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  • EasyCover
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-01-11
    • 621

    #176
    Nice night. Thanks again.
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    • usma1992
      SBR MVP
      • 08-02-11
      • 1405

      #177
      So I examined the Over on UNC Wilmington... it turns out that of the 7 offensive statistics that I track NC A&T had negative z scores on all of them. I looked at the past over that were predicted and no other game fit that profile... so I added that filter. I know that it is after the fact... but my system... should not be predicting the over if every offensive statistic from one team is negative. As a whole the night was 3-1-1... The only loss was the filtered bet. I am glad I opened it up.

      54-33... back over 62%...
      Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET Actual Away Actual Home
      7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus Too Close 0 0
      7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Over 0 0
      9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus Too Close 0 0
      10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus Too Close 0 0
      Last edited by usma1992; 02-16-24, 09:17 AM.
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      • usma1992
        SBR MVP
        • 08-02-11
        • 1405

        #178
        Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET
        7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus U Too Close
        7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Under U
        9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus U Too Close
        10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus U Too Close

        Added U for Unfiltered ... and F for filtered bets. Good Luck.

        Columbia looks like a reasonable bet.

        Dave
        THE TEACH
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        • bubba99
          SBR Hustler
          • 01-28-15
          • 63

          #179
          Originally posted by usma1992
          Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET
          7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus U Too Close
          7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Under U
          9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus U Too Close
          10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus U Too Close

          Added U for Unfiltered ... and F for filtered bets. Good Luck.

          Columbia looks like a reasonable bet.

          Dave
          THE TEACH
          Over in Yale game right?
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          • jamesrav
            SBR Hustler
            • 06-24-20
            • 92

            #180
            Originally posted by usma1992
            Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET
            7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus U Too Close
            7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Under U
            9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus U Too Close
            10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus U Too Close

            Added U for Unfiltered ... and F for filtered bets. Good Luck.

            Columbia looks like a reasonable bet.

            Dave
            THE TEACH
            your results are holding up well, you can go 20-20 and will still be at 58%. Unquestionably impressive. The unfiltered for close games like Toledo will really test the accuracy, I applaud 'going out on a limb' so to speak and not having a margin for error that eliminates a lot of bets
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            • EasyCover
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-01-11
              • 621

              #181
              Originally posted by bubba99
              Over in Yale game right?
              Gotta be over.
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              • prolexus
                SBR Hustler
                • 04-25-10
                • 89

                #182
                At first the Yale game was OVER (8:08 post)

                Now it says UNDER (10:18 post)

                Which is it ?????
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                • bubba99
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 01-28-15
                  • 63

                  #183
                  Originally posted by EasyCover
                  Gotta be over.
                  Yes based on his projections would have to be.
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                  • usma1992
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-02-11
                    • 1405

                    #184
                    OVER... yes... must have a print out glitch... Excel has been killing me today. Sorry... glitch fixed...
                    Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET Actual Away Actual Home
                    7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus U Too Close 0 0
                    7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Over U 0 0
                    9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus U Too Close 0 0
                    10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus U Too Close 0 0
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                    • usma1992
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-02-11
                      • 1405

                      #185
                      Well, at least my error proved that a few are tracking the picks.

                      Jamesrav... Yeah my percentages are really solid. I still have a minor filter to prevent close matches. For Away + the points it is 6 points. So the 9 o'clock and 10 o'clock games barely make it, but they do make it. I can always adjust it up another few points but then you start eliminating games again.

                      I have been looking into Action Network also. My buddy uses it to track action. It isn't cheap... $150 for annual membership. I am not going to do it just yet. He did look into Columbia game and PROLINE has the Columbia spread at 15.5 or 16.5. I am at 19. Regardless, it is a game worth looking into.

                      Dave
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                      • EasyCover
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 02-01-11
                        • 621

                        #186
                        I got 137.5 on Yale /Penn over. After 1st half didn't think I'd need it.
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                        • RM Logic
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 12-09-13
                          • 847

                          #187
                          Originally posted by EasyCover
                          I got 137.5 on Yale /Penn over. After 1st half didn't think I'd need it.
                          This game should have went way over but at least it was a push at 138.
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                          • RM Logic
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 12-09-13
                            • 847

                            #188
                            Originally posted by usma1992
                            Well, at least my error proved that a few are tracking the picks.

                            Jamesrav... Yeah my percentages are really solid. I still have a minor filter to prevent close matches. For Away + the points it is 6 points. So the 9 o'clock and 10 o'clock games barely make it, but they do make it. I can always adjust it up another few points but then you start eliminating games again.

                            I have been looking into Action Network also. My buddy uses it to track action. It isn't cheap... $150 for annual membership. I am not going to do it just yet. He did look into Columbia game and PROLINE has the Columbia spread at 15.5 or 16.5. I am at 19. Regardless, it is a game worth looking into.

                            Dave
                            Question on a game I thought you would play tonite- St. Peter's -9.5 over Siena. What did your numbers show on this game. You have played against Siena (who is just terrible) alot lately so I figured you might do it again. And they lost by 22.
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                            • usma1992
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-02-11
                              • 1405

                              #189
                              RM Logic...

                              My Home- filter is 8 points... So, if you look at the Siena numbers plus take into account the spread... it just missed being a bet. I am trying to be an unbiased modeler and programmer. What ever the numbers say... they say... If a game is way off I exam... other than that... I leave it alone. Yesterday's games so you can exam.

                              Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET
                              6:00 PM HARVARD 71 CORNELL 81 151 -8.5 156.5 Too Close Too Close
                              7:00 PM MOUNT ST MARYS 75 RIDER 73 148 1.5 146.0 Too Close Too Close
                              7:00 PM SIENA 57 ST PETERS 72 129 -9.5 125.5 Too Close Too Close
                              7:00 PM VA COMMONWEALTH 76 SAINT LOUIS 66 142 5 143.5 Too Close Too Close
                              7:00 PM NIAGARA 71 FAIRFIELD 79 150 -6.5 146.5 Too Close Too Close
                              7:00 PM VILLANOVA 81 GEORGETOWN 68 148 10 139.5 Too Close Too Close
                              7:00 PM MANHATTAN 68 IONA 82 149 -13 146.0 Too Close Too Close
                              7:00 PM CANISIUS 65 MARIST 71 136 -5.5 133.5 Too Close Too Close
                              7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus U Too Close
                              7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Over U
                              7:00 PM BROWN 63 PRINCETON 79 142 -13 141.0 Too Close Too Close
                              9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus U Too Close
                              10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus U Too Close
                              7:00 PM N FLORIDA 79 KENNESAW ST 82 162 -2.5 163.5 Too Close Too Close
                              7:00 PM JACKSONVILLE 77 QUEENS U - CHAR 78 155 -2.5 151.5 Too Close Too Close
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                              • usma1992
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-02-11
                                • 1405

                                #190
                                2-1-1 Last night... I won one by .5 which is crazy because Columbia was killing them the whole time and gave their edge back at home. The Yale game pissed me off... they scored 75 in the first half and really didn't shoot well.

                                They pushed at 138... Maybe with my computer glitch yesterday... when a few questioned is it over or under... my computer apparently knew is was the exact number. This should have gone over... I doubled this bet. Got a push.

                                Dave
                                THE TEACH
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                                • usma1992
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-02-11
                                  • 1405

                                  #191
                                  Today's games.... weird day...

                                  Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET
                                  1:00 PM IUPU-FT WAYNE 87 DETROIT 63 150 9 148.0 Away Minus U Too Close
                                  1:00 PM TEXAS 60 HOUSTON 78 137 -10 131.0 Home Minus U Too Close
                                  2:00 PM AKRON 85 BUFFALO 62 148 13.5 140.5 Away Minus U Too Close
                                  2:00 PM BYU 83 OKLAHOMA ST 67 149 6 152.0 Away Minus U Too Close
                                  2:15 PM WISCONSIN 76 IOWA 79 155 1 152.5 Home Plus F Too Close
                                  6:00 PM BAYLOR 82 W VIRGINIA 67 148 7.00 147.0 Away Minus U Too Close
                                  6:00 PM KENTUCKY 73 AUBURN 81 154 -8.00 164.5 Too Close Under U
                                  6:00 PM GA SOUTHERN 62 JAMES MADISON 90 152 -19.50 151.5 Parlay ML and H- Too Close
                                  8:00 PM LONG BEACH ST 73 CS-NORTHRIDGE 75 148 1.00 162.5 Too Close Under U
                                  1:00 PM ALBANY 82 MD-BALT COUNTY 79 161 -1.00 175.0 Too Close Under U
                                  4:00 PM BETHUNE-COOKMAN 77 ALCORN ST 71 147 -3.00 148.0 Away Plus U Too Close
                                  4:00 PM NC CENTRAL 73 HOWARD 70 142 -4.00 142.0 Away Plus U Too Close
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                                  • usma1992
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-02-11
                                    • 1405

                                    #192
                                    Here is today's mess of games.... btw...this thread is now the most recently followed. I appreciate those that have taken the time to view.

                                    Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET
                                    1:00 PM IUPU-FT WAYNE 87 DETROIT 63 150 9 148.0 Away Minus U Too Close
                                    1:00 PM TEXAS 60 HOUSTON 78 137 -10 131.0 Home Minus U Too Close
                                    2:00 PM AKRON 85 BUFFALO 62 148 13.5 140.5 Away Minus U Too Close
                                    2:00 PM BYU 83 OKLAHOMA ST 67 149 6 152.0 Away Minus U Too Close
                                    2:15 PM WISCONSIN 76 IOWA 79 155 1 152.5 Home Plus F Too Close
                                    6:00 PM BAYLOR 82 W VIRGINIA 67 148 7.00 147.0 Away Minus U Too Close
                                    6:00 PM KENTUCKY 73 AUBURN 81 154 -8.00 164.5 Too Close Under U
                                    6:00 PM GA SOUTHERN 62 JAMES MADISON 90 152 -19.50 151.5 Parlay ML and H- Too Close
                                    8:00 PM LONG BEACH ST 73 CS-NORTHRIDGE 75 148 1.00 162.5 Too Close Under U
                                    1:00 PM ALBANY 82 MD-BALT COUNTY 79 161 -1.00 175.0 Too Close Under U
                                    4:00 PM BETHUNE-COOKMAN 77 ALCORN ST 71 147 -3.00 148.0 Away Plus U Too Close
                                    4:00 PM NC CENTRAL 73 HOWARD 70 142 -4.00 142.0 Away Plus U Too Close
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                                    • usma1992
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-02-11
                                      • 1405

                                      #193
                                      Sweet
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                                      • RM Logic
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 12-09-13
                                        • 847

                                        #194
                                        7-5 today. Great job again. No one wins every day but you have been really good.
                                        Keep up the great work.
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                                        • Neek762
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 02-02-24
                                          • 49

                                          #195
                                          Today was tough. Got absolutely smoked - bunch of favorites didn't do what they were supposed to
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                                          • EasyCover
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 02-01-11
                                            • 621

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by RM Logic
                                            7-5 today. Great job again. No one wins every day but you have been really good.
                                            Keep up the great work.
                                            Absolutely. Great job usma1992.
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                                            • usma1992
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-02-11
                                              • 1405

                                              #197
                                              Hey... I tweaked to eliminate bs games...

                                              Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET
                                              2:00 PM BELMONT 72 IL-CHICAGO 74 147 3 153.5 Home Plus U Too Close
                                              4:00 PM MEMPHIS 68 SMU 79 147 -4.5 155.0 Home Minus F Too Close
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                                              • usma1992
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-02-11
                                                • 1405

                                                #198
                                                I made minor adjustments to Home +... Glad it is producing winners.

                                                Dave
                                                THE TEACH
                                                OOGDA
                                                Last edited by usma1992; 02-18-24, 05:09 PM.
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                                                • usma1992
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-02-11
                                                  • 1405

                                                  #199
                                                  If it is filtered with an F next to it... go with 4.5% of your roll.

                                                  Dave
                                                  THE TEACH
                                                  OOGDA
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                                                  • EasyCover
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-01-11
                                                    • 621

                                                    #200
                                                    Do you do baseball Dave?
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                                                    • Neek762
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 02-02-24
                                                      • 49

                                                      #201
                                                      Curious what qualifies as a "BS game" ?
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                                                      • usma1992
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-02-11
                                                        • 1405

                                                        #202
                                                        Any game I lose of course... LOL... Neek you didn't get smoked because of me... somehow... I was profitable.

                                                        Dave
                                                        Last edited by usma1992; 02-18-24, 11:04 PM.
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                                                        • jamesrav
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 06-24-20
                                                          • 92

                                                          #203
                                                          Maybe he meant just the spread bets, not O/U. If I checked correctly it went 4 - 5 with 3 no bets due to 'too close'. Necessary to bet everything offered, they're all equally valid.

                                                          Doing fundamental analysis modelling can be humbling, individual game results have to be shrugged off when its 'wrong' by a lot - the only thing that matters are the long run results. Memphis/SMU total went 185, Vegas predicted 155, you were lower at 147. Does your model determine the probability of 'what if' totals, meaning what it would have thought the probability of a 185 total would be? Weird things happen ; as long as the expected happens enough and you can determine that better than they set the lines, you're doing something pretty unique.
                                                          Last edited by jamesrav; 02-19-24, 03:32 AM.
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                                                          • usma1992
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-02-11
                                                            • 1405

                                                            #204
                                                            At this point... I can't do "what ifs". I am one man crew... working two jobs and donating plasma to make ends meet. I am able to work on the model throughout the day... but it is still tough to find time. If it has an F... bet a little more than usual.

                                                            Dave
                                                            THE TEACH

                                                            Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET
                                                            8:30 PM MISS VALLEY ST 54 ALABAMA ST 83 137 -16 129.5 Parlay ML and H- Too Close
                                                            9:00 PM IOWA ST 59 HOUSTON 75 134 -9.5 127.5 Home Minus F Too Close
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                                                            • Neek762
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 02-02-24
                                                              • 49

                                                              #205
                                                              Yeah I'm playing the spread more often than not. I'm also not tailing these picks exactly, because a lot of the time I'm placing wagers the night before of I see value to be had. There are times where I do have the same games as Dave, so it is nice to see how his numbers compare, but I'm almost always looking at the spread and not the totals. I had 30 wagers in and favorites decided to shit the bed late in games. It continued into Sunday - almost hammered St Johns but decided to keep it a unit. Was feeling good about the wager at the half since they were up huge, and then they had probably the worst second half of any team this whole season. I'm still up for 2024, but Feb is on life support lol
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                                                              • usma1992
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-02-11
                                                                • 1405

                                                                #206
                                                                No games tonight... Lost both yesterday by a point each.

                                                                Dave
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                                                                • Neek762
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 02-02-24
                                                                  • 49

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Makes sense. There's some bangers today that will most likely be close
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                                                                  • usma1992
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-02-11
                                                                    • 1405

                                                                    #208
                                                                    I am a fan of ranked opponents going against each other and the under.

                                                                    Dave

                                                                    AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET
                                                                    FLORIDA 77 ALABAMA 86 163 -8 174.0 Too Close Under U
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                                                                    • Sund
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 01-18-24
                                                                      • 41

                                                                      #209
                                                                      It was a bad loss !
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                                                                      • usma1992
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-02-11
                                                                        • 1405

                                                                        #210
                                                                        There probably is a debate on last night's games and determining whether it was a win or a loss. When you model games as I do, last night's game counts as a win. I know that ultimately you lost money if you bet this game but they didn't hit the over in regulation.

                                                                        The bet was the right bet... just unlucky. Just like poker ... if you get all your money in as a 95% favorite and someone sucks out on you... that is just part of gambling that happens.

                                                                        I will post today's games in a bit.

                                                                        Dave
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