John Morrison 2011-12 NBA Thread

[HotStaX]

hey Wallco sorry to break your balls man, i was wondering if you had a link to JM's guidelines and rules?

[Wallco99]

hey Wallco sorry to break your balls man, i was wondering if you had a link to JM's guidelines and rules?

Sorry about that, I guess you were confusing the 2 systems. I believe the .pdf's for JM are a few pages back, they were posted the other day.

[Swan4brownlow]

Any news about whether Bargnani is playing?

[dlunc3]

barg is playing and starting


knicks up 17 and mello only has 1 pt

[Maxi_EV]

[Wallco99]

Today we'll see walco system sucks or not :>

I guess we did...now didn't we?

[Wallco99]

Hey Maxi Ev, don't forget those Sabres.
What a great night!!!!

[Maxi_EV]

Hey Maxi Ev, don't forget those Sabres.
What a great night!!!!

[COBRA31]

Are u playing each bet to win... 1 unit ? Or do you use a labby or other strategy. For the Chase110. I see it was 85-0 last season. If a 70 unit loss was suffered tonight it would have almost whipped out the entire previous season.

Curious on the prevailing strategy here ?

[Maxi_EV]

Are u playing each bet to win... 1 unit ? Or do you use a labby or other strategy. For the Chase110. I see it was 85-0 last season. If a 70 unit loss was suffered tonight it would have almost whipped out the entire previous season.

Curious on the prevailing strategy here ?

I am not a labbyer. I prefer Martingale with propper bankroll management.

[bisturis]

To anyone who's interested. I checked limits at the sportsbook this morning and the only time they require personal information is if you hit on 300-1 odds on a parlay. Other than that there is no limit.

Thanks for checking that out for us!

[Swan4brownlow]

raptors better not choke for us -110 players

[Riceboi]

so just to calirfy. when you guys are talking about the B/C games and the 7/5 method for example. You would follow the JM system rules, and wait for an A bet to fail and then bet 7 units on the B bet (whether it be buying 3 points or playing the ML), and if it fails then bet 5 units on the C bet?

Do I have this right? Just trying to understand because of all the different versions and methods discussed in this thread.

And then Wallco's Chase 110 method is a 4 game chase without buying points?

[Wallco99]

Clean sweep in NHL and NBA, 7-0 for the night (+47 units), quite an evening.

[Wallco99]

Are u playing each bet to win... 1 unit ? Or do you use a labby or other strategy. For the Chase110. I see it was 85-0 last season. If a 70 unit loss was suffered tonight it would have almost whipped out the entire previous season.

Curious on the prevailing strategy here ?

I am currently working on a strategy that will eliminate the money line plays. It will take a little time. For now, the play is M/L on favorites, or option B, skip those series.

[jcygts6]

Nice wins for us on cavs and craptors!! If it wasnt for me we would have forgot to play them tonite and miss 2 wins

[1gamer]

KNICKERBOCKERS CASH IT!

CLEVELAND CASH IT!

RAPTORS CASH IT!

[Wallco99]

so just to calirfy. when you guys are talking about the B/C games and the 7/5 method for example. You would follow the JM system rules, and wait for an A bet to fail and then bet 7 units on the B bet (whether it be buying 3 points or playing the ML), and if it fails then bet 5 units on the C bet?

Do I have this right? Just trying to understand because of all the different versions and methods discussed in this thread.

And then Wallco's Chase 110 method is a 4 game chase without buying points?

Do not use 7/5 method until we have finished testing.

1.) We don't know for sure of it's success, even though I believe it will be a winning method.
2.) If you lose a series or two, the next step will be to log on here and bash us, telling us that 7/5 sucks, and I am really not in the mood for that right now.
3.) If you happen to do good in a series or two, then you may start to play 7/5 in other systems which may turn out to be a disaster for that particular system. We are currently testing several of the systems on this forum to see which methods are most effective for that particular system. We have clearly stated that we don't reccommend doing this yet, and somehow, several people refuse to read those posts and convince themselves that this is a proven strategy. Please have patience, your bankroll may thank you later.

[bisturis]

so just to calirfy. when you guys are talking about the B/C games and the 7/5 method for example. You would follow the JM system rules, and wait for an A bet to fail and then bet 7 units on the B bet (whether it be buying 3 points or playing the ML), and if it fails then bet 5 units on the C bet? Do I have this right? Just trying to understand because of all the different versions and methods discussed in this thread. And then Wallco's Chase 110 method is a 4 game chase without buying points?

You are NOT using any new methods for money management right now. Wallco has stated multiple times to wait until all back testing is completed.

[bisturis]

Thank you!! What a night!! Yeah buddy!

[Riceboi]

Do not use 7/5 method until we have finished testing. 1.) We don't know for sure of it's success, even though I believe it will be a winning method. 2.) If you lose a series or two, the next step will be to log on here and bash us, telling us that 7/5 sucks, and I am really not in the mood for that right now. 3.) If you happen to do good in a series or two, then you may start to play 7/5 in other systems which may turn out to be a disaster for that particular system. We are currently testing several of the systems on this forum to see which methods are most effective for that particular system. We have clearly stated that we don't reccommend doing this yet, and somehow, several people refuse to read those posts and convince themselves that this is a proven strategy. Please have patience, your bankroll may thank you later.

You are NOT using any new methods for money management right now. Wallco has stated multiple times to wait until all back testing is completed.

i'm not planning on using any new methods, just making sure I understand this whole thing correctly? I haven't even been playing wallco's method, just keeping track of this thread. Haven't been playing ANYTHING.

just trying to understand the difference between chase 110 (wallco's) and JM's method.

[Wallco99]

Nice wins for us on cavs and craptors!! If it wasnt for me we would have forgot to play them tonite and miss 2 wins

Thank you for that, but I would have caught it by 5:30 anyway. I wrote the wrong dates down this morning, but my master sheet had the correct dates, that is the sheet I use to place my wagers, so I definitely would have seen it. But I appreciate you posting that earlier in the day for everyone to see before I got back.

[Wallco99]

i'm not planning on using any new methods, just making sure I understand this whole thing correctly? I haven't even been playing wallco's method, just keeping track of this thread. Haven't been playing ANYTHING.

just trying to understand the difference between chase 110 (wallco's) and JM's method.

My system is a four game chase, the rules and backtest can be found in post #834. We are working on strategies to eliminate the M/L plays, and maximize our profits by placing fewer bets for more units. Right now, all systems on this thread are to win 1 unit per series, and that alone has 4 or 5 different methods of play. Some folks are playing B & C only to win 3 units, that has been proven effective last year by Wilba. Others are playing all -110, including myself, however, my method is 1-3-5 for now, until I can prove 7/5 is more effective.

It's a shame you haven't been playing Chase 110. it's 106-0 since beginning of last season.

[Riceboi]

My system is a four game chase, the rules and backtest can be found in post #834. We are working on strategies to eliminate the M/L plays, and maximize our profits by placing fewer bets for more units. Right now, all systems on this thread are to win 1 unit per series, and that alone has 4 or 5 different methods of play. Some folks are playing B & C only to win 3 units, that has been proven effective last year by Wilba. Others are playing all -110, including myself, however, my method is 1-3-5 for now, until I can prove 7/5 is more effective. It's a shame you haven't been playing Chase 110. it's 106-0 since beginning of last season.

so the people playing B/C only wait for an A play to miss and then bet to win 3 units on B and if that misses then for C they bet to win what they lost in bet B plus 3 more units?

[COBRA31]

I am not a labbyer. I prefer Martingale with propper bankroll management.

So if you want to win 1 unit on A bet. We'll say Unit is $10 for simplicity. The team on A is favored so you take ml @-230. Total wager is then $23 to win $10. If you lose you then double using martingale and try to win $46 ? If team is favored again and ml is @ -230 then total wager is around $106 to win $46 ?

Or....do you just total wager say $10 and take whatever profit comes with that based on -110 or ml (say -230). If you lose then B bet is just doubled to total wager $20 ?

Appreciate the feedback.

[Wallco99]

so the people playing B/C only wait for an A play to miss and then bet to win 3 units on B and if that misses then for C they bet to win what they lost in bet B plus 3 more units?

Yes, I believe they are also buying the 3 points.

[Wallco99]

So if you want to win 1 unit on A bet. We'll say Unit is $10 for simplicity. The team on A is favored so you take ml @-230. Total wager is then $23 to win $10. If you lose you then double using martingale and try to win $46 ? If team is favored again and ml is @ -230 then total wager is around $106 to win $46 ?

Or....do you just total wager say $10 and take whatever profit comes with that based on -110 or ml (say -230). If you lose then B bet is just doubled to total wager $20 ?

Appreciate the feedback.

No, your second bet would be $23 + $ 10. If that loses, (C) bet will be the total of all losses + $10.

[patocarranza84]

Wallco I have a problem on my C and B bets pending,,,Orl and Bos meat each other could you guide me?

[1gamer]

What is that 133-0 Over two seasons?

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it,"

I'm just sayin,

[Wallco99]

Wallco I have a problem on my C and B bets pending,,,Orl and Bos meat each other could you guide me?

Skip that game, and pick up the losing team on the next bet, for the amount you would normally play that bet for. The math will work itself out. Did you ever answer my question yesterday?

NOTE: I say the losing team, but in your case, you are playing a fade, so the team that wins the game is actually the "losing" team in the system. I hope you understand what that means.

[COBRA31]

No, your second bet would be $23 + $ 10. If that loses, (C) bet will be the total of all losses + $10.

Thanks Wallco...

So on the 1,3,5 system.
Using $10 unit again...your total wager on A @ -110 is $11. A is loss
B is 3 x$10 + $11(A). So $41 @-110 is $45.10 total wager for B.
C is then 5x$10 + $11(A)+$45.10(B). So $105.10 @-110 is $115.61 total wager for C.

Sorry for the newbie question again. You've been a great help.

[Wallco99]

What is that 133-0 Over two seasons?

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it,"

I'm just sayin,

106-0, but that is good also.

[Wallco99]

Thanks Wallco...

So on the 1,3,5 system.
Using $10 unit again...your total wager on A @ -110 is $11. A is loss
B is 3 x$10 + $11(A). So $41 @-110 is $45.10 total wager for B.
C is then 5x$10 + $11(A)+$45.10(B). So $105.10 @-110 is $115.61 total wager for C.

Sorry for the newbie question again. You've been a great help.

I believe you've got it. That math looks correct. A total loss should be -17.28 units every time.

[patocarranza84]

Skip that game, and pick up the losing team on the next bet, for the amount you would normally play that bet for. The math will work itself out. Did you ever answer my question yesterday?

NOTE: I say the losing team, but in your case, you are playing a fade, so the team that wins the game is actually the "losing" team in the system. I hope you understand what that means.

About the question, I dont know why I didnt mark it as a win in my notebook,,,But you stop me in a big error,,Thanks

[COBRA31]

I believe you've got it. That math looks correct. A total loss should be -17.28 units every time.

Great...wanted to make sure I was on the same page.

I tried to give you some of these newly earned points...but wouldn't let me