Allen Iverson and Miami Heat in talks

[initialX]

How about T-Mac going to Miami?

[poochiecollins]

I would have like them to make a run a Luke Ridnour, but apparently the Wolves felt they needed to draft 2 lottery PGs last year and sign both of the starting PGs from the 2009 Bucks

But it sounds so bad when you put it that way...

[thezbar]

A.I. has lost too much. There are better fits out there.

[Darkside Magick]

lets go A.I. lets complete the all star team

[remmy358]

the heat would be insane to entertain this

[jjgold]

I hear Latrell Sprewell is in shape and ready to sign for the minimum.

That cannot be true

[hels]

That cannot be true

It's a joke.

[hels]

Latest word is the round mound of rebound is looking to make a comeback.

[poochiecollins]

how about the rest of the NBA who still thinks that kobe is the best player in the NBA? do you honestly believe that lebron decided on thursday morning? have you ever heard of karl malone? john stockton? those guys got more recognition than scottie pippen, but in fact scottie pippen is right up there with them but when it's about the bulls only michael is being talked about you want to talk about those missed shots of kobe at the end of the game? can you show me those footage? i know he misses buzzer beaters like every other superstar does how about talking about the skill of kobe and lebron? what aspect of lebron's game is a lot better than kobe, sure kobe may not be the athlete that lebron is, but does lebron have the same kind of move kobe has? great midrange game, better 3 point game, better post moves, lebron has his edge with his athleticism but his moves are done with FORCE, his dunks are usually done with pure power

Back to this thread, hopefully briefly. On Kobe, who's "the rest of the NBA"? I hear some people say Kobe's better, others LeBron. That's mostly irrelevant because of more direct statistical comparisons between the two that I've already pointed out, however; stop playing lawyer and ignoring it.

On Pippen verses Malone and Stockton: first off, I looked up all their stats and found that, while it's harder to compare players that were predominantly in the same setting over a large period of their career, Malone and Stockton were probably appreciably better offensive players than Pippen. I've gathered that Pippen was a great defensive player, but much greater than the other two to the extent of making up for his offensive shortcomings?

I don't know what you're on about with game film of Kobe shooting late-game shots, but measuring offensive in basketball isn't usually that difficult, and the numbers say Kobe's a terrible last (or almost) possession player, including his passing: http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

Your last paragraph is just subjective stuff that anyone could argue either way; i.e. it's a waste to discuss.

[kobefanatic]

Back to this thread, hopefully briefly. On Kobe, who's "the rest of the NBA"? I hear some people say Kobe's better, others LeBron. That's mostly irrelevant because of more direct statistical comparisons between the two that I've already pointed out, however; stop playing lawyer and ignoring it.

On Pippen verses Malone and Stockton: first off, I looked up all their stats and found that, while it's harder to compare players that were predominantly in the same setting over a large period of their career, Malone and Stockton were probably appreciably better offensive players than Pippen. I've gathered that Pippen was a great defensive player, but much greater than the other two to the extent of making up for his offensive shortcomings?

I don't know what you're on about with game film of Kobe shooting late-game shots, but measuring offensive in basketball isn't usually that difficult, and the numbers say Kobe's a terrible last (or almost) possession player, including his passing: http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

Your last paragraph is just subjective stuff that anyone could argue either way; i.e. it's a waste to discuss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-f49jyMmo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hJuAyQkpI&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liIYL7YcePI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0565oawy9Ak&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_HbwnjHLI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv37ykpYk84&feature=related

how many NBA players have said lebron is better? not stupid ESPN analysts which MOST of them didn't even play the game, do you think they know better than the players who actually play against them in a season

i thought you were saying that who got more recognition than the other despite winning less ring? ain't that already an example? pippen is a great defensive player but he his offense is on par with those 2

82games.com just showed those stats but did they point out which games? i would believe it if they can at least point out which games besides if you want to talk about his bad passing in the end of the game, can't you remember his teammates in 05-07 who can't catch a ball to save their lives?

[poochiecollins]

I forgot two things:
(1) I'm not sure that Pippen's less recognized than Malone or Stockton, aside from who's actually better. I hear Pippen's name uttered more than the other two. If a random sample of Americans were asked if they knew either of the players and what they did, would Pippen come behind the other two? I'm not sure, as it's not my era, but it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't. Can you confidently say otherwise?
(2) On what are you basing the assertion that LBJ is lying about the time he reached his team-to-be decision?

I'll get to your most recent post later.

[kobefanatic]

does defending the opposition in the final minute of the game ( making him take the last shot) show up in the stats sheet? does making a great pass for another teammate which throws a lob to a more open man show in the stats sheet as well? does the intangibles show up in the stats sheet?

[kobefanatic]

I forgot two things:
(1) I'm not sure that Pippen's less recognized than Malone or Stockton, aside from who's actually better. I hear Pippen's name uttered more than the other two. If a random sample of Americans were asked if they knew either of the players and what they did, would Pippen come behind the other two? I'm not sure, as it's not my era, but it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't. Can you confidently say otherwise?
(2) On what are you basing the assertion that LBJ is lying about the time he reached his team-to-be decision?

I'll get to your most recent post later.

when you're talking about the bulls, who would people say? how about the jazz all they talked about is the mailman and stockton

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Chris-Bosh-says-he-went-hard-We-saw-something-e;_ylt=AsPibMr7_3OUIPnJV1bqO8W8vLYF?urn=nba-259330

[kobefanatic]

hope your LEQUIT wins the championship soon by riding on wade's d!ck

[bbar86]

please tell me this isnt true

[nj6]

AI needs a ring, THUGLIFE.

[hoopster42]

the dude will ruin the chemistry, he is fukking terrible

[brandon m]

Well if we are talking about Kobe vs Lebron, I'm gonna find this article a dude wrote 2 years ago during when Kobe won the MVP. Gimme a day or two and I will find it. Its a must read.

[COOGI]

AI Terrible...he need to retire...........

[cecbo]

AI was a pretty good player back in the day, but his future in the NBA is pretty much done. He may have some game left in him, but as a teammate and a player who can help develop the younger players...that is not AI. I don't think any team would sign him now...

[Baller85]

AI is done in the NBA in my opinion.

[tealish]

i hope this doesnt happen. i want to hate the heat without reservations.

[redrum]

i like the iverson talk would be a great pick up

[Goat Milk]

Back to this thread, hopefully briefly. On Kobe, who's "the rest of the NBA"? I hear some people say Kobe's better, others LeBron. That's mostly irrelevant because of more direct statistical comparisons between the two that I've already pointed out, however; stop playing lawyer and ignoring it. On Pippen verses Malone and Stockton: first off, I looked up all their stats and found that, while it's harder to compare players that were predominantly in the same setting over a large period of their career, Malone and Stockton were probably appreciably better offensive players than Pippen. I've gathered that Pippen was a great defensive player, but much greater than the other two to the extent of making up for his offensive shortcomings? I don't know what you're on about with game film of Kobe shooting late-game shots, but measuring offensive in basketball isn't usually that difficult, and the numbers say Kobe's a terrible last (or almost) possession player, including his passing: http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm Your last paragraph is just subjective stuff that anyone could argue either way; i.e. it's a waste to discuss.

you are so clueless its not even funny. i am not going to waste my time dismantling this statement.

[HenPrivilege]

Fukk the Heat

and fukk every Heat fan who became a fan after July 8 2010

Everyone else should follow. Fukk that team.

[hels]

I would be happy if AI actually somehow joined the heat. It would cause disaster to come much sooner than expected.

[poochiecollins]

you are so clueless its not even funny. i am not going to waste my time dismantling this statement.

Because you can't, so you're trying to save your your Kobe-kissing face with ad hominem :-)

[Goat Milk]

Because you can't, so you're trying to save your your Kobe-kissing face with ad hominem :-)

fool.