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  • upscope
    SBR MVP
    • 04-26-11
    • 2837

    #2416
    Originally posted by Pair of 5s Sir
    I have seen alot of people represent records. One key component that is oftentimes left out, not for nefarious reasons, is the average unit wagered. That metrix is a very revealing number. For example, you get some hack states he is +200 units, with anaverage unit/play of 10.

    Take the same scenario with average unit/play of 5. No you know what I am trying to illustrate. Then people can get the entire picture.

    This post is not intended to question or suggest anything nefarious on your part.
    Agree 100%........This is why I like the way LTA rates his plays. He's the standard IMO on how plays should be rated. A 1u play is standard. His multiple unit plays come less often but when they do you can easily relate to their value. A 2u play is just that.....twice as strong. And 3u & above plays are rare but easy to calculate their strength. In the end he may "only" be ahead what appears to be an "unimpressive" 20 or so units but that's the same as the guy tossing around 20u plays & selling you on the fact that he's UP 400u

    There's another daily thread in this section that rates plays from 1x - 30x & has approx. a 55% win rate but comes off as if he is God because he's UP 160x which is laughable.

    BTW......I'm not knocking you @ all Moz because I have easily been able to correlate your rating system into my own. Your rating system is similar to Buck's & it's easy to translate your 3x-5x plays into 1u for me & your 6x-10x into 2u & your 11x & above into 3 or more units.
    However cappers choose to rate their plays unit wise is fine as it's obviously the tailers responsibility to translate & calculate into their own units.

    Just my .02
    BOL
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    • clevelandpride
      SBR Sharp
      • 10-31-11
      • 257

      #2417
      Wow....I made mozzy boy mad. If you weren't a tout you would just ignore me and not type an essay to make up excuses why your not.

      Carry on, bytch.
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      • Pair of 5s Sir
        SBR MVP
        • 04-20-08
        • 4960

        #2418
        Originally posted by upscope
        Agree 100%........This is why I like the way LTA rates his plays. He's the standard IMO on how plays should be rated. A 1u play is standard. His multiple unit plays come less often but when they do you can easily relate to their value. A 2u play is just that.....twice as strong. And 3u & above plays are rare but easy to calculate their strength. In the end he may "only" be ahead what appears to be an "unimpressive" 20 or so units but that's the same as the guy tossing around 20u plays & selling you on the fact that he's UP 400u

        There's another daily thread in this section that rates plays from 1x - 30x & has approx. a 55% win rate but comes off as if he is God because he's UP 160x which is laughable.

        BTW......I'm not knocking you @ all Moz because I have easily been able to correlate your rating system into my own. Your rating system is similar to Buck's & it's easy to translate your 3x-5x plays into 1u for me & your 6x-10x into 2u & your 11x & above into 3 or more units.
        However cappers choose to rate their plays unit wise is fine as it's obviously the tailers responsibility to translate & calculate into their own units.

        Just my .02
        BOL
        I would be curious to see what the average unit wagered/play for Filmoz would be. It would illustrate a ton.
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        • Filmoz
          SBR MVP
          • 10-05-11
          • 3933

          #2419
          Originally posted by clevelandpride
          Wow....I made mozzy boy mad. If you weren't a tout you would just ignore me and not type an essay to make up excuses why your not.

          Carry on, bytch.
          Lol you are so insane. You are paranoid or something. What are you getting out of all this you fukking moron? And you still have yet to tell us all the things you've accomplished in your life like you bragged about a few posts back. Please enlighten us.
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          • mbs4
            SBR Sharp
            • 05-14-10
            • 388

            #2420
            Originally posted by Filmoz
            Lol you are so insane. What are you getting out of all this you fukking moron? And you still have yet to tell us all the things you've accomplished in your life like you bragged about a few posts back. Please enlighten us.
            Your attention.
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            • Filmoz
              SBR MVP
              • 10-05-11
              • 3933

              #2421
              Originally posted by mbs4

              Your attention.
              you're right, and sadly I've let him succeed.
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              • upscope
                SBR MVP
                • 04-26-11
                • 2837

                #2422
                Originally posted by Pair of 5s Sir
                I would be curious to see what the average unit wagered/play for Filmoz would be. It would illustrate a ton.
                His average unit play is 4.1x
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                • Filmoz
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-05-11
                  • 3933

                  #2423
                  Originally posted by upscope

                  His average unit play is 4.1x
                  So am I doing alright in light of that?
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                  • gba
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 06-06-10
                    • 417

                    #2424
                    How about we start talking games here????
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                    • upscope
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-26-11
                      • 2837

                      #2425
                      Originally posted by Filmoz
                      So am I doing alright in light of that?
                      absolutely......Assuming 4.1x = 1 unit that would put you UP 14 pure units

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                      • losemyloot
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 01-26-11
                        • 697

                        #2426
                        Playing his games at 1 unit each and you would be up 15 units. Seems the simplest way to follow him.
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                        • Capybara
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-17-08
                          • 11803

                          #2427
                          'Afternoon, All. My, how this thread has expanded and grown in various (good and bad) directions since the innocent early days!

                          I'm torn on the issue of whether Mozer should accommodate this agitator with replies. You guys are right that he just wants attention and "wins" when he get it, but on the other hand, Filmoz has every right to, and clearly WANTS to, defend himself articulately, which he does.

                          Tough call.

                          Anyway, what could be weaker though than this guy just coming in after every loss to say "See? He sucks." Meanwhile ignoring every win, and the overall record, and units gained. LOL, so friggin' lame!
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                          • Pair of 5s Sir
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-20-08
                            • 4960

                            #2428
                            Originally posted by upscope
                            absolutely......Assuming 4.1x = 1 unit that would put you UP 14 pure units

                            Admirable. That number is respectable. As you know, the marathon to infinity continues. If you don't mind, going forward, please include your average unit wagered from time to time. Just a request.
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                            • upscope
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-26-11
                              • 2837

                              #2429
                              Originally posted by Pair of 5s Sir
                              Admirable. That number is respectable. As you know, the marathon to infinity continues. If you don't mind, going forward, please include your average unit wagered from time to time. Just a request.
                              It can be figured out @ any point in apprx 2min
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                              • RoadDog
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-11-11
                                • 2666

                                #2430
                                Originally posted by Filmoz
                                buddy, where do you go to school?
                                University of Illinois. Where'd you go?
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                                • MatthewPV
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 11-15-11
                                  • 269

                                  #2431
                                  Originally posted by clevelandpride
                                  Wow....I made mozzy boy mad. If you weren't a tout you would just ignore me and not type an essay to make up excuses why your not. Carry on, bytch.
                                  Cleveland, I am still looking to follow your plays. Please help! Thanks.
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                                  • Filmoz
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-05-11
                                    • 3933

                                    #2432
                                    Originally posted by RoadDog
                                    University of Illinois. Where'd you go?
                                    University of Arizona. What year are you in? You still in finals right now?
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                                    • RoadDog
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-11-11
                                      • 2666

                                      #2433
                                      3L, yea my last final is the 20th. Pain in my a**! I cant wait to be done. Absolutely hated it.
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                                      • Wizzard91
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 12-14-11
                                        • 1

                                        #2434
                                        Hey guys, I have been following Moz for about 6 weeks now and he is simply the best. Yes I lost a lot on CMU and it is my alum...but CMU played so bad it should have covered. Oh well, Im looking at :

                                        Depaul -11
                                        Iona - 3
                                        Auburn - 1.5

                                        Any thoughts?
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                                        • Filmoz
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-05-11
                                          • 3933

                                          #2435
                                          Originally posted by RoadDog
                                          3L, yea my last final is the 20th. Pain in my a**! I cant wait to be done. Absolutely hated it.
                                          Yeah law school sucked, good to be done with it. You got a job lined up or a field you want to go into?
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                                          • RoadDog
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-11-11
                                            • 2666

                                            #2436
                                            Job lined up in family law. Divorce and child custody mostly (pretty depressing sh*t lol). But i like $
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                                            • Filmoz
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-05-11
                                              • 3933

                                              #2437
                                              Originally posted by RoadDog
                                              Job lined up in family law. Divorce and child custody mostly (pretty depressing sh*t lol). But i like $
                                              Lol yeah I've done some family law. Not a fan.
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                                              • RoadDog
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-11-11
                                                • 2666

                                                #2438
                                                Originally posted by Filmoz
                                                Lol yeah I've done some family law. Not a fan.
                                                Yea, its pretty brutal but in this economy I cant complain. Plus, the firm is located in downtown Chicago so I can be closer to home. What type of law do you practice?
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                                                • Filmoz
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-05-11
                                                  • 3933

                                                  #2439
                                                  Mostly private crim defense at the moment.
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                                                  • Ch Br
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-06-11
                                                    • 425

                                                    #2440
                                                    Originally posted by Filmoz
                                                    Mostly private crim defense at the moment.
                                                    this is so off topic [apologizing to the rest already] but Oz have you seen the classic movie 'Anatomy of a Murder' 1959 with Jimmie Stewart???? Its still probably the best and most accurate movie, from a legal standpoint] that covers a criminal defense and trial, while managing to remain interesting....
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                                                    • Capybara
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 08-17-08
                                                      • 11803

                                                      #2441
                                                      Originally posted by Filmoz
                                                      Lol yeah I've done some family law. Not a fan.
                                                      Moze, how do you have so much law experience already at 25, having already practiced in different fields and whatnot? I thought law school took three years. You are definitely a Type A, brutha. And all the capping too, geez. I feel productive if I have one or two cohesive thoughts in a day.
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                                                      • Filmoz
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-05-11
                                                        • 3933

                                                        #2442
                                                        Originally posted by Capybara

                                                        Moze, how do you have so much law experience already at 25, having already practiced in different fields and whatnot? I thought law school took three years. You are definitely a Type A, brutha. And all the capping too, geez. I feel productive if I have one or two cohesive thoughts in a day.
                                                        4 years of undergrad straight into 3 years of law school without any breaks had me done with school when I was 24. I graduated this past May, took the bar exam in July, found out I passed in October.

                                                        I don't mean to talk myself up and make it sound like I have "practiced" all these types of law. My situation is actually rather typical, as most law students get substantial experience during law school via internships and part time work. I interned at different places both summers during law school, and I worked during the school year all of my final year. So I am still pretty green, but I have gotten to do a lot, such as drafting pleadings and motions, doing investigation and coming up with strategy. Basically everything short of making appearances on the record in court, which takes a licensed attorney. But now that I passed the bar, that will be me too pretty soon!

                                                        Part of the reason that I am able to check in and post so much is that my work is very research-and-writing based right now and I am at my desk a lot. As I transition into my role as full-blown attorney, I will likely be out and about much more.
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                                                        • Filmoz
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-05-11
                                                          • 3933

                                                          #2443
                                                          P.S. but I am thinking of throwing it all away to become a tout. Seems logical rite?
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                                                          • thejus21
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 02-08-11
                                                            • 100

                                                            #2444
                                                            Moz I know the feeling. Graduated '08, took my Florida and New York Bar in 09'. Passed both. Just finally got into a good position last year working as in-house counsel for a corp. Good luck out there brother. Just keep going after it and you will get into something good.
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                                                            • iceman8847
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 12-16-08
                                                              • 526

                                                              #2445
                                                              Oz do have a lean on the Iona / Richmond match up
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                                                              • Filmoz
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-05-11
                                                                • 3933

                                                                #2446
                                                                Originally posted by thejus21
                                                                Moz I know the feeling. Graduated '08, took my Florida and New York Bar in 09'. Passed both. Just finally got into a good position last year working as in-house counsel for a corp. Good luck out there brother. Just keep going after it and you will get into something good.
                                                                In-house sounds like a sweet gig. Nice work on the NY bar too, was it as difficult as it is said to be?

                                                                I am pretty happy with where I landed career-wise. Cases are interesting and the money is good. Definitely do not wanna be a lawyer forever though, hoping to be frugal for a while and hopefully be able to put some savings into real estate or something.
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                                                                • rb3b3
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 10-03-10
                                                                  • 962

                                                                  #2447
                                                                  Originally posted by RoadDog
                                                                  Give rb3 some credit. Capped his first games tonight, went 1-1 and predicted Irvine would lose by 12 and they lost by 10. Keep at it bro.
                                                                  i guess not bad for capping my first two games ever.. i was really close on one and destroyed on the other... lets see what happens on this one.... i have richmond winning this game by 2 making richmond +3 the play.
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                                                                  • laytnite
                                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                                    • 11-15-11
                                                                    • 79

                                                                    #2448
                                                                    Gonna have to unsubscribe from this thread. It's turned into a Sorority house with all this bullshit yapping
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                                                                    • Filmoz
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-05-11
                                                                      • 3933

                                                                      #2449
                                                                      Originally posted by iceman8847
                                                                      Oz do have a lean on the Iona / Richmond match up
                                                                      Should have some plays up in a couple hours.
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                                                                      • Filmoz
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 10-05-11
                                                                        • 3933

                                                                        #2450
                                                                        12/14/11

                                                                        Richmond +3 -102 5x
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