Nice night. Thanks again.
Spent two days upgrading and back testing model... Starting new 10 day trial...
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#177So I examined the Over on UNC Wilmington... it turns out that of the 7 offensive statistics that I track NC A&T had negative z scores on all of them. I looked at the past over that were predicted and no other game fit that profile... so I added that filter. I know that it is after the fact... but my system... should not be predicting the over if every offensive statistic from one team is negative. As a whole the night was 3-1-1... The only loss was the filtered bet. I am glad I opened it up.
54-33... back over 62%...
Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET Actual Away Actual Home 7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus Too Close 0 0 7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Over 0 0 9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus Too Close 0 0 10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus Too Close 0 0 Last edited by usma1992; 02-16-24, 09:17 AM.Comment -
#178Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET 7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus U Too Close 7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Under U 9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus U Too Close 10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus U Too Close
Added U for Unfiltered ... and F for filtered bets. Good Luck.
Columbia looks like a reasonable bet.
Dave
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#179Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET 7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus U Too Close 7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Under U 9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus U Too Close 10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus U Too Close
Added U for Unfiltered ... and F for filtered bets. Good Luck.
Columbia looks like a reasonable bet.
Dave
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#180Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET 7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus U Too Close 7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Under U 9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus U Too Close 10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus U Too Close
Added U for Unfiltered ... and F for filtered bets. Good Luck.
Columbia looks like a reasonable bet.
Dave
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#184OVER... yes... must have a print out glitch... Excel has been killing me today. Sorry... glitch fixed...
Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET Actual Away Actual Home 7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus U Too Close 0 0 7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Over U 0 0 9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus U Too Close 0 0 10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus U Too Close 0 0 Comment -
#185Well, at least my error proved that a few are tracking the picks.
Jamesrav... Yeah my percentages are really solid. I still have a minor filter to prevent close matches. For Away + the points it is 6 points. So the 9 o'clock and 10 o'clock games barely make it, but they do make it. I can always adjust it up another few points but then you start eliminating games again.
I have been looking into Action Network also. My buddy uses it to track action. It isn't cheap... $150 for annual membership. I am not going to do it just yet. He did look into Columbia game and PROLINE has the Columbia spread at 15.5 or 16.5. I am at 19. Regardless, it is a game worth looking into.
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#188Well, at least my error proved that a few are tracking the picks.
Jamesrav... Yeah my percentages are really solid. I still have a minor filter to prevent close matches. For Away + the points it is 6 points. So the 9 o'clock and 10 o'clock games barely make it, but they do make it. I can always adjust it up another few points but then you start eliminating games again.
I have been looking into Action Network also. My buddy uses it to track action. It isn't cheap... $150 for annual membership. I am not going to do it just yet. He did look into Columbia game and PROLINE has the Columbia spread at 15.5 or 16.5. I am at 19. Regardless, it is a game worth looking into.
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#189RM Logic...
My Home- filter is 8 points... So, if you look at the Siena numbers plus take into account the spread... it just missed being a bet. I am trying to be an unbiased modeler and programmer. What ever the numbers say... they say... If a game is way off I exam... other than that... I leave it alone. Yesterday's games so you can exam.
Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET 6:00 PM HARVARD 71 CORNELL 81 151 -8.5 156.5 Too Close Too Close 7:00 PM MOUNT ST MARYS 75 RIDER 73 148 1.5 146.0 Too Close Too Close 7:00 PM SIENA 57 ST PETERS 72 129 -9.5 125.5 Too Close Too Close 7:00 PM VA COMMONWEALTH 76 SAINT LOUIS 66 142 5 143.5 Too Close Too Close 7:00 PM NIAGARA 71 FAIRFIELD 79 150 -6.5 146.5 Too Close Too Close 7:00 PM VILLANOVA 81 GEORGETOWN 68 148 10 139.5 Too Close Too Close 7:00 PM MANHATTAN 68 IONA 82 149 -13 146.0 Too Close Too Close 7:00 PM CANISIUS 65 MARIST 71 136 -5.5 133.5 Too Close Too Close 7:00 PM DARTMOUTH 62 COLUMBIA 81 143 -9.5 135.5 Home Minus U Too Close 7:00 PM YALE 81 PENNSYLVANIA 71 152 6.5 138.0 Too Close Over U 7:00 PM BROWN 63 PRINCETON 79 142 -13 141.0 Too Close Too Close 9:00 PM OHIO U 79 TOLEDO 79 158 -6 160.0 Away Plus U Too Close 10:00 PM NEW MEXICO 73 SAN DIEGO ST 72 145 -6 152.5 Away Plus U Too Close 7:00 PM N FLORIDA 79 KENNESAW ST 82 162 -2.5 163.5 Too Close Too Close 7:00 PM JACKSONVILLE 77 QUEENS U - CHAR 78 155 -2.5 151.5 Too Close Too Close Comment -
#1902-1-1 Last night... I won one by .5 which is crazy because Columbia was killing them the whole time and gave their edge back at home. The Yale game pissed me off... they scored 75 in the first half and really didn't shoot well.
They pushed at 138... Maybe with my computer glitch yesterday... when a few questioned is it over or under... my computer apparently knew is was the exact number. This should have gone over... I doubled this bet. Got a push.
Dave
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#191Today's games.... weird day...
Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET 1:00 PM IUPU-FT WAYNE 87 DETROIT 63 150 9 148.0 Away Minus U Too Close 1:00 PM TEXAS 60 HOUSTON 78 137 -10 131.0 Home Minus U Too Close 2:00 PM AKRON 85 BUFFALO 62 148 13.5 140.5 Away Minus U Too Close 2:00 PM BYU 83 OKLAHOMA ST 67 149 6 152.0 Away Minus U Too Close 2:15 PM WISCONSIN 76 IOWA 79 155 1 152.5 Home Plus F Too Close 6:00 PM BAYLOR 82 W VIRGINIA 67 148 7.00 147.0 Away Minus U Too Close 6:00 PM KENTUCKY 73 AUBURN 81 154 -8.00 164.5 Too Close Under U 6:00 PM GA SOUTHERN 62 JAMES MADISON 90 152 -19.50 151.5 Parlay ML and H- Too Close 8:00 PM LONG BEACH ST 73 CS-NORTHRIDGE 75 148 1.00 162.5 Too Close Under U 1:00 PM ALBANY 82 MD-BALT COUNTY 79 161 -1.00 175.0 Too Close Under U 4:00 PM BETHUNE-COOKMAN 77 ALCORN ST 71 147 -3.00 148.0 Away Plus U Too Close 4:00 PM NC CENTRAL 73 HOWARD 70 142 -4.00 142.0 Away Plus U Too Close Comment -
#192Here is today's mess of games.... btw...this thread is now the most recently followed. I appreciate those that have taken the time to view.
Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET 1:00 PM IUPU-FT WAYNE 87 DETROIT 63 150 9 148.0 Away Minus U Too Close 1:00 PM TEXAS 60 HOUSTON 78 137 -10 131.0 Home Minus U Too Close 2:00 PM AKRON 85 BUFFALO 62 148 13.5 140.5 Away Minus U Too Close 2:00 PM BYU 83 OKLAHOMA ST 67 149 6 152.0 Away Minus U Too Close 2:15 PM WISCONSIN 76 IOWA 79 155 1 152.5 Home Plus F Too Close 6:00 PM BAYLOR 82 W VIRGINIA 67 148 7.00 147.0 Away Minus U Too Close 6:00 PM KENTUCKY 73 AUBURN 81 154 -8.00 164.5 Too Close Under U 6:00 PM GA SOUTHERN 62 JAMES MADISON 90 152 -19.50 151.5 Parlay ML and H- Too Close 8:00 PM LONG BEACH ST 73 CS-NORTHRIDGE 75 148 1.00 162.5 Too Close Under U 1:00 PM ALBANY 82 MD-BALT COUNTY 79 161 -1.00 175.0 Too Close Under U 4:00 PM BETHUNE-COOKMAN 77 ALCORN ST 71 147 -3.00 148.0 Away Plus U Too Close 4:00 PM NC CENTRAL 73 HOWARD 70 142 -4.00 142.0 Away Plus U Too Close Comment -
#197Hey... I tweaked to eliminate bs games...
Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET 2:00 PM BELMONT 72 IL-CHICAGO 74 147 3 153.5 Home Plus U Too Close 4:00 PM MEMPHIS 68 SMU 79 147 -4.5 155.0 Home Minus F Too Close Comment -
#203Maybe he meant just the spread bets, not O/U. If I checked correctly it went 4 - 5 with 3 no bets due to 'too close'. Necessary to bet everything offered, they're all equally valid.
Doing fundamental analysis modelling can be humbling, individual game results have to be shrugged off when its 'wrong' by a lot - the only thing that matters are the long run results. Memphis/SMU total went 185, Vegas predicted 155, you were lower at 147. Does your model determine the probability of 'what if' totals, meaning what it would have thought the probability of a 185 total would be? Weird things happen ; as long as the expected happens enough and you can determine that better than they set the lines, you're doing something pretty unique.Last edited by jamesrav; 02-19-24, 03:32 AM.Comment -
#204At this point... I can't do "what ifs". I am one man crew... working two jobs and donating plasma to make ends meet. I am able to work on the model throughout the day... but it is still tough to find time. If it has an F... bet a little more than usual.
Dave
THE TEACH
Time AWAY TEAM PROJ AWAY SCORE HOME TEAM PROJ HOME SCORE TOTAL VEGAS SPREAD VEGAS O/U SPREAD BET O/U BET 8:30 PM MISS VALLEY ST 54 ALABAMA ST 83 137 -16 129.5 Parlay ML and H- Too Close 9:00 PM IOWA ST 59 HOUSTON 75 134 -9.5 127.5 Home Minus F Too Close Comment -
#205Yeah I'm playing the spread more often than not. I'm also not tailing these picks exactly, because a lot of the time I'm placing wagers the night before of I see value to be had. There are times where I do have the same games as Dave, so it is nice to see how his numbers compare, but I'm almost always looking at the spread and not the totals. I had 30 wagers in and favorites decided to shit the bed late in games. It continued into Sunday - almost hammered St Johns but decided to keep it a unit. Was feeling good about the wager at the half since they were up huge, and then they had probably the worst second half of any team this whole season. I'm still up for 2024, but Feb is on life support lolComment -
#210There probably is a debate on last night's games and determining whether it was a win or a loss. When you model games as I do, last night's game counts as a win. I know that ultimately you lost money if you bet this game but they didn't hit the over in regulation.
The bet was the right bet... just unlucky. Just like poker ... if you get all your money in as a 95% favorite and someone sucks out on you... that is just part of gambling that happens.
I will post today's games in a bit.
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