How in the hell is Utah only -2?

**demens** · 02-07-11, 01:54 PM

OP is too funny. I bet despite your 10-1 (or whatever it is) start you'll be in the red within 2 weeks.

**lunchbawks** · 02-07-11, 01:54 PM

i think utah is about to go on a big winning streak

**BernardMadoff** · 02-07-11, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by cleaveland

I see what you mean but 35-9 is more or less like the second or third best home record in the league the last few years. It's like if this guy reffed every single Laker home game this is the result you'd expect. That's way above the league average, I think it's a sign he's a homer ref or he's swayed way too much by home crowds.

Now watch the Jazz will shoot twice as many free throws as the Kings.

J/K I'd be very concerned about these refs for this game.

Looking at other stats he does seem somewhat of a homer, 6-1 home dog when spread is 0-4.5. He's only 36, a baby amongst refs and could possibly be weak as you said, being influenced by the roar and chants of the crowd.

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by GarbageMan

Not wanting to dampen your confidence, but there's a few other stats to take into consideration....

Utah is 1-6 ATS in its last 7 games on the road
Utah is 3-7 ATS in its last 10 games when playing on the road against Sacramento
Sacramento is 12-4 SU in its last 16 games when playing at home against Utah

Yeah, check the spreads guy, in comparison to today's spread. all something like 8 points and higher. This is a 2 point spread, that got horribly deflated/inflated due to Utah's recent game play.

**Power Play** · 02-07-11, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by BernardMadoff

Looking at other stats he does seem somewhat of a homer, 6-1 home dog when spread is 0-4.5. He's only 36, a baby amongst refs and could possibly be weak as you said, being influenced by the roar and chants of the crowd.

Maybe that's why the spread is so low. GSW does have one of the better home crowds in the NBA despite their incompetancies.

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by demens

OP is too funny. I bet despite your 10-1 (or whatever it is) start you'll be in the red within 2 weeks.

I've been betting professionally for over 4 years. I appreciate the vote of negativity, however maybe I will hit the red around my 9th or 10th year of betting. Jee I hope not!!

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by Power Play

Maybe that's why the spread is so low. GSW does have one of the better home crowds in the NBA despite their incompetancies.

It's Sac, not GSW. Which makes this even better. Utah covers this with ease!!

**Whippit** · 02-07-11, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by politicin

You're an idiot.

have the gonads to confront me w/your true identity, ghostboy

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by vyomguy

chicago looked easy against warriors few days back...look what happened. Avoid late games with huge public backing...those are the burial games...especially when books lost every game in nba, nhl and nfl yesterday.

Warriors are a way better team than Sacramento, hence why I didn't take that wager, and wouldn't have advised you, or anyone else to have.

**lunchbawks** · 02-07-11, 01:59 PM

on first look, Utah is the most appealing play tonight.

also like the under 199.5?

**vyomguy** · 02-07-11, 01:59 PM

chicago looked easy against warriors few days back...look what happened. Avoid late games with huge public backing...those are the burial games...especially when books lost every game in nba, nhl and nfl yesterday.

NBA...where amazing happens.

**Whippit** · 02-07-11, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by politicin

I've been betting professionally for over 4 years. I appreciate the vote of negativity, however maybe I will hit the red around my 9th or 10th year of betting. Jee I hope not!!

haha, now I know who this is

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by lunchbawks

on first look, Utah is the most appealing play tonight.

also like the under 199.5?

Easily the most appealing game of the night. I don't have a lean on the total however. Good luck tonight Bawks!!

**Power Play** · 02-07-11, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by politicin

It's Sac, not GSW. Which makes this even better. Utah covers this with ease!!

LOL that was dumb

**BernardMadoff** · 02-07-11, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by cleaveland

This was answered in the article I posted today. Read this quote from Bill Russel and hopefully you'll read the rest of the article:

Observe what else Russell had to say in the same passage:

"It seems to me that the NBA has gone out of its way to keep its referees poor and incompetent...for years I tried to get the league to hire a black referee and recommended more than a dozen good ones. They always found a way not to hire the ones I recommended, but at the same time officials kept telling me they were looking for "qualified black referees." They always used that adjective: referees were either plain referees or were "qualified Negro referees." Finally, in frustration I sent in the name of a referee who was famous as a bumbling idiot, so the NBA hired him, of course, and he was terrible. He couldn't tell a rulebook from a slide rule, and was a walking argument against affirmative action. The protests against him were so universal that I finally got a call asking why I'd recommended him. "I got tired of recommending 'qualified black referees,'" I said, "So I decided to recommend an unqualified one for a change, and that's the one you picked."

Read the rest of the article here:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/nba-basket...xed-games.html

Sad and hilarious at the same time, I LOL'ed, gotta love Russell.

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 02:04 PM

Some of you guys are such idiots. I bet alot of you are still waiting on Jim Morrison or Janis Joplin to release another album. Give it up, they're dead, and the NBA isn't rigged, you just suck at capping games.

**kaijunn** · 02-07-11, 02:09 PM

i like utah as well, even without ak47 at -2..looks good.

**GarbageMan** · 02-07-11, 02:11 PM

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**vyomguy** · 02-07-11, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by politicin

and the NBA isn't rigged

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 02:13 PM

I'm talking in regards to the spreads with Sacramento. Idc about them playing Boston, SA, OKC, Denver, GSW, Houston. I'm talking about SACRAMENTO. Anyway not going to debate, tail or fade. Anybody passing up on this is an idiot. Bye.

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by vyomguy

Who's laughing? You're the fool who believes the nba to be rigged and still puts money on it. Who's the sucker?

is right, degenerate...

**demens** · 02-07-11, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by politicin

Yeah, check the spreads guy, in comparison to today's spread. all something like 8 points and higher. This is a 2 point spread, that got horribly deflated/inflated due to Utah's recent game play.

Is has got to be a joke account. Too funny.

For those that are curious about the actual facts, Utah has never had an 8 point spread on the road this year, they were only favorites by more then 4 points just 4 times.

**demens** · 02-07-11, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Whippit

haha, now I know who this is

Is it King/Avon? Barry Banter?

**WHATaTEASE** · 02-07-11, 02:18 PM

Sac been playing better as of late, Cousins has been dominant and Tyreke has been extremely consistent. Jazz have not, they have some quality wins but are anything but consistent . They lost to a GSW team where Monta only scored 2 points, and covered the spread at home against a Boston team, and in that game Sac led for most of it. I am not playing this because in my eyes it all depends which Utah team shows up. Utah is one of a couple NBA teams where I will only play them when I feel they are in a prime spot with a favorable spread. This is not one of them BoL, though.

**GarbageMan** · 02-07-11, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by politicin

I'm talking in regards to the spreads with Sacramento. Idc about them playing Boston, SA, OKC, Denver, GSW, Houston. I'm talking about SACRAMENTO. Anyway not going to debate, tail or fade. Anybody passing up on this is an idiot. Bye.

Cool your jets man, not having a pop at you, just thought you started the thread to debate the game?

**GarbageMan** · 02-07-11, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by demens

Is has got to be a joke account. Too funny.

For those that are curious about the actual facts, Utah has never had an 8 point spread on the road this year, they were only favorites by more then 4 points just 4 times.

He meant vs SAC on the road, just didn't make it very clear.......

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by demens

Is has got to be a joke account. Too funny.

For those that are curious about the actual facts, Utah has never had an 8 point spread on the road this year, they were only favorites by more then 4 points just 4 times.

I guess you fail at reading. Every time Utah has played Sac, Sac has been favored by 7-8 or more the majority of the time. That was what I said. You fail at comprehension. Funnier you won't put up money against me. You'd rather talk about it. LOL. I won't respond further, virgin boy.

**Whippit** · 02-07-11, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by politicin

I guess you fail at reading. Every time Utah has played Sac, Sac has been favored by 7-8 or more the majority of the time. That was what I said. You fail at comprehension. Funnier you won't put up money against me. You'd rather talk about it. LOL. I won't respond further, virgin boy.

**Whippit** · 02-07-11, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by demens

Is it King/Avon? Barry Banter?

It's a woman trapped inside an alleged man's body

**demens** · 02-07-11, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by GarbageMan

He meant vs SAC on the road, just didn't make it very clear.......

Last 4 spread Jazz at Kings.

-7
-2.5
-2
-2

OMG, how it the world did Vegas make it -2 today. It should be like -17. Pound the shit out of it.

Whatever he meant, he is wrong. And now i'm 100% he's just another one of the losers on the site with 10 accounts.

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 02:27 PM

So you obviously want to take the bet?

**demens** · 02-07-11, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Whippit

It's a woman trapped inside an alleged man's body

Jessicas? I dont remember that kid posting much basketball, plus he was white, this one comes off a bit too thuggish.

ANyway, who cares i guess is a better response. Moving on.

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 02:30 PM

11/22/10 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2010-2011/boxscore795847.html UTA -10.5 U 197.5 0.5 34/76 29/81 39-50
01/29/10 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore780958.html SAC 8.5 U 203 1.5 35/72 33/76 41-37
11/07/09 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore780361.html SAC 15.5 U 206.5 20.5 37/76 33/67 38-38
02/28/09 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2008-2009/boxscore767795.html SAC 17.0 U 216 4.0 40/76 35/80 40-41
11/28/08 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2008-2009/boxscore767147.html UTA -11 O 210 15.0 44/83 40/82 45-37
01/25/08 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2007-2008/boxscore754297.html UTA -8 O 214 6.0 45/78 34/70 37-34

I would say you fail guy.

Might want to update the spots you get your information from. You come across as a real retard.

I would say, considering they've been double digit favorites for the majority of the last meets (Utah), -2 is quite generous. Hit it or fade it.

And any mistakes I made typing is strictly because I'm 8 tabling right now and trying to type this fast, Idc what is perceived by you guys. I will put anything up on a bet with you Demens, on unit plays, who ends up with the most by the end of the season.

Bye idiot.

**vyomguy** · 02-07-11, 02:32 PM

books love people like politicin...who have no fuckking clue...now wonder books still stay in business

**politicin** · 02-07-11, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by politicin

11/22/10 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2010-2011/boxscore795847.html UTA -10.5 U 197.5 0.5 34/76 29/81 39-50
01/29/10 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore780958.html SAC 8.5 U 203 1.5 35/72 33/76 41-37
11/07/09 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore780361.html SAC 15.5 U 206.5 20.5 37/76 33/67 38-38
02/28/09 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2008-2009/boxscore767795.html SAC 17.0 U 216 4.0 40/76 35/80 40-41
11/28/08 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2008-2009/boxscore767147.html UTA -11 O 210 15.0 44/83 40/82 45-37
01/25/08 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2007-2008/boxscore754297.html UTA -8 O 214 6.0 45/78 34/70 37-34

I would say you fail guy.

Might want to update the spots you get your information from. You come across as a real retard.

I would say, considering they've been double digit favorites for the majority of the last meets (Utah), -2 is quite generous. Hit it or fade it.

And any mistakes I made typing is strictly because I'm 8 tabling right now and trying to type this fast, Idc what is perceived by you guys. I will put anything up on a bet with you Demens, on unit plays, who ends up with the most by the end of the season.

Bye idiot.

ALL HAIL DEMENS... KING OF THE IDIOTS

The best part, is you argue your point with such conviction, and sit on the sidelines like you're some kind of superior capper to everybody... and then you post idiotic and flat out incorrect things like this, and get completely dunked on... take a seat kid... put the starters back in... you lose