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  • GGPLAYER
    SBR MVP
    • 03-26-09
    • 2981

    #1961
    Originally posted by russ5349
    Hey skyscrapers, looking at the games tonight shouldn't New Orleans be in play as well?
    Not according to Statfox.com

    They pushed the game against OKC. They need to lose tonight and then the next game will be a play.
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    • russ5349
      SBR Rookie
      • 10-23-19
      • 4

      #1962
      I was looking at oddshark, had them at +4.5 and a loss. Thanks for clarifying .
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      • betwithdaniel
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 07-27-16
        • 956

        #1963
        ScoresandOdds.com should be the authority. According to the first game against OKC (11/29), the line went up to +5, but closed at +4.5 (I assume that's what "Current" means). Hopefully Skyscrapers can make the ultimate decision before game-time.
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        • skyscrapers
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 05-02-11
          • 6166

          #1964
          Firstly, Scoresandodds.com is the ONLY reference we use for Chase 110.

          Secondly, this gets really strange. Under the Pelicans list of games log it states the line closed at +5 which is a Push against OKC on Nov. 29.
          Now if you go into the game details then line movement it states +4.5 was the closing line. However according to the time stamp that +4.5 line actually is after the game started.

          I'll make the decision to just treat it as a Push unless Wallco says otherwise. I almost always use the game logs to determine the closing lines anyway as I don't have time to check every individual game detail and line movement. Hope that explains everything.
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          • Sharpes
            SBR Sharp
            • 09-01-17
            • 481

            #1965
            Thanks for the clarification sky. Best thing is to defer to same method you always use.
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            • Wallco99
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-01-11
              • 7261

              #1966
              Don't use the individual team game logs, use the scoresandodds.com, day-to-day, whole card lines for determining ALL plays. That is all I ever used. There were frequent discrepancies at times on the individual team game logs, so I NEVER used those in my testing or in my game scoring results. Just use the final line shown on the card sheet, no need to open up line movement category. It's easier to use the main card anyway, then you don't have to open anything else up.
              Last edited by Wallco99; 12-05-19, 08:29 PM.
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              • skyscrapers
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 05-02-11
                • 6166

                #1967
                Ok I'll use the entire card line page from now on even though it involves much more page-flipping. I've been using the individual team logs for all these years as it's much easier to read and much less time-consuming. If that is the case then New Orleans would have been a play today. The good thing is New Orleans lost so we'll carry on with their B bet.
                Last edited by skyscrapers; 12-05-19, 11:45 PM. Reason: typo
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                • skyscrapers
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 05-02-11
                  • 6166

                  #1968
                  Wallco NBA Chase 110
                  2019-2020 System To Date: 14-1 (fin. series)
                  System Profit/Loss:
                  -10.60 units (fin. series)
                  Current Open Series: 1 (-1.85 units)

                  (12/5/19):
                  #15 Washington (+7.5) (A) - Win
                  #16 New Orleans (M/L) (A) - Loss

                  v1 Plays:
                  (A) 12-4
                  (B) 0-3

                  (C) 2-1
                  (D) 0-1
                  Losses: SA (-24.60u)



                  There are no system plays for (12/6/19)

                  #16 Resumes (B) on 12/7/19


                  We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #1809.
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                  • Andy3568
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 01-17-10
                    • 615

                    #1969
                    Originally posted by skyscrapers
                    Ok I'll use the entire card line page from now on even though it involves much more page-flipping. I've been using the individual team logs for all these years as it's much easier to read and much less time-consuming. If that is the case then New Orleans would have been a play today. The good thing is New Orleans lost so we'll carry on with their B bet.
                    I've been using the game logs as well. I know there are discrepancies between the game logs and the final lines listed on the card sheet, but they are less of a factor here than in a sport like hockey, which often comes down to one-point victories. I do think it's a good idea to use the card sheets since that's what the backtesting is based on.
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                    • skyscrapers
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-02-11
                      • 6166

                      #1970
                      Originally posted by Andy3568
                      I've been using the game logs as well. I know there are discrepancies between the game logs and the final lines listed on the card sheet, but they are less of a factor here than in a sport like hockey, which often comes down to one-point victories. I do think it's a good idea to use the card sheets since that's what the backtesting is based on.
                      Almost always it's the hook that is the difference between a win or loss or push.
                      Last edited by skyscrapers; 12-06-19, 04:15 PM.
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                      • skyscrapers
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 05-02-11
                        • 6166

                        #1971
                        Wallco NBA Chase 110
                        2019-2020 System To Date: 14-1 (fin. series)
                        System Profit/Loss:
                        -10.60 units (fin. series)
                        Current Open Series: 1 (-1.85 units)


                        v1 Plays:
                        (A) 12-4
                        (B) 0-3

                        (C) 2-1
                        (D) 0-1
                        Losses: SA (-24.60u)



                        Games for (12/7/19):
                        #16 New Orleans (+9) @ Dallas (B) (2:05pm EST)
                        #17 Indiana @ New York (+6) (A) (7:35pm EST)
                        #18 Memphis @ Utah (M/L) (A) (10:05pm EST)

                        Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.



                        We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #1809.
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                        • GGPLAYER
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-26-09
                          • 2981

                          #1972
                          Utah -850 ML........nope. I guess I'll live bet that one.
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                          • skyscrapers
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 05-02-11
                            • 6166

                            #1973
                            You can bet New Orleans for 2 units if you did not bet the A bet. If it wins then that covers the Utah unit. If it loses then move on to C bet. No biggie.
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                            • Andy3568
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 01-17-10
                              • 615

                              #1974
                              I hope no one bet New Orleans for 2 units.
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                              • skyscrapers
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-02-11
                                • 6166

                                #1975
                                Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                2019-2020 System To Date: 16-1 (fin. series)
                                System Profit/Loss:
                                -8.60 units (fin. series)
                                Current Open Series: 1 (-4.99 units)

                                (12/7/19):
                                #16 New Orleans (+8.5) (B) - Loss
                                #17 New York (+5.5) (A) - Win
                                #18 Utah (M/L) (A) - Win


                                v1 Plays:
                                (A) 14-4
                                (B) 0-4
                                (C) 2-1
                                (D) 0-1
                                Losses: SA (-24.60u)

                                Games for (12/8/19):
                                #19 Minnesota (+11) @ Los Angeles Lakers (A) (9:35pm EST)

                                #16 Resumes (C) on 12/9/19

                                Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.



                                We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #1809.
                                Last edited by skyscrapers; 12-08-19, 05:14 PM. Reason: Updated line
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                                • skyscrapers
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 05-02-11
                                  • 6166

                                  #1976
                                  Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                  2019-2020 System To Date: 16-1 (fin. series)
                                  System Profit/Loss:
                                  -8.60 units (fin. series)
                                  Current Open Series: 2 (-6.09 units)


                                  (12/8/19):
                                  #19 Minnesota (+9.5) (A) - Loss

                                  v1 Plays:
                                  (A) 14-5
                                  (B) 0-4
                                  (C) 2-1
                                  (D) 0-1
                                  Losses: SA (-24.60u)

                                  Games for (12/9/19):
                                  #16 Detroit @ New Orleans (M/L) (C) (8:05pm EST)
                                  #19 Minnesota (+3.5) @ Phoenix (B) (9:05pm EST)
                                  #20 Cleveland (+13.5) @ Boston (A) (7:35pm EST)
                                  #21 Toronto (M/L) @ Chicago (A) (8:05pm EST)
                                  #22
                                  Memphis (+3)
                                  @ Golden State (A) (10:35pm EST)


                                  Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


                                  We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #1809.
                                  Last edited by skyscrapers; 12-09-19, 02:25 AM. Reason: typo
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                                  • skyscrapers
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-02-11
                                    • 6166

                                    #1977
                                    Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                    2019-2020 System To Date: 18-1 (fin. series)
                                    System Profit/Loss:
                                    -6.60 units (fin. series)
                                    Current Open Series: 3 (-16.09 units)


                                    (12/9/19):
                                    #16 New Orleans (+1) (C) - Loss
                                    #19 Minnesota (+3) (B) - Loss
                                    #20 Cleveland (+13) (A) - Loss
                                    #21
                                    Toronto (M/L) (A) - Win
                                    #22 Memphis (+3) (A) - Win

                                    v1 Plays:
                                    (A) 16-6
                                    (B) 0-5
                                    (C) 2-2
                                    (D) 0-1
                                    Losses: SA (-24.60u)


                                    There are no system plays for (12/10/19)


                                    #16 Resumes (D) on 12/11/19
                                    #19 Resumes (C) on 12/11/19
                                    #20 Resumes (B) on 12/11/19



                                    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #1809.
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                                    • msetai
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 06-06-12
                                      • 350

                                      #1978
                                      d rose killed us yesterday. can't even complain, he crushed it in the 4th
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                                      • Deep_Rest
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-29-10
                                        • 841

                                        #1979
                                        Both announcers knew it was going to Rose for the final play, anyone who has watched basketball over the past 15 years knew it was going to Rose.

                                        But Alvin Gentry was like
                                        Last edited by Deep_Rest; 12-10-19, 12:58 PM.
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                                        • skyscrapers
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 05-02-11
                                          • 6166

                                          #1980
                                          Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                          2019-2020 System To Date: 18-1 (fin. series)
                                          System Profit/Loss:
                                          -6.60 units (fin. series)
                                          Current Open Series: 3 (-16.09 units)


                                          v1 Plays:
                                          (A) 16-6
                                          (B) 0-5
                                          (C) 2-2
                                          (D) 0-1
                                          Losses: SA (-24.60u)


                                          Games for (12/11/19):
                                          #16 New Orleans (+10) @ Milwaukee (D) (9:35pm EST)
                                          #19 Utah @ Minnesota (+1) (C) (8:05pm EST)
                                          #20 Houston @ Cleveland (+11.5) (B) (7:05pm EST)


                                          Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


                                          We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #1809.
                                          Last edited by skyscrapers; 12-11-19, 01:29 PM. Reason: Updated lines
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                                          • GGPLAYER
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-26-09
                                            • 2981

                                            #1981
                                            Big night boys!
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                                            • MisterSack
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 09-16-19
                                              • 598

                                              #1982
                                              Throwing some on ML +715 just because
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                                              • msetai
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 06-06-12
                                                • 350

                                                #1983
                                                wooo this D bet is about to be interesting tonight, lets goooooo!
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                                                • JassieJames
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 02-03-09
                                                  • 988

                                                  #1984
                                                  D bet loses, kiss most of this season goodbye
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                                                  • skyscrapers
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 05-02-11
                                                    • 6166

                                                    #1985
                                                    Giannis out. Should have taken the 13.5 earlier this morning. They will need every single pt.
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                                                    • msetai
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 06-06-12
                                                      • 350

                                                      #1986
                                                      shit was just about to ask what happened to that line dropped 3-4 points! damn, are you guys locking in the others?
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                                                      • msetai
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 06-06-12
                                                        • 350

                                                        #1987
                                                        man these wolves killing me...pels have time to get it together, no giannis should help a bit
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                                                        • JassieJames
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 02-03-09
                                                          • 988

                                                          #1988
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                                                          • skyscrapers
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 05-02-11
                                                            • 6166

                                                            #1989
                                                            Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                            2019-2020 System To Date: 19-2 (fin. series)
                                                            System Profit/Loss:
                                                            -31.02 units (fin. series)
                                                            Current Open Series: 1 (-8.48 units)

                                                            (12/11/19):
                                                            #16 New Orleans (+9) (D) - Loss
                                                            #19 Minnesota (M/L) (C) - Loss
                                                            #20 Cleveland (+11.5) (B) - Win


                                                            v1 Plays:
                                                            (A) 16-6
                                                            (B) 1-5
                                                            (C) 2-3
                                                            (D) 0-2
                                                            Losses: SA (-24.60u), NO (-25.42u)


                                                            There are no system plays for (12/12/19)


                                                            #19 Resumes (D)on 12/13/19

                                                            We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #1809.
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                                                            • GGPLAYER
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-26-09
                                                              • 2981

                                                              #1990
                                                              I had NO at +13.5.......one bucket away
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                                                              • TwoCats
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 07-14-12
                                                                • 227

                                                                #1991
                                                                Originally posted by GGPLAYER
                                                                I had NO at +13.5.......one bucket away
                                                                I know that feeling !!!!
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                                                                • skyscrapers
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 05-02-11
                                                                  • 6166

                                                                  #1992
                                                                  Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                                  2019-2020 System To Date: 19-2 (fin. series)
                                                                  System Profit/Loss:
                                                                  -31.02 units (fin. series)
                                                                  Current Open Series: 1 (-8.48 units)



                                                                  v1 Plays:
                                                                  (A) 16-6
                                                                  (B) 1-5
                                                                  (C) 2-3
                                                                  (D) 0-2
                                                                  Losses: SA (-24.60u), NO (-25.42u)


                                                                  Games for (12/13/19):
                                                                  #19 Los Angeles Clippers @ Minnesota (+4.5) (D) (9:35pm EST)
                                                                  #23 New Orleans (+7) @ Philadelphia (A) (7:05pm EST)



                                                                  Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


                                                                  We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #1809.
                                                                  Last edited by skyscrapers; 12-13-19, 08:26 PM. Reason: Updated lines
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                                                                  • CJ
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-21-13
                                                                    • 1261

                                                                    #1993
                                                                    Originally posted by JassieJames
                                                                    This and the MLB system. What an awful year 2019 has been.
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                                                                    • betwithdaniel
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 07-27-16
                                                                      • 956

                                                                      #1994
                                                                      Clippers players resting this game...please!!!!
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                                                                      • JassieJames
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 02-03-09
                                                                        • 988

                                                                        #1995
                                                                        Originally posted by CJ
                                                                        This and the MLB system. What an awful year 2019 has been.
                                                                        Beyond awful. And now this Clippers game just destroyed this entire season.
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