to the tune of 5-6 scoring chances that end in at least 3 tds and a couple fgs, so lets say 27 and i consider that the low end.. that leaves us thinking if bucs give us 17 that may be enough but 20 will for sure do it imo, i just dont think that asking to much against a atl defense that im confident they can get the ground gm going which should leave one on one opportunities for those massive wrs, i know lovie ball is conservative to a disgusting fault but banking on the atl offense being respected enough or just simply scoring and forcing bucs to open up a little bit which good news against a atl defense allowing the most yards per pass attempt in the league. i think this will be the week vjax has one of those monster vjax games we accustomed to seeing from time to time after a couple quite weeks..CANT STRESS ENOUGH I HATE THE IDEA OF A OVER ON THU NIGHT which only reason im keeping this to 1 unit as normally if my low end of total is 2 points higher than the number id make it a 1.5 or 2 unit bet..

2 team 6 point teaser (2x)

atl pk
indy-.5

pretty self explanatory as there nothing bout this every square in the world wont like including myself,, not exactly high on atl, the d leaves plenty to be desired and i dunno if they anything more than a 9-7 type team , still not sure what bucs are so there some unknown here for me but really just playing the percentages to try and wrap up the 1st leg of this thing. the percentages are this, home team wins this gm 67% of the time, matty ice at home has a incredibly high win percentage, dont know the exact number but i know before last year it was insane and last year had a lot of extenuating circumstances. so i guess do the math it has to come out to this being a really high percentage play..

colts gm what should i say? who here believes luck drops to 0-3 vs the fukkin jags? i certainly dont,, maybe its close, maybe its not but if i can get through the thu night gm im not sweating this one., if it loses fukk it i suppose cause i dont see it...

sd/buf un 45 (1.5x).. i made this 41-43 point range, i have little to no doubt both teams can move the ball a little, bills are gonna be able to run and run effectively in this contest vs a chargers d that has allowed a pretty healthy ypc last season and that has continued thus far this season. thing about bills and ej is a lot like geno (both young qbs i kinda like more than most) they struggle with efficiency in the red zone, bills were bad in this area last season and as of now dont look to be improved at all converting a very low rate of their chances into tds. so when bills on offense i expect lots of rushing with success between the 20s which leads to drives that even if they do finish will be time consuming and i expect they dont convert more than half their opportunities in this one.. when chargers have the ball i expect rivers to have his moments connecting with keenan allen, however bills allow one of the lowest yards per attempt and avg yards per completion so i suspect rivers makes his hey on shorter routes that extend drives and allow sd to do what they do best and control the gm with time consuming drives keeping their d on the sideline, bills have doen a good job of getting teams off the field on 3rd downs so i feel as if chargers dives will stall out once crossing midfield on several occasions, and again on the scoring drives i expect a good 5-7 minutes to be taken off the clock. think this a field position type gm where the clock will be running a great deal of the time, i envision this being the 1st gm to go final of the early starts, if that the case we should be talking bout a gm with a 21-20/23-20 type of score..

[2daBank]

strongly considering rest of these..

donks/sea un 48.5...i made several points lower but scary.
chi/nyj ov 45.5.. another square mon night over i think cashes
lions-2.5..different team at home and think the front 4 gives pack problems and det will have success on ground and air..
skins+6.5.. would love 7 but i actually think skins can win this gm..
ravens..when dont i consider them? ugh
panthers-3.5.. think pit outclassed in this gm and panthers a bad matchup as they should own the lines of scrimmage

gotta go to work tonight then sunday morning last 2 real chances ill have to discuss this weeks card,, have a busy weekend planned as my 13th anniversary is on monday so doing bunch of stuff with the wifey,, hot air balloon thingy at forest park fri night (def for her), cards gm again on Sat night (more for me!), plus im sure gonna have to spring for a dinner or some sorts.. anyway as always thoughts, questions, comments welcome.. talk with ya'll later on..

[survive]

Congrats! Enjoy it man. I'm stuck on MIA -4.5 vs kc for my pick em pool...I really don't have a strong read on it

[BeanTownClown88]

Atl should put a hurting on TB tonight. The offense is really rolling and the Bucs can't put up more than 20

[GIVEMETHEMONEY]

strongly considering rest of these..

donks/sea un 48.5...i made several points lower but scary.
chi/nyj ov 45.5.. another square mon night over i think cashes
lions-2.5..different team at home and think the front 4 gives pack problems and det will have success on ground and air..
skins+6.5.. would love 7 but i actually think skins can win this gm..
ravens..when dont i consider them? ugh
panthers-3.5.. think pit outclassed in this gm and panthers a bad matchup as they should own the lines of scrimmage

gotta go to work tonight then sunday morning last 2 real chances ill have to discuss this weeks card,, have a busy weekend planned as my 13th anniversary is on monday so doing bunch of stuff with the wifey,, hot air balloon thingy at forest park fri night (def for her), cards gm again on Sat night (more for me!), plus im sure gonna have to spring for a dinner or some sorts.. anyway as always thoughts, questions, comments welcome.. talk with ya'll later on..

Congratulations on your 13th anniversary!

Enjoy!

[chabooky386]

bol man! always enjoy your input and thoughts on games brotha!

[biglance68]

Auburn/Falcons ML Parlay $$$$$$$

[SmittyZ28]

Love the Flacons TT over, leaning the game over as well, great write up on the total. These two defensive lines might be the worst in the league, both QBs are going to have a ton of time and Tampa will rush for at least 170 as a team. J.M. has been turning the ball over and I see no reason why that won't continue, should see a defensive or special teams set up for a TD.

On ATL -6 as well. Good luck people

[KRIT]

I think ATL tries to put up a good show on national tv tonight The big key for them is they get LT Jake Matthews back. I think they are moving Carimi to RT and benching Holmes, which should help too. Can't get much worst than Holmes. Ryan needs a clean pocket to be effective, he isn't Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. I expect him to have time to throw tonight, Falcons should put up points tonight. Like Smitty, I'm leaning towards just taking the Falcons TT Over.

[2daBank]

i just dont see much reason to leave bucs out of the equation? im pretty confident they provide at least 20, they have the weapons on the outside and a run gm capable of exploiting this atl d (dont care who the rb is, actually would rather martin sat so i could use rainey in daily leagues, lol).. oh wow, just got home and see the total jumped up quite a bit,, not sure it means anything but always happy when i get the better of the number ... id still play it at 47 or less, that where i would stop tho. 47 was the low end of my number..

[2daBank]

Congratulations on your 13th anniversary!

Enjoy!

thanks.. would have never thought when i was younger there was any chance i ended up being with the same woman for most of my adult life, and from the looks of it really was "till death do we part" (or however that goes, i was pretty lit up at the time, lol).. kinda cool yet a little depressing at the same time ..i kid of coarse, she a lucky girl!

in all seriousness i got very lucky, or maybe i just know how to pick winners either way not sure anyone should be expected to have the patients, understanding, and tolerance for my shenanigans that somehow my wife has managed to take in stride all this time.. she must really love me cause i couldnt tolerate me! so i guess we were both lucky, percentages say we the exception not the rule....

[killersweet]

Good luck tonight banker. like that teaser a lot

[terrortwylight]

good luck banker. i'm on ATL pk and the over 40 in a couple teasers with Auburn-1.5. let's get it.

[2daBank]

wow what a ass kicking that was!! atl covers the over on their own, didnt expect their d to look that good but we knew matty ice was gonna pick apart a tb team that has allowed a couple backups to complete 73% of their passes, no surprise that ryan threw as many tds as balls that hit the ground, lol... just happy to have been able to get myself to play the over, not sure ive ever done that on thu night before so glad it worked out..doubt the other half of the teaser goes this smoothly but wouldnt be surprised if indy laid one on the jags..

[KRIT]

What do you make of the SB rematch. I like Seahawks, might take an alt. spread on them too.

[2daBank]

What do you make of the SB rematch. I like Seahawks, might take an alt. spread on them too.

i dunno, prob a stay away gm for me.. kinda like the under but im never real comfortable playing under in den games plus sea generally scores quite a bit at home..im certainly not gonna try and talk you off seachickens in sea and off a loss, probably bout as good as you can get situationally. i loved them in superbowl last year so i dunno why im not excited bout backing them at home this week? guess i think their d not quite as good presently and donks is probably better than last years. really think den improved all around from the sb so hard for me to wanna fade them getting points but again no interest in backing them either.

[ram1502]

Agree with you on panthers bank. Steelers looked old and slow and pretty much disinterested somehow against balty and that wont work this week. GL sir

[2daBank]

NYG ml +115 (2x).. only reason this the 1st play im posting cause i just read a little conversation bout it over at ctg so it peaked my interest and i started looking into this one then added my 2 cents.. you can go look at the week 3 discussion thread at ctg to see the conversation if interested but ill tell ya what i found that makes me like gmen in this gm even tho ive been on record calling them stir fried shit since before the start of season..think this team will start to evolve from total trash into mediocre much like half the teams in league, the run defense has been solid only allowing 3.4 ypc and that isnt a drastic change from last year as they held teams to a respectable 3.8, lets be real clear a fitzpatrick lead team no matter how good the d is really shouldnt be laying points on the road, maybe to the raiders but that cause the matchup set up really well for foster to do work and the d to dominate a rookie qb and shit run gm,, this week gmen take away foster and fitzpatrick turns into the guy that has one of his ugly 4 pick games several times a year.. on the other side hou d while very good has given up a league worst 5.8 ypc so far this season , obviously that number will come down but this was a team that ranked in the bottom 3rd last season. hou is great at taking away deep throws with their rush and the back end, normally a good trait but the idea of this new offense is short quick drops dinking and dunking, eli looked better in the second half last week against a very good zona secondary and think this gm kinda sets up well for him to build on that, hopefully this week his wrs wont be surprised when he actually makes a good throw and are ready to catch it!! i know giants have looked bad and maybe they are, hell ive said as much and worse. but in the nfl i subscribe to the theory no team really as bad or good as ppl tend to believe they are..


bucs/atl ov 45 (1x)..i know this play is gonna surprise the shit out of anyone that been around my threads the last 3 years and believe me this aint easy going from almost exclusively betting 1st half unders in the thu night shitfest to betting the over here. the reasoning for me is simple, i think this number kinda low based off what the bucs offense has looked like thus far, ill be the 1st to admit im not really sure what the bucs offense is as of yet, they have looked bad no doubt, they have also faced a panthers d that i think is indisputably one of the best in the league and a lambs d that while ive mentioned a ton i think is horrid against the run but still a above avg d that def better than the falcons unit imo. what i do know is bucs d has not impressed me at all, they are giving up a ridiculous 73% completion rate, allowing a 104 qb rating, rank in the bottom 3rd in yards per attempt, and havnt been getting to the qb, all these ugly numbers were allowed vs 2nd and 3rd string qbs with below avg weapons. so i ask you what do you think matty ice and his band or wrs gonna do in the dome when they spread this team out and run no huddle? i think the most likely answer has to be they gonna light it up to the tune of 5-6 scoring chances that end in at least 3 tds and a couple fgs, so lets say 27 and i consider that the low end.. that leaves us thinking if bucs give us 17 that may be enough but 20 will for sure do it imo, i just dont think that asking to much against a atl defense that im confident they can get the ground gm going which should leave one on one opportunities for those massive wrs, i know lovie ball is conservative to a disgusting fault but banking on the atl offense being respected enough or just simply scoring and forcing bucs to open up a little bit which good news against a atl defense allowing the most yards per pass attempt in the league. i think this will be the week vjax has one of those monster vjax games we accustomed to seeing from time to time after a couple quite weeks..CANT STRESS ENOUGH I HATE THE IDEA OF A OVER ON THU NIGHT which only reason im keeping this to 1 unit as normally if my low end of total is 2 points higher than the number id make it a 1.5 or 2 unit bet..

2 team 6 point teaser (2x)

atl pk
indy-.5

pretty self explanatory as there nothing bout this every square in the world wont like including myself,, not exactly high on atl, the d leaves plenty to be desired and i dunno if they anything more than a 9-7 type team , still not sure what bucs are so there some unknown here for me but really just playing the percentages to try and wrap up the 1st leg of this thing. the percentages are this, home team wins this gm 67% of the time, matty ice at home has a incredibly high win percentage, dont know the exact number but i know before last year it was insane and last year had a lot of extenuating circumstances. so i guess do the math it has to come out to this being a really high percentage play..

colts gm what should i say? who here believes luck drops to 0-3 vs the fukkin jags? i certainly dont,, maybe its close, maybe its not but if i can get through the thu night gm im not sweating this one., if it loses fukk it i suppose cause i dont see it...



sd/buf un 45 (1.5x).. i made this 41-43 point range, i have little to no doubt both teams can move the ball a little, bills are gonna be able to run and run effectively in this contest vs a chargers d that has allowed a pretty healthy ypc last season and that has continued thus far this season. thing about bills and ej is a lot like geno (both young qbs i kinda like more than most) they struggle with efficiency in the red zone, bills were bad in this area last season and as of now dont look to be improved at all converting a very low rate of their chances into tds. so when bills on offense i expect lots of rushing with success between the 20s which leads to drives that even if they do finish will be time consuming and i expect they dont convert more than half their opportunities in this one.. when chargers have the ball i expect rivers to have his moments connecting with keenan allen, however bills allow one of the lowest yards per attempt and avg yards per completion so i suspect rivers makes his hey on shorter routes that extend drives and allow sd to do what they do best and control the gm with time consuming drives keeping their d on the sideline, bills have doen a good job of getting teams off the field on 3rd downs so i feel as if chargers dives will stall out once crossing midfield on several occasions, and again on the scoring drives i expect a good 5-7 minutes to be taken off the clock. think this a field position type gm where the clock will be running a great deal of the time, i envision this being the 1st gm to go final of the early starts, if that the case we should be talking bout a gm with a 21-20/23-20 type of score..

skins+6.5 (1.5x)..gonna just copy and paste what i wrote discussing this gm at ctg the other day so if anything sounds like im responding to someone that is why

im not real convinced that phi is equipped with wrs able to expose secondaries like they were when djax was there.. hasnt mattered yet as they have faced a couple creampuff defenses, i think there gonna come a time when teams flatten their defense out (i guess that the best way to put it) and play them like they already in the red zone, a place phi struggles. if im dc facing them that what i do, take away the width of the field by bringing my safties up in almost a 46 look and force foles to connect with macklin and cooper over the top cause his deep ball doesnt scare me and those wrs dont either (etrz however could be the answer for that from phi standpoint). possible im wrong and they then get a bunch of big plays but id have to see it to believe it cause i know what happens when you let them get off in the zone read and screen gm, yet to see anything from the qb/wrs that scary so that who im making beat me..

ive been of the opinion skins d has improved and thus far they appear to have, however im not oblivious to the fact the same argument about level of competition can be used that i used about the eagles offense/wr corp. they just havnt seen a talented enough passing offense for me to know to what extent they have improved.. the one thing i do believe about this gm is that as long as skins avoid the starts they had against phi last season i think morris and the offense can dictate this gm to a extent.. the 1st meeting wasnt really fair cause no1 had seen what philly put on them week 1 last season so i think you gotta kinda overlook that gm imo.. i just watched a colts team that aint exactly known for their smash mouth run gm (even tho their moron oc likes to think they are) whip phi at the line of scrimmage to the degree a terrible rb with no vision actually found some holes, gotta believe morris is licking his chops.. i thought this was a runaway div for eagles right up until the point rg3 went down, now i actually think skins can give phi a run for their money in the nfc least.. i could be dead wrong (wouldnt be the 1st time and sadly wont be the last either) but i really like the points and have even been strongly considering sprinkling the ml,, a skins fan at my work told me i was crazy today when i told him that, maybe i am. i think morris goes for 100+ with a couple scores and djax makes them pay once or twice for kicking him to the curb while labeling him a gang banger, he hasnt had a breakout gm yet this year and while he certainly has flaws he not the kind of guy that can be held down forever w/o severely weakening other parts of the field.. i do think skins front 7 is solid enough to take away some of the stuff phi wants to do and eagles have really struggled cashing in red zone chances, as long as skins force some fgs i think that will allow them to continue pounding morris then taking shots when phi is forced to creep up.

[2daBank]

Agree with you on panthers bank. Steelers looked old and slow and pretty much disinterested somehow against balty and that wont work this week. GL sir

even with all the rules favoring offense i still value defense a lot and there a huge gap between these 2 defenses..the pit run d that was talked up as improved in the off season still looks weak to me, think panthers can do work on the ground. saw a crazy stat somewhere about panthers 1st halves, something like they havnt trailed at half in BkofAma stadium since week 10 of 2012 and have only allowed 1 td in the last 9 1st halves played there! that insane, think im taking panthers 1st half, lol...

[ram1502]

even with all the rules favoring offense i still value defense a lot and there a huge gap between these 2 defenses..the pit run d that was talked up as improved in the off season still looks weak to me, think panthers can do work on the ground. saw a crazy stat somewhere about panthers 1st halves, something like they havnt trailed at half in BkofAma stadium since week 10 of 2012 and have only allowed 1 td in the last 9 1st halves played there! that insane, think im taking panthers 1st half, lol...

Lol I think I'll take that too. Thanks for pointing that out! Love the thread by the way. So much info and analysis in here. Its awesome

[2daBank]

Lol I think I'll take that too. Thanks for pointing that out! Love the thread by the way. So much info and analysis in here. Its awesome

thanks for the kind words brother. i do my best, glad you enjoy it..

[2daBank]

NYG ml +115 (2x).. only reason this the 1st play im posting cause i just read a little conversation bout it over at ctg so it peaked my interest and i started looking into this one then added my 2 cents.. you can go look at the week 3 discussion thread at ctg to see the conversation if interested but ill tell ya what i found that makes me like gmen in this gm even tho ive been on record calling them stir fried shit since before the start of season..think this team will start to evolve from total trash into mediocre much like half the teams in league, the run defense has been solid only allowing 3.4 ypc and that isnt a drastic change from last year as they held teams to a respectable 3.8, lets be real clear a fitzpatrick lead team no matter how good the d is really shouldnt be laying points on the road, maybe to the raiders but that cause the matchup set up really well for foster to do work and the d to dominate a rookie qb and shit run gm,, this week gmen take away foster and fitzpatrick turns into the guy that has one of his ugly 4 pick games several times a year.. on the other side hou d while very good has given up a league worst 5.8 ypc so far this season , obviously that number will come down but this was a team that ranked in the bottom 3rd last season. hou is great at taking away deep throws with their rush and the back end, normally a good trait but the idea of this new offense is short quick drops dinking and dunking, eli looked better in the second half last week against a very good zona secondary and think this gm kinda sets up well for him to build on that, hopefully this week his wrs wont be surprised when he actually makes a good throw and are ready to catch it!! i know giants have looked bad and maybe they are, hell ive said as much and worse. but in the nfl i subscribe to the theory no team really as bad or good as ppl tend to believe they are..



2 team 6 point teaser (2x)

atl pk
indy-.5

pretty self explanatory as there nothing bout this every square in the world wont like including myself,, not exactly high on atl, the d leaves plenty to be desired and i dunno if they anything more than a 9-7 type team , still not sure what bucs are so there some unknown here for me but really just playing the percentages to try and wrap up the 1st leg of this thing. the percentages are this, home team wins this gm 67% of the time, matty ice at home has a incredibly high win percentage, dont know the exact number but i know before last year it was insane and last year had a lot of extenuating circumstances. so i guess do the math it has to come out to this being a really high percentage play..

colts gm what should i say? who here believes luck drops to 0-3 vs the fukkin jags? i certainly dont,, maybe its close, maybe its not but if i can get through the thu night gm im not sweating this one., if it loses fukk it i suppose cause i dont see it...



sd/buf un 45 (1.5x).. i made this 41-43 point range, i have little to no doubt both teams can move the ball a little, bills are gonna be able to run and run effectively in this contest vs a chargers d that has allowed a pretty healthy ypc last season and that has continued thus far this season. thing about bills and ej is a lot like geno (both young qbs i kinda like more than most) they struggle with efficiency in the red zone, bills were bad in this area last season and as of now dont look to be improved at all converting a very low rate of their chances into tds. so when bills on offense i expect lots of rushing with success between the 20s which leads to drives that even if they do finish will be time consuming and i expect they dont convert more than half their opportunities in this one.. when chargers have the ball i expect rivers to have his moments connecting with keenan allen, however bills allow one of the lowest yards per attempt and avg yards per completion so i suspect rivers makes his hey on shorter routes that extend drives and allow sd to do what they do best and control the gm with time consuming drives keeping their d on the sideline, bills have doen a good job of getting teams off the field on 3rd downs so i feel as if chargers dives will stall out once crossing midfield on several occasions, and again on the scoring drives i expect a good 5-7 minutes to be taken off the clock. think this a field position type gm where the clock will be running a great deal of the time, i envision this being the 1st gm to go final of the early starts, if that the case we should be talking bout a gm with a 21-20/23-20 type of score..


skins+6.5 (1.5x)..gonna just copy and paste what i wrote discussing this gm at ctg the other day so if anything sounds like im responding to someone that is why

im not real convinced that phi is equipped with wrs able to expose secondaries like they were when djax was there.. hasnt mattered yet as they have faced a couple creampuff defenses, i think there gonna come a time when teams flatten their defense out (i guess that the best way to put it) and play them like they already in the red zone, a place phi struggles. if im dc facing them that what i do, take away the width of the field by bringing my safties up in almost a 46 look and force foles to connect with macklin and cooper over the top cause his deep ball doesnt scare me and those wrs dont either (etrz however could be the answer for that from phi standpoint). possible im wrong and they then get a bunch of big plays but id have to see it to believe it cause i know what happens when you let them get off in the zone read and screen gm, yet to see anything from the qb/wrs that scary so that who im making beat me..

ive been of the opinion skins d has improved and thus far they appear to have, however im not oblivious to the fact the same argument about level of competition can be used that i used about the eagles offense/wr corp. they just havnt seen a talented enough passing offense for me to know to what extent they have improved.. the one thing i do believe about this gm is that as long as skins avoid the starts they had against phi last season i think morris and the offense can dictate this gm to a extent.. the 1st meeting wasnt really fair cause no1 had seen what philly put on them week 1 last season so i think you gotta kinda overlook that gm imo.. i just watched a colts team that aint exactly known for their smash mouth run gm (even tho their moron oc likes to think they are) whip phi at the line of scrimmage to the degree a terrible rb with no vision actually found some holes, gotta believe morris is licking his chops.. i thought this was a runaway div for eagles right up until the point rg3 went down, now i actually think skins can give phi a run for their money in the nfc least.. i could be dead wrong (wouldnt be the 1st time and sadly wont be the last either) but i really like the points and have even been strongly considering sprinkling the ml,, a skins fan at my work told me i was crazy today when i told him that, maybe i am. i think morris goes for 100+ with a couple scores and djax makes them pay once or twice for kicking him to the curb while labeling him a gang banger, he hasnt had a breakout gm yet this year and while he certainly has flaws he not the kind of guy that can be held down forever w/o severely weakening other parts of the field.. i do think skins front 7 is solid enough to take away some of the stuff phi wants to do and eagles have really struggled cashing in red zone chances, as long as skins force some fgs i think that will allow them to continue pounding morris then taking shots when phi is forced to creep up.

panthers-2.5 1st half (2x)..the pit run d that was talked up as improved in the off season still looks weak to me, think panthers can do work on the ground. saw a crazy stat somewhere about panthers 1st halves, something like they havnt trailed at half in BkofAma stadium since week 10 of 2012 and have only allowed 1 td in the last 9 1st halves played there! that insane! need i say more? think you bet them at home every 1st half until they give you a reason not to..

[2daBank]

NYG ml +115 (2x).. only reason this the 1st play im posting cause i just read a little conversation bout it over at ctg so it peaked my interest and i started looking into this one then added my 2 cents.. you can go look at the week 3 discussion thread at ctg to see the conversation if interested but ill tell ya what i found that makes me like gmen in this gm even tho ive been on record calling them stir fried shit since before the start of season..think this team will start to evolve from total trash into mediocre much like half the teams in league, the run defense has been solid only allowing 3.4 ypc and that isnt a drastic change from last year as they held teams to a respectable 3.8, lets be real clear a fitzpatrick lead team no matter how good the d is really shouldnt be laying points on the road, maybe to the raiders but that cause the matchup set up really well for foster to do work and the d to dominate a rookie qb and shit run gm,, this week gmen take away foster and fitzpatrick turns into the guy that has one of his ugly 4 pick games several times a year.. on the other side hou d while very good has given up a league worst 5.8 ypc so far this season , obviously that number will come down but this was a team that ranked in the bottom 3rd last season. hou is great at taking away deep throws with their rush and the back end, normally a good trait but the idea of this new offense is short quick drops dinking and dunking, eli looked better in the second half last week against a very good zona secondary and think this gm kinda sets up well for him to build on that, hopefully this week his wrs wont be surprised when he actually makes a good throw and are ready to catch it!! i know giants have looked bad and maybe they are, hell ive said as much and worse. but in the nfl i subscribe to the theory no team really as bad or good as ppl tend to believe they are..



2 team 6 point teaser (2x)

atl pk
indy-.5

pretty self explanatory as there nothing bout this every square in the world wont like including myself,, not exactly high on atl, the d leaves plenty to be desired and i dunno if they anything more than a 9-7 type team , still not sure what bucs are so there some unknown here for me but really just playing the percentages to try and wrap up the 1st leg of this thing. the percentages are this, home team wins this gm 67% of the time, matty ice at home has a incredibly high win percentage, dont know the exact number but i know before last year it was insane and last year had a lot of extenuating circumstances. so i guess do the math it has to come out to this being a really high percentage play..

colts gm what should i say? who here believes luck drops to 0-3 vs the fukkin jags? i certainly dont,, maybe its close, maybe its not but if i can get through the thu night gm im not sweating this one., if it loses fukk it i suppose cause i dont see it...



sd/buf un 45 (1.5x).. i made this 41-43 point range, i have little to no doubt both teams can move the ball a little, bills are gonna be able to run and run effectively in this contest vs a chargers d that has allowed a pretty healthy ypc last season and that has continued thus far this season. thing about bills and ej is a lot like geno (both young qbs i kinda like more than most) they struggle with efficiency in the red zone, bills were bad in this area last season and as of now dont look to be improved at all converting a very low rate of their chances into tds. so when bills on offense i expect lots of rushing with success between the 20s which leads to drives that even if they do finish will be time consuming and i expect they dont convert more than half their opportunities in this one.. when chargers have the ball i expect rivers to have his moments connecting with keenan allen, however bills allow one of the lowest yards per attempt and avg yards per completion so i suspect rivers makes his hey on shorter routes that extend drives and allow sd to do what they do best and control the gm with time consuming drives keeping their d on the sideline, bills have doen a good job of getting teams off the field on 3rd downs so i feel as if chargers dives will stall out once crossing midfield on several occasions, and again on the scoring drives i expect a good 5-7 minutes to be taken off the clock. think this a field position type gm where the clock will be running a great deal of the time, i envision this being the 1st gm to go final of the early starts, if that the case we should be talking bout a gm with a 21-20/23-20 type of score..


skins+6.5 (1.5x)..gonna just copy and paste what i wrote discussing this gm at ctg the other day so if anything sounds like im responding to someone that is why

im not real convinced that phi is equipped with wrs able to expose secondaries like they were when djax was there.. hasnt mattered yet as they have faced a couple creampuff defenses, i think there gonna come a time when teams flatten their defense out (i guess that the best way to put it) and play them like they already in the red zone, a place phi struggles. if im dc facing them that what i do, take away the width of the field by bringing my safties up in almost a 46 look and force foles to connect with macklin and cooper over the top cause his deep ball doesnt scare me and those wrs dont either (etrz however could be the answer for that from phi standpoint). possible im wrong and they then get a bunch of big plays but id have to see it to believe it cause i know what happens when you let them get off in the zone read and screen gm, yet to see anything from the qb/wrs that scary so that who im making beat me..

ive been of the opinion skins d has improved and thus far they appear to have, however im not oblivious to the fact the same argument about level of competition can be used that i used about the eagles offense/wr corp. they just havnt seen a talented enough passing offense for me to know to what extent they have improved.. the one thing i do believe about this gm is that as long as skins avoid the starts they had against phi last season i think morris and the offense can dictate this gm to a extent.. the 1st meeting wasnt really fair cause no1 had seen what philly put on them week 1 last season so i think you gotta kinda overlook that gm imo.. i just watched a colts team that aint exactly known for their smash mouth run gm (even tho their moron oc likes to think they are) whip phi at the line of scrimmage to the degree a terrible rb with no vision actually found some holes, gotta believe morris is licking his chops.. i thought this was a runaway div for eagles right up until the point rg3 went down, now i actually think skins can give phi a run for their money in the nfc least.. i could be dead wrong (wouldnt be the 1st time and sadly wont be the last either) but i really like the points and have even been strongly considering sprinkling the ml,, a skins fan at my work told me i was crazy today when i told him that, maybe i am. i think morris goes for 100+ with a couple scores and djax makes them pay once or twice for kicking him to the curb while labeling him a gang banger, he hasnt had a breakout gm yet this year and while he certainly has flaws he not the kind of guy that can be held down forever w/o severely weakening other parts of the field.. i do think skins front 7 is solid enough to take away some of the stuff phi wants to do and eagles have really struggled cashing in red zone chances, as long as skins force some fgs i think that will allow them to continue pounding morris then taking shots when phi is forced to creep up.

panthers-2.5 1st half (2x)..the pit run d that was talked up as improved in the off season still looks weak to me, think panthers can do work on the ground. saw a crazy stat somewhere about panthers 1st halves, something like they havnt trailed at half in BkofAma stadium since week 10 of 2012 and have only allowed 1 td in the last 9 1st halves played there! that insane! need i say more? think you bet them at home every 1st half until they give you a reason not to..

det-1 (1x).. forget last week vs a very good panthers d away from home, lions a different animal in the dome and packers d cant sniff the panthers jock. gb allowing 176 rushing yards per gm at damn near a 5ypc clip, this isnt a new problem as they were horrid defending the run last season which was on display in det where lions went for almost 250 on the ground and racked up another 300+ through the air in this matchup. yea i know discount double bitch didnt play in that gm but last i checked he doesnt play defense (although maybe he should, couldnt hurt their run d). i also know double bitch is 9-1 vs det and yea that pretty damn impressive, but guess what i dont care. these aint the same teams as in years past...this game coming down to a couple things, lions ability to run the fb against a piss poor defensive unit and lions front 7 vs a banged up oline. ..forget arod and his weapons vs stafford, megatron, and co. joique bell gonna dominate this gm between the tackles, controlling the clock keepin double bitch and his crew sitting on the sideline. sure gb will still do some things offensively but it is tough to sustain drives when you taking sacks like crazy. i think lions come out and jump on gb early, get the crowd into the gm, then lean on gb with a heavy dose of bell and bush while the defense pins their ears back and comes after arod all day as pack not only cant defend the run they have not gotten their run gm going either... i know everyone loves the over but i would be easy with that, these guys havnt hit the total posted today in the last 4 meetings and i have a feeling it not a close enough game to get all those points, final score will approach the total but creep under i think, lets call it 31-20 lions..

[terrortwylight]

det-1 (1x).. forget last week vs a very good panthers d away from home, lions a different animal in the dome and packers d cant sniff the panthers jock. gb allowing 176 rushing yards per gm at damn near a 5ypc clip, this isnt a new problem as they were horrid defending the run last season which was on display in det where lions went for almost 250 on the ground and racked up another 300+ through the air in this matchup. yea i know discount double bitch didnt play in that gm but last i checked he doesnt play defense (although maybe he should, couldnt hurt their run d). i also know double bitch is 9-1 vs det and yea that pretty damn impressive, but guess what i dont care. these aint the same teams as in years past...this game coming down to a couple things, lions ability to run the fb against a piss poor defensive unit and lions front 7 vs a banged up oline. ..forget arod and his weapons vs stafford, megatron, and co. joique bell gonna dominate this gm between the tackles, controlling the clock keepin double bitch and his crew sitting on the sideline. sure gb will still do some things offensively but it is tough to sustain drives when you taking sacks like crazy. i think lions come out and jump on gb early, get the crowd into the gm, then lean on gb with a heavy dose of bell and bush while the defense pins their ears back and comes after arod all day as pack not only cant defend the run they have not gotten their run gm going either... i know everyone loves the over but i would be easy with that, these guys havnt hit the total posted today in the last 4 meetings and i have a feeling it not a close enough game to get all those points, final score will approach the total but creep under i think, lets call it 31-20 lions..

Love the analysis, Banker. I'm a Detroit homer/fan, I got burned last week in Carolina. Think you may have inspired me to tail you and try em again this week. I also love your theory on the Buffalo under. Carolina I think covers tonight easily. I've been on that since lines dropped. Makes me feel better that we're on the same page.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Good write ups as usual Banker! Agree pretty strongly on Nyg,Panthers and Lions picks I think they both get the W's at home. Thinking pretty much the same way on Seahags but honestly I would not be shocked to see them lose 1st home gm since Clinton was in office or whenever it was lol. Think Denver more loaded on D then they were in SB and something in back of my head says don't play against Manning in a revenge gm which is an angle been really successful ov the years except vs Pats. Congrats on your anniversary , enjoy the wifey weekend, and good winnin!

[2daBank]

Good write ups as usual Banker! Agree pretty strongly on Nyg,Panthers and Lions picks I think they both get the W's at home. Thinking pretty much the same way on Seahags but honestly I would not be shocked to see them lose 1st home gm since Clinton was in office or whenever it was lol. Think Denver more loaded on D then they were in SB and something in back of my head says don't play against Manning in a revenge gm which is an angle been really successful ov the years except vs Pats. Congrats on your anniversary , enjoy the wifey weekend, and good winnin!

zona beat them in sea last year so hasnt been that long, of coarse that only time wilson has lost in sea.. really wanna play the under but kinda scared, pretty much same thing in gb/det im tempted to play under as well. will prob pass on total in det since i bet det but dont have much i like in the late gms so pretty good chance i play under in sea..agree donks are improved and i think all around not just their d, i like saunders better than decker in this offense, the oline is better, ball a downgrade from moreno thus far but that really the only spot donks dont look better to me. on other side i dont think sea d is as good, they lost quality depth after the sb and dont think they replaced it. their offense might be a little more explosive with harvin but not like tate was chopped liver, most likely more explosive cause think they shifting toward putting it more in wilson's hands.. far as the total i think den will look to get ball involved early mostly to let the oline try and be physical with sea smallish front, that always been the way to attack them imo and would think den has figured out having peyton sit back and try to sling it not a great idea. think we talking 24-20 type of gm but i dont love my number there.. far as donks winning i dunno, in den maybe but im not sure how they will look when peyton cant stand at the line and audible? knowing him he has hand signals all worked out but it not gonna be easy to do what they normally do..makes sense to me it lower scoring but really having to talk myself into it cause i dont like playing donks gms under or under in sea all that often as they tend to put up lot of points when home..

[R.P. McMurphy]

Yeah forgot about Zona winning. Thought a couple seasons had gone by unbeaten there. Peyton gonna be on the receiving end of the "filtered noise" he enjoyed while in Indy. But Sept also a different beast than Jan. where we see smashmouth dominance more like Seahags play. Think it's close regardless and won't be a SB beat down rerun like many are thinking. You know Peyton has studied more tape since that gm than Jaws has probably watched in past decade lol. Sure he's found some things he can exploit today.

[2daBank]

NYG ml +115 (2x).. only reason this the 1st play im posting cause i just read a little conversation bout it over at ctg so it peaked my interest and i started looking into this one then added my 2 cents.. you can go look at the week 3 discussion thread at ctg to see the conversation if interested but ill tell ya what i found that makes me like gmen in this gm even tho ive been on record calling them stir fried shit since before the start of season..think this team will start to evolve from total trash into mediocre much like half the teams in league, the run defense has been solid only allowing 3.4 ypc and that isnt a drastic change from last year as they held teams to a respectable 3.8, lets be real clear a fitzpatrick lead team no matter how good the d is really shouldnt be laying points on the road, maybe to the raiders but that cause the matchup set up really well for foster to do work and the d to dominate a rookie qb and shit run gm,, this week gmen take away foster and fitzpatrick turns into the guy that has one of his ugly 4 pick games several times a year.. on the other side hou d while very good has given up a league worst 5.8 ypc so far this season , obviously that number will come down but this was a team that ranked in the bottom 3rd last season. hou is great at taking away deep throws with their rush and the back end, normally a good trait but the idea of this new offense is short quick drops dinking and dunking, eli looked better in the second half last week against a very good zona secondary and think this gm kinda sets up well for him to build on that, hopefully this week his wrs wont be surprised when he actually makes a good throw and are ready to catch it!! i know giants have looked bad and maybe they are, hell ive said as much and worse. but in the nfl i subscribe to the theory no team really as bad or good as ppl tend to believe they are..



2 team 6 point teaser (2x)

atl pk
indy-.5

pretty self explanatory as there nothing bout this every square in the world wont like including myself,, not exactly high on atl, the d leaves plenty to be desired and i dunno if they anything more than a 9-7 type team , still not sure what bucs are so there some unknown here for me but really just playing the percentages to try and wrap up the 1st leg of this thing. the percentages are this, home team wins this gm 67% of the time, matty ice at home has a incredibly high win percentage, dont know the exact number but i know before last year it was insane and last year had a lot of extenuating circumstances. so i guess do the math it has to come out to this being a really high percentage play..

colts gm what should i say? who here believes luck drops to 0-3 vs the fukkin jags? i certainly dont,, maybe its close, maybe its not but if i can get through the thu night gm im not sweating this one., if it loses fukk it i suppose cause i dont see it...



sd/buf un 45 (1.5x).. i made this 41-43 point range, i have little to no doubt both teams can move the ball a little, bills are gonna be able to run and run effectively in this contest vs a chargers d that has allowed a pretty healthy ypc last season and that has continued thus far this season. thing about bills and ej is a lot like geno (both young qbs i kinda like more than most) they struggle with efficiency in the red zone, bills were bad in this area last season and as of now dont look to be improved at all converting a very low rate of their chances into tds. so when bills on offense i expect lots of rushing with success between the 20s which leads to drives that even if they do finish will be time consuming and i expect they dont convert more than half their opportunities in this one.. when chargers have the ball i expect rivers to have his moments connecting with keenan allen, however bills allow one of the lowest yards per attempt and avg yards per completion so i suspect rivers makes his hey on shorter routes that extend drives and allow sd to do what they do best and control the gm with time consuming drives keeping their d on the sideline, bills have doen a good job of getting teams off the field on 3rd downs so i feel as if chargers dives will stall out once crossing midfield on several occasions, and again on the scoring drives i expect a good 5-7 minutes to be taken off the clock. think this a field position type gm where the clock will be running a great deal of the time, i envision this being the 1st gm to go final of the early starts, if that the case we should be talking bout a gm with a 21-20/23-20 type of score..


skins+6.5 (1.5x)..gonna just copy and paste what i wrote discussing this gm at ctg the other day so if anything sounds like im responding to someone that is why

im not real convinced that phi is equipped with wrs able to expose secondaries like they were when djax was there.. hasnt mattered yet as they have faced a couple creampuff defenses, i think there gonna come a time when teams flatten their defense out (i guess that the best way to put it) and play them like they already in the red zone, a place phi struggles. if im dc facing them that what i do, take away the width of the field by bringing my safties up in almost a 46 look and force foles to connect with macklin and cooper over the top cause his deep ball doesnt scare me and those wrs dont either (etrz however could be the answer for that from phi standpoint). possible im wrong and they then get a bunch of big plays but id have to see it to believe it cause i know what happens when you let them get off in the zone read and screen gm, yet to see anything from the qb/wrs that scary so that who im making beat me..

ive been of the opinion skins d has improved and thus far they appear to have, however im not oblivious to the fact the same argument about level of competition can be used that i used about the eagles offense/wr corp. they just havnt seen a talented enough passing offense for me to know to what extent they have improved.. the one thing i do believe about this gm is that as long as skins avoid the starts they had against phi last season i think morris and the offense can dictate this gm to a extent.. the 1st meeting wasnt really fair cause no1 had seen what philly put on them week 1 last season so i think you gotta kinda overlook that gm imo.. i just watched a colts team that aint exactly known for their smash mouth run gm (even tho their moron oc likes to think they are) whip phi at the line of scrimmage to the degree a terrible rb with no vision actually found some holes, gotta believe morris is licking his chops.. i thought this was a runaway div for eagles right up until the point rg3 went down, now i actually think skins can give phi a run for their money in the nfc least.. i could be dead wrong (wouldnt be the 1st time and sadly wont be the last either) but i really like the points and have even been strongly considering sprinkling the ml,, a skins fan at my work told me i was crazy today when i told him that, maybe i am. i think morris goes for 100+ with a couple scores and djax makes them pay once or twice for kicking him to the curb while labeling him a gang banger, he hasnt had a breakout gm yet this year and while he certainly has flaws he not the kind of guy that can be held down forever w/o severely weakening other parts of the field.. i do think skins front 7 is solid enough to take away some of the stuff phi wants to do and eagles have really struggled cashing in red zone chances, as long as skins force some fgs i think that will allow them to continue pounding morris then taking shots when phi is forced to creep up.

panthers-2.5 1st half (2x)..the pit run d that was talked up as improved in the off season still looks weak to me, think panthers can do work on the ground. saw a crazy stat somewhere about panthers 1st halves, something like they havnt trailed at half in BkofAma stadium since week 10 of 2012 and have only allowed 1 td in the last 9 1st halves played there! that insane! need i say more? think you bet them at home every 1st half until they give you a reason not to..



det-1 (1x).. forget last week vs a very good panthers d away from home, lions a different animal in the dome and packers d cant sniff the panthers jock. gb allowing 176 rushing yards per gm at damn near a 5ypc clip, this isnt a new problem as they were horrid defending the run last season which was on display in det where lions went for almost 250 on the ground and racked up another 300+ through the air in this matchup. yea i know discount double bitch didnt play in that gm but last i checked he doesnt play defense (although maybe he should, couldnt hurt their run d). i also know double bitch is 9-1 vs det and yea that pretty damn impressive, but guess what i dont care. these aint the same teams as in years past...this game coming down to a couple things, lions ability to run the fb against a piss poor defensive unit and lions front 7 vs a banged up oline. ..forget arod and his weapons vs stafford, megatron, and co. joique bell gonna dominate this gm between the tackles, controlling the clock keepin double bitch and his crew sitting on the sideline. sure gb will still do some things offensively but it is tough to sustain drives when you taking sacks like crazy. i think lions come out and jump on gb early, get the crowd into the gm, then lean on gb with a heavy dose of bell and bush while the defense pins their ears back and comes after arod all day as pack not only cant defend the run they have not gotten their run gm going either... i know everyone loves the over but i would be easy with that, these guys havnt hit the total posted today in the last 4 meetings and i have a feeling it not a close enough game to get all those points, final score will approach the total but creep under i think, lets call it 31-20 lions..

skins ml +220 (.5x)..see above, maybe im crazy but i think they pull this gm out. if philly starts slow again morris can dictate this game!
skins+3.5 1st half (.5x)

scared of these two totals but i wanna play them anyway cause my number says so..

gb/det un 53.5 (.5x)

donks/seachickens un 48.5 (1x)

[2daBank]

Yeah forgot about Zona winning. Thought a couple seasons had gone by unbeaten there. Peyton gonna be on the receiving end of the "filtered noise" he enjoyed while in Indy. But Sept also a different beast than Jan. where we see smashmouth dominance more like Seahags play. Think it's close regardless and won't be a SB beat down rerun like many are thinking. You know Peyton has studied more tape since that gm than Jaws has probably watched in past decade lol. Sure he's found some things he can exploit today.

i def think it will be a much more competitive game no doubt..

[Knamelis]

Bank: a game I don't think has been discussed, where do you lean in Ten v Cincy?

[2daBank]

Bank: a game I don't think has been discussed, where do you lean in Ten v Cincy?

i dunno, gun to head id prob take the points but mostly cause 7 a lot and couple guys i respect on titans..that said the way murry gashed the titans defense last week i worry cincy run gm gonna do some serious work here. lockers inconsistency reared its ugly head last week against a mediocre dal defense that granted playing much better than ppl thought they could, just dont trust locker vs a really good d that pretty much shut down the falcons last week...really dont see anyway cincy loses as they look a lot like the team i was suckered into believing could make noise in the playoffs, lol. i actually think they better cause i think the new oc has a much better philosophy for a team who is lead by a ginger pussy. so i guess only way id play this gm is teasing cincy down..

[2daBank]

Love the analysis, Banker. I'm a Detroit homer/fan, I got burned last week in Carolina. Think you may have inspired me to tail you and try em again this week. I also love your theory on the Buffalo under. Carolina I think covers tonight easily. I've been on that since lines dropped. Makes me feel better that we're on the same page.

think it only fair to warn you most the ppl i respect are on pack and the biggest moron on this forum is "guaranteeing" a lions victory, lol..

i still like det but that why it only 1u instead of 2 or 3 cause i understand taking pack, your team is really hard to trust but i think they have a lot of advantages in this matchup. just hope they commit to the run gm cause i could run on packers d!!

[No coincidences]

think it only fair to warn you most the ppl i respect are on pack and the biggest moron on this forum is "guaranteeing" a lions victory, lol..

i still like det but that why it only 1u instead of 2 or 3 cause i understand taking pack, your team is really hard to trust but i think they have a lot of advantages in this matchup. just hope they commit to the run gm cause i could run on packers d!!

I don't know how anyone could feel comfortable betting that game.

[terrortwylight]

think it only fair to warn you most the ppl i respect are on pack and the biggest moron on this forum is "guaranteeing" a lions victory, lol..

i still like det but that why it only 1u instead of 2 or 3 cause i understand taking pack, your team is really hard to trust but i think they have a lot of advantages in this matchup. just hope they commit to the run gm cause i could run on packers d!!

LOL as soon as I saw that "GUARANTEE LIONS WIN" thread i wanted to hang myself