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  • 2daBank
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-26-09
    • 88966

    #246
    Agree with your disagreement with KP. If you look the reason Clara's pace is so slow cause their opponents have been slow to shoot, shouldn't have that problem with sc!!
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    • HeeluvaGuy
      SBR MVP
      • 02-15-14
      • 3449

      #247
      Originally posted by 2daBank
      Agree with your disagreement with KP. If you look the reason Clara's pace is so slow cause their opponents have been slow to shoot, shouldn't have that problem with sc!!
      Glad to be on the same side. Just hope Santa Clara can do its part.

      Take a a look at Davis for Friday. Probably gonna make a small ML play too on that one.
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #248
        Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
        Glad to be on the same side. Just hope Santa Clara can do its part.

        Take a a look at Davis for Friday. Probably gonna make a small ML play too on that one.
        Will do. Was planning on just chilling till Saturday but got bored and thought that over looked solid. Still bored so I'll check them out.

        Far as Clara doing their part im not too worried. Take and make good amount of 3s and sc perimeter d not all that hot. Long as they get in 60s should be golden.
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #249
          Feels like one those get right games where the fav runs it up on a little guy after getting their butts whipped last several games by legit comp.
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          • HeeluvaGuy
            SBR MVP
            • 02-15-14
            • 3449

            #250
            We see this one alike. BOL!
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            • 2daBank
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-26-09
              • 88966

              #251
              Little worried bout Davis lack of size/rebounding but San Fran doesn't exactly feed it down low much with success and they take entirely too many 3s considering how poorly they shoot it.. definitely dog or nothing.
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              • HeeluvaGuy
                SBR MVP
                • 02-15-14
                • 3449

                #252
                1-0 night. Never a doubt, right? Kenpom was right on about the pace in that one. Fortunately, we didn't need he extra possessions.

                Thread: 37-35 (+2.29u)
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                • 2daBank
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #253
                  I couldn't get that 140.5, ended up with a push,, like I said we needed Clara to get into 60s and fukkers came up just short. Good get on the number!
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                  • HeeluvaGuy
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-15-14
                    • 3449

                    #254
                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                    I couldn't get that 140.5, ended up with a push,, like I said we needed Clara to get into 60s and fukkers came up just short. Good get on the number!
                    USC probably missed 10 shots inside three feet. But considering how this one started, a push was a win.
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                    • HeeluvaGuy
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-15-14
                      • 3449

                      #255
                      0-1 Friday.

                      Thread: 37-36 (+1.19u)

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                      • HeeluvaGuy
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-15-14
                        • 3449

                        #256
                        Here's what I have for Saturday so far with some short notes:

                        2:30 Central Michigan/Southern Utah u155
                        I have this game at 67 possessions (kenpom 71). At that pace this one should stay well under 155. CMU hasn’t played a D-1 game in the 150s.

                        3:30 Illinois St/Ole Miss o147

                        I get 73 possessions for this one. At that pace Ole Miss shouldn’t have any trouble doing its part. We’ll need the Redbirds to get to the 70s, which should be doable.

                        4:00 College of Charleston/Rhode Island o135

                        I get 70 possessions, which is close to the kenpom number. Neither team is stellar offensively, but they don’t have to be if we can get to 70 possessions, especially if URI can get easy transition baskets and C of C can get to the free throw line.

                        4:30 Clemson/Florida o144.5
                        74+ possessions

                        8:00 SEMO/Kansas St o145

                        I get a decent pace at around 72 possessions. K-State should have no trouble scoring. We’ll need SEMO to chip in 65+. They haven’t played anyone as good as K-State, but they have scored 70+ in 9 of 10 games.

                        8:00 North Dakota/Gonzaga o160

                        I think Gonzaga gets 100 or so here, which should be enough to get us to the over.


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                        • CappinTerp
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-26-09
                          • 9650

                          #257
                          Yea bro,hope we all have a profitable day !!.......
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                          • Louisvillekid1
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-17-07
                            • 52143

                            #258
                            Get em
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                            • HeeluvaGuy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-15-14
                              • 3449

                              #259
                              One addition:

                              4:00 Fullerton/California o139
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                              • doubledime
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 04-22-09
                                • 9751

                                #260
                                Short and concise analysis. Like it Good luck
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                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-15-14
                                  • 3449

                                  #261
                                  4-3 on Saturday. It wasn't pretty, but I'll take it. Three of the wins were laughers, and a couple of the losses could have easily swung our way.

                                  Thread: 41-39 (+1.89u)


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                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-15-14
                                    • 3449

                                    #262
                                    First one for Sunday:
                                    4:00 Penn St/George Mason u145
                                    I have 69 possessions here and I don’t think George Mason can score enough at that pace to put this one over.


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                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-17-07
                                      • 52143

                                      #263
                                      Hella

                                      can i speak freely?

                                      Your approach is next to none

                                      and you being happy w/ 5-15x

                                      tells me your units 1k +

                                      i wanna recruit you on my team

                                      if your willing

                                      Dm me

                                      -building life changing $$$ our goal
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                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-15-14
                                        • 3449

                                        #264
                                        ^Thanks for the compliment. I'm not sure how to respond to the rest, but I'm intrigued.
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                                        • HeeluvaGuy
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-15-14
                                          • 3449

                                          #265
                                          Still tinkering a bit with Sunday:

                                          5:00 Texas St/Colorado St u135
                                          I agree with kenpom on a low possession game here (64). I actually see a way it could go lower. Regardless, the upper end of my estimate for this one is 132, and both teams would probably have to deviate pretty far from their norms to get there.
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                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-17-07
                                            • 52143

                                            #266
                                            Great work
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                                            • HeeluvaGuy
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-15-14
                                              • 3449

                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                              Great work
                                              Thanks. The second one was a weird game, but a win is a win I guess.
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                                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-15-14
                                                • 3449

                                                #268
                                                2-0 day. The last game was weird with 73 first half points and then CSU made only 3 FGs in the second half. Their 17 made FTs was the only reason it was close late. The heavy foul calls added a couple of extra possessions, but fortunately the teams cooled off in the second.

                                                Thread: 43-39 (+3.89u)
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                                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-15-14
                                                  • 3449

                                                  #269
                                                  Monday:

                                                  Northeastern/Kent St u140.5
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                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                    • 3449

                                                    #270
                                                    9:00 Youngstown St/Idaho St u159
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                                                    • jameski999
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-17-11
                                                      • 1540

                                                      #271
                                                      If you have time can you share your numbers for this Kansas/Omaha game tonight. Just looks like a lot of points will be scored. Would I be crazy to think Kansas has a chance to put up 105-107 points?
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                                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-17-07
                                                        • 52143

                                                        #272
                                                        Gl today

                                                        i think Kansas could have 50 @ half

                                                        but maybe pull off late
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                                                        • HeeluvaGuy
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-15-14
                                                          • 3449

                                                          #273
                                                          Originally posted by jameski999
                                                          If you have time can you share your numbers for this Kansas/Omaha game tonight. Just looks like a lot of points will be scored. Would I be crazy to think Kansas has a chance to put up 105-107 points?
                                                          Not crazy, but this is a difficult game for me. Omaha is atrocious defensively. Using really conservative numbers, I get 83 points for KU. But a more realistic approach gives me 93-96. Honestly, KU should be able to score whatever it wants, but the wide range in my numbers kind of illustrates how sensitive these games with extreme efficiencies can be. I was looking at this one last night at 153/154, and should have just played it. But I waited and missed the good line.

                                                          FWIW, I ran my power ratings based model for the first this season for today's games and I get 107-66. The model isn't very sophisticated, however, and is just a tool that I use.

                                                          BOL with whatever you decide!
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                                                          • HeeluvaGuy
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-15-14
                                                            • 3449

                                                            #274
                                                            For anyone interested, here's a link to my model predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                                                            I don't think I'll have the time to keep this up daily, so I'm not sure how useful it will be.
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                                                            • doubledime
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 04-22-09
                                                              • 9751

                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                              For anyone interested, here's a link to my model predictions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                                                              I don't think I'll have the time to keep this up daily, so I'm not sure how useful it will be.
                                                              Always good stuff
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                                                              • jameski999
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-17-11
                                                                • 1540

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                                Not crazy, but this is a difficult game for me. Omaha is atrocious defensively. Using really conservative numbers, I get 83 points for KU. But a more realistic approach gives me 93-96. Honestly, KU should be able to score whatever it wants, but the wide range in my numbers kind of illustrates how sensitive these games with extreme efficiencies can be. I was looking at this one last night at 153/154, and should have just played it. But I waited and missed the good line.

                                                                FWIW, I ran my power ratings based model for the first this season for today's games and I get 107-66. The model isn't very sophisticated, however, and is just a tool that I use.

                                                                BOL with whatever you decide!
                                                                Power rating model looks pretty sharp.
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                                                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-15-14
                                                                  • 3449

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by jameski999
                                                                  Power rating model looks pretty sharp.
                                                                  Haha. Blind squirrel and all that.
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                                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                                    • 3449

                                                                    #278
                                                                    1-1 night. I misjudged the pace of the Northeastern/Kent game, but Northeastern's efficiency was going to be a problem even if I had been right.

                                                                    Thread: 44-40 (+3.79u)

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                                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                                      • 3449

                                                                      #279
                                                                      For Tuesday:

                                                                      8:00 UIC/Illinois St o144
                                                                      I get 75+ possessions here. UIC isn't great offensively, but they should get to the FT line enough to give us close to 70.
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                                                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-15-14
                                                                        • 3449

                                                                        #280
                                                                        7:00 South Carolina/Clemson o136.5
                                                                        I know there will be a lot of defense here, but I get a game played to 70+ possessions. At that pace I like at least one team to get to the 70s and for this one to creep over.
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