Michigan St in the final four is a joke.

[Brock Landers]

They got to the final 4 and didn't beat ONE higher ranked team. That has to be a 1st.

Total fluke they got there. Butler will take care of them anyway.

[rm18]

they beat Maryland

[Brock Landers]

they beat Maryland

yeah a 4 seed, i guess, but that was luck too.

[LT Profits]

they beat Maryland

Right, that was the one higher ranked team Brock was referring to. And I agree that the Butler will do it.

[krk1030]

So is Duke.

[Ralphie1412]

I really wish Kalin Lucas was healthy for this game.

Michigan St. is going to be a final four contender for the near future. And have already gone back to back.

[Brock Landers]

I really wish Kalin Lucas was healthy for this game. Michigan St. is going to be a final four contender for the near future. And have already gone back to back.

this year does not count, its a total fluke. they should have gotten rolled by Kansas, but somehow Northern Iowa snuck in.

[No coincidences]

this year does not count, its a total fluke. they should have gotten rolled by Kansas, but somehow Northern Iowa snuck in.

Northern Iowa "snuck in" by dominating Kansas, moron.

Did you watch that game? KU basically had no chance. And then MSU turned around and shut them down.

MSU haters are everywhere, and yet, they keep doing what they're doing.

[paco]

Brock, don't hate on us just cuz Illinois didn't cut it

[No coincidences]

this year does not count, its a total fluke.

[krk1030]

Dominating Kansas by a kid taking a bone head shot and having it go in?

[No coincidences]

Brock, don't hate on us just cuz Illinois didn't cut it

No wonder this dude's so bitter. He's an Illini fan? That explains a lot.

[Brock Landers]

MSU getting in is a total fluke, to see it any other way is blindness. they don't even have their top fukking player!

[Law-Byrnes]

So any team that makes it when beating lower ranked teams is a fluke. Sorry #1 seeds; you guys are all flukes.

[hoopster42]

simple analysis. the 1, 2, and 3 seed in their bracket were beaten before they could face them. total fluke. i have been saying it since sunday and i'm glad brock is pointing it out. however............they have a GREAT shot to beat butler but then it ends when they play duke/wva winner

[paco]

MSU getting in is a total fluke, to see it any other way is blindness. they don't even have their top fukking player!

They play as a team Brock and don't depend on only 1 player like ur Illinois team did. U see the difference in success?

[Dirty Sanchez]

You can only beat who's put in front of you....blame the other "higher ranked" teams who couldn't get it done...nuff said

[phillip]

Dominating Kansas by a kid taking a bone head shot and having it go in?

Well Kansas never led in the Nothern Iowa game.

[Deuce]

Brock quit being a jerkoff they should have been at least a 3 seed anyhow plus they have best coach on country.

[MC PICKS]

Michigan State wins this game by 3 points, you heard it here first.

[paco]

Brock quit being a jerkoff they should have been at least a 3 seed anyhow plus they have best coach on country.

[Brock Landers]

Brock quit being a jerkoff they should have been at least a 3 seed anyhow plus they have best coach on country.

this is one of the worst MSU teams in a while and they made it to the final 4, unreal.

[obamaismyuncle]

Brock quit being a jerkoff they should have been at least a 3 seed anyhow plus they have best coach on country.

[Straight Cash]

Since the tournament expanded they have had the 41st toughest road to the final four if you go by seeds played out of 104 teams. But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.

[all_wade]

michigan state got in because they earn it

[Straight Cash]

Since the tournament expanded they have had the 41st toughest road to the final four if you go by seeds played out of 104 teams. But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.

Before you ask...

Rank, Average Opponent Seed (rds 1-4), Year, Team Seed, Team

# 1 3.00 -- 1986 11 Louisiana State
# 2 4.25 -- 2006 11 George Mason
# 2 4.25 -- 1985 8 Villanova
# 4 5.00 -- 2000 5 Florida
# 4 5.00 -- 2000 8 Wisconsin
# 6 5.25 -- 2000 8 North Carolina
# 6 5.25 -- 1995 4 Oklahoma State
# 8 5.75 -- 1991 3 Kansas
# 8 5.75 -- 2003 3 Marquette
# 8 5.75 -- 2009 3 Villanova
# 11 6.25 -- 1990 4 Georgia Tech
# 12 6.50 -- 1994 2 Arizona
# 12 6.50 -- 1992 2 Indiana
# 12 6.50 -- 2005 4 Louisville
# 12 6.50 -- 2004 2 Oklahoma State
# 12 6.50 -- 2007 2 UCLA
# 17 7.00 -- 2010 5 Butler - 12,13,1,2
# 17 7.00 -- 1990 3 Duke
# 17 7.00 -- 2006 4 Louisiana State
# 17 7.00 -- 1992 6 Michigan
# 17 7.00 -- 2005 5 Michigan State
# 17 7.00 -- 1996 5 Mississippi State
# 17 7.00 -- 1987 6 Providence
# 24 7.25 -- 2001 2 Arizona
# 24 7.25 -- 1994 2 Duke
# 24 7.25 -- 2007 2 Georgetown
# 24 7.25 -- 1993 2 Kansas
# 24 7.25 -- 2003 2 Kansas
# 24 7.25 -- 2009 2 Michigan State
# 24 7.25 -- 1995 2 North Carolina
# 24 7.25 -- 1999 4 Ohio State
# 24 7.25 -- 2006 2 UCLA
# 33 7.50 -- 1985 1 Georgetown
# 33 7.50 -- 2002 1 Kansas
# 33 7.50 -- 1997 1 Kentucky
# 33 7.50 -- 2002 1 Maryland
# 33 7.50 -- 2000 1 Michigan State
# 33 7.50 -- 1993 1 North Carolina
# 33 7.50 -- 1998 1 North Carolina
# 33 7.50 -- 2009 1 North Carolina
# 41 7.75 -- 2010 5 Michigan State - 12,4,9,6
# 41 7.75 -- 2010 1 Duke - 16,8,4,3
# 41 7.75 -- 1988 1 Arizona
# 41 7.75 -- 1992 1 Duke
# 41 7.75 -- 1989 1 Illinois
# 41 7.75 -- 1996 1 Kentucky
# 41 7.75 -- 2008 1 Memphis
# 41 7.75 -- 1997 1 Minnesota
# 41 7.75 -- 1991 1 Nevada-Las Vegas
# 41 7.75 -- 1989 3 Seton Hall
# 41 7.75 -- 2003 3 Syracuse
# 41 7.75 -- 1995 1 UCLA
# 41 7.75 -- 1998 3 Utah
# 54 8.00 -- 1995 2 Arkansas
# 54 8.00 -- 1993 1 Kentucky
# 54 8.00 -- 1998 2 Kentucky
# 54 8.00 -- 1989 3 Michigan
# 54 8.00 -- 2008 1 North Carolina
# 54 8.00 -- 2007 1 Ohio State
# 54 8.00 -- 1987 2 Syracuse
# 61 8.25 -- 1992 4 Cincinnati
# 61 8.25 -- 2009 1 Connecticut
# 61 8.25 -- 2006 3 Florida
# 61 8.25 -- 2007 1 Florida
# 61 8.25 -- 1986 2 Louisville
# 66 8.50 -- 1988 2 Duke
# 66 8.50 -- 1989 2 Duke
# 66 8.50 -- 2004 3 Georgia Tech
# 66 8.50 -- 1985 2 Memphis
# 70 8.75 -- 2001 1 Duke
# 70 8.75 -- 1988 1 Oklahoma
# 70 8.75 -- 1998 3 Stanford
# 70 8.75 -- 1996 4 Syracuse
# 74 9.00 -- 1997 4 Arizona
# 74 9.00 -- 2004 2 Connecticut
# 74 9.00 -- 2004 1 Duke
# 74 9.00 -- 1994 3 Florida
# 74 9.00 -- 2002 5 Indiana
# 74 9.00 -- 1986 1 Kansas
# 74 9.00 -- 1988 6 Kansas
# 74 9.00 -- 2001 3 Maryland
# 74 9.00 -- 1997 1 North Carolina
# 74 9.00 -- 2005 1 North Carolina
# 84 9.25 -- 2010 2 West Virginia - 15,10,11,1
# 84 9.25 -- 1991 2 Duke
# 84 9.25 -- 2002 2 Oklahoma
# 84 9.25 -- 2003 1 Texas
# 88 9.75 -- 1987 1 Indiana
# 88 9.75 -- 1996 1 Massachusetts
# 88 9.75 -- 1987 1 Nevada-Las Vegas
# 91 10.00 -- 1994 1 Arkansas
# 91 10.00 -- 1999 1 Connecticut
# 91 10.00 -- 2005 1 Illinois
# 91 10.00 -- 1985 1 St. John's, New York
# 91 10.00 -- 2008 1 UCLA
# 96 10.25 -- 1999 1 Michigan State
# 97 10.75 -- 1990 4 Arkansas
# 97 10.75 -- 1986 1 Duke
# 97 10.75 -- 1999 1 Duke
#100 11.00 -- 1993 1 Michigan
#101 11.50 -- 2008 1 Kansas
#102 11.75 -- 1990 1 Nevada-Las Vegas
#102 11.75 -- 1991 1 North Carolina
#104 12.00 -- 2001 1 Michigan State

[coloradobuff]

wish terps had won that game vs msu

[No coincidences]

this is one of the worst MSU teams in a while and they made it to the final 4, unreal.

All the more reason to give them credit.

I'm sorry you follow a program that can't live up to its potential. MSU does, and then some. Sheer jealousy.

[No coincidences]

Before you ask...

Rank, Average Opponent Seed (rds 1-4), Year, Team Seed, Team

# 1 3.00 -- 1986 11 Louisiana State
# 2 4.25 -- 2006 11 George Mason
# 2 4.25 -- 1985 8 Villanova
# 4 5.00 -- 2000 5 Florida
# 4 5.00 -- 2000 8 Wisconsin
# 6 5.25 -- 2000 8 North Carolina
# 6 5.25 -- 1995 4 Oklahoma State
# 8 5.75 -- 1991 3 Kansas
# 8 5.75 -- 2003 3 Marquette
# 8 5.75 -- 2009 3 Villanova
# 11 6.25 -- 1990 4 Georgia Tech
# 12 6.50 -- 1994 2 Arizona
# 12 6.50 -- 1992 2 Indiana
# 12 6.50 -- 2005 4 Louisville
# 12 6.50 -- 2004 2 Oklahoma State
# 12 6.50 -- 2007 2 UCLA
# 17 7.00 -- 2010 5 Butler - 12,13,1,2
# 17 7.00 -- 1990 3 Duke
# 17 7.00 -- 2006 4 Louisiana State
# 17 7.00 -- 1992 6 Michigan
# 17 7.00 -- 2005 5 Michigan State
# 17 7.00 -- 1996 5 Mississippi State
# 17 7.00 -- 1987 6 Providence
# 24 7.25 -- 2001 2 Arizona
# 24 7.25 -- 1994 2 Duke
# 24 7.25 -- 2007 2 Georgetown
# 24 7.25 -- 1993 2 Kansas
# 24 7.25 -- 2003 2 Kansas
# 24 7.25 -- 2009 2 Michigan State
# 24 7.25 -- 1995 2 North Carolina
# 24 7.25 -- 1999 4 Ohio State
# 24 7.25 -- 2006 2 UCLA
# 33 7.50 -- 1985 1 Georgetown
# 33 7.50 -- 2002 1 Kansas
# 33 7.50 -- 1997 1 Kentucky
# 33 7.50 -- 2002 1 Maryland
# 33 7.50 -- 2000 1 Michigan State
# 33 7.50 -- 1993 1 North Carolina
# 33 7.50 -- 1998 1 North Carolina
# 33 7.50 -- 2009 1 North Carolina
# 41 7.75 -- 2010 5 Michigan State - 12,4,9,6
# 41 7.75 -- 2010 1 Duke - 16,8,4,3
# 41 7.75 -- 1988 1 Arizona
# 41 7.75 -- 1992 1 Duke
# 41 7.75 -- 1989 1 Illinois
# 41 7.75 -- 1996 1 Kentucky
# 41 7.75 -- 2008 1 Memphis
# 41 7.75 -- 1997 1 Minnesota
# 41 7.75 -- 1991 1 Nevada-Las Vegas
# 41 7.75 -- 1989 3 Seton Hall
# 41 7.75 -- 2003 3 Syracuse
# 41 7.75 -- 1995 1 UCLA
# 41 7.75 -- 1998 3 Utah
# 54 8.00 -- 1995 2 Arkansas
# 54 8.00 -- 1993 1 Kentucky
# 54 8.00 -- 1998 2 Kentucky
# 54 8.00 -- 1989 3 Michigan
# 54 8.00 -- 2008 1 North Carolina
# 54 8.00 -- 2007 1 Ohio State
# 54 8.00 -- 1987 2 Syracuse
# 61 8.25 -- 1992 4 Cincinnati
# 61 8.25 -- 2009 1 Connecticut
# 61 8.25 -- 2006 3 Florida
# 61 8.25 -- 2007 1 Florida
# 61 8.25 -- 1986 2 Louisville
# 66 8.50 -- 1988 2 Duke
# 66 8.50 -- 1989 2 Duke
# 66 8.50 -- 2004 3 Georgia Tech
# 66 8.50 -- 1985 2 Memphis
# 70 8.75 -- 2001 1 Duke
# 70 8.75 -- 1988 1 Oklahoma
# 70 8.75 -- 1998 3 Stanford
# 70 8.75 -- 1996 4 Syracuse
# 74 9.00 -- 1997 4 Arizona
# 74 9.00 -- 2004 2 Connecticut
# 74 9.00 -- 2004 1 Duke
# 74 9.00 -- 1994 3 Florida
# 74 9.00 -- 2002 5 Indiana
# 74 9.00 -- 1986 1 Kansas
# 74 9.00 -- 1988 6 Kansas
# 74 9.00 -- 2001 3 Maryland
# 74 9.00 -- 1997 1 North Carolina
# 74 9.00 -- 2005 1 North Carolina
# 84 9.25 -- 2010 2 West Virginia - 15,10,11,1
# 84 9.25 -- 1991 2 Duke
# 84 9.25 -- 2002 2 Oklahoma
# 84 9.25 -- 2003 1 Texas
# 88 9.75 -- 1987 1 Indiana
# 88 9.75 -- 1996 1 Massachusetts
# 88 9.75 -- 1987 1 Nevada-Las Vegas
# 91 10.00 -- 1994 1 Arkansas
# 91 10.00 -- 1999 1 Connecticut
# 91 10.00 -- 2005 1 Illinois
# 91 10.00 -- 1985 1 St. John's, New York
# 91 10.00 -- 2008 1 UCLA
# 96 10.25 -- 1999 1 Michigan State
# 97 10.75 -- 1990 4 Arkansas
# 97 10.75 -- 1986 1 Duke
# 97 10.75 -- 1999 1 Duke
#100 11.00 -- 1993 1 Michigan
#101 11.50 -- 2008 1 Kansas
#102 11.75 -- 1990 1 Nevada-Las Vegas
#102 11.75 -- 1991 1 North Carolina
#104 12.00 -- 2001 1 Michigan State

Lock the thread.

BL owned, just like he was in his last "rubber band" thread with A&M.

[hoopster42]

got the lucky breaks at the end vs: 12 seed new mex st, 4 seed maryland, and 6 seed tennessee. GL getting the last min breaks on sat and mon (if you get to mon)

[hoopster42]

2009 mich st = GREAT team
2010 mich st = fortunate/opportunistic team living on borrowed tim

[snapstick]

State is in the Final 4 because Kansas is out..Not hard to figure out. They played and beat the teams in front of them....why blame them? Not sure i understand the point here?

[hoopster42]

LMAO at the ignorance of the posters w/all the numbers up there, assuming that a few gms vs. mid seeds is a tough as ONE major contest vs. a TOP seed. if 1 kansas, 2 ohio st, 3 g'town are still in there by the time they play mich st, mich st goes hm.

[Unicorn7]

HOGWASH

We are blinded by history and the media.

The 4 teams that are there are there because they deserve to be there and won when they had to

I love this shit

[brock]

Butler $100 -1 big play for my. Usually bet 44=40 or 33=30