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  • DennisGreen
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-27-08
    • 18369

    #7806
    On tilt wouldn't recommend betting this one

    LIVE BET : FIN/FRA Over 6.5 (-175)
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    • Jaunomus
      SBR Rookie
      • 04-05-12
      • 5

      #7807
      Originally posted by zizoudane10
      Yeah fcking idiots. What a stupid gameplan... Why didn't they finish it in the 1st and give the big men some rest and let the other ones get some game time. No, a stupid fcking 1:0 in the 1st and then full power 4:0 in the 2nd. Bunch of monkeys, I am still pissed (left side: me, right side: anyone from Finland)
      Dude, never ever bet on Finland. (BTW I'm finnish, I know what I'm talking about )
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      • zizoudane10
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 03-27-12
        • 7272

        #7808
        You know they will fck us both with a scoreless 3rd...
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        • zizoudane10
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 03-27-12
          • 7272

          #7809
          Originally posted by Jaunomus
          Dude, never ever bet on Finland. (BTW I'm finnish, I know what I'm talking about )
          Ok, you can count yourself out of the right side
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          • eXon
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-02-12
            • 973

            #7810
            I knew I should have stayed out of it , going big on the over in the USA game tomorrow as well.
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            • DennisGreen
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-27-08
              • 18369

              #7811
              OMG France scored a goal Hopefully that enrages Finland so they try to score at least one.
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              • DennisGreen
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-27-08
                • 18369

                #7812
                Thank god! I love you again somewhat Finland! Tilt bets ftw.
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                • zizoudane10
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-27-12
                  • 7272

                  #7813
                  At least we get this one.... And a little bit of the loss is hedged.
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                  • Jaunomus
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 04-05-12
                    • 5

                    #7814
                    Been too paranoid since 2003, FIN-SWE quarter final, @ 28mins FIN leads 5-1. We lost 5-6. Last time I put anything for FIN
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                    • zizoudane10
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 03-27-12
                      • 7272

                      #7815
                      Originally posted by Jaunomus
                      Been too paranoid since 2003, FIN-SWE quarter final, @ 28mins FIN leads 5-1. We lost 5-6. Last time I put anything for FIN
                      That's crazy, 5:1, 5:6? Wow....
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                      • DennisGreen
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-27-08
                        • 18369

                        #7816
                        Originally posted by Jaunomus
                        Been too paranoid since 2003, FIN-SWE quarter final, @ 28mins FIN leads 5-1. We lost 5-6. Last time I put anything for FIN
                        Respect to Finland I usually cheer for them or Sweden if Canada is taken out. Glad they helped me get my money back after that shitty 1st
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                        • darktray
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 03-29-11
                          • 786

                          #7817
                          Lmao I was too disgusted after the 1st to watch anymore. Nice recovery
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                          • DennisGreen
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-27-08
                            • 18369

                            #7818
                            Originally posted by darktray
                            Lmao I was too disgusted after the 1st to watch anymore. Nice recovery
                            Yeah they still fcuked us 1 in the 1st then 4 in the 2nd. WTF is that shit!
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                            • darktray
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 03-29-11
                              • 786

                              #7819
                              <br>
                              Yeah thats unreal. I picked over 5.5 instead of 1.5 in Russia game 3-1 final after a 2-1 first... 1-0 in this one and then flood gates open. Im so mad!! Need to reload a bit for tomorrow
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                              • DennisGreen
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-27-08
                                • 18369

                                #7820
                                Originally posted by darktray
                                <br>
                                Yeah thats unreal. I picked over 5.5 instead of 1.5 in Russia game 3-1 final after a 2-1 first... 1-0 in this one and then flood gates open. Im so mad!! Need to reload a bit for tomorrow
                                Shit USA/KAZ and CAN/KAZ should both be around -200ish but fully expect both to score at least 2 on Borat in the 1st.
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                                • skyscrapers
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 05-02-11
                                  • 6168

                                  #7821
                                  I have to make sure I wake up early enough to play that KAZ/USA game...6:15am PDT
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                                  • DennisGreen
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-27-08
                                    • 18369

                                    #7822
                                    Originally posted by skyscrapers
                                    I have to make sure I wake up early enough to play that KAZ/USA game...6:15am PDT
                                    Yup Pinny will be dicks and not post the line until like 2 am I bet
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                                    • DennisGreen
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-27-08
                                      • 18369

                                      #7823
                                      Just noticed RUS/SWE tomorrow as well That should be another good 1st period play
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                                      • darktray
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 03-29-11
                                        • 786

                                        #7824
                                        Setting my alarm now, we better be prepared to will this.
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                                        • remeedella
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-17-12
                                          • 4089

                                          #7825
                                          the lines for next NHL games are moving fast -109 LAK now and -139 NYR
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                                          • Redman3693
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-30-12
                                            • 1312

                                            #7826
                                            Lots of scoring &amp; action for tomorrow

                                            Great battle from Latvia... They used to be the laughingstock - wish they had 2 more goals though... I still ended up a little (enough for dinner ...)

                                            Tomorrow will be VERY interesting with all of the big names big guns and freaky goalies to round out the pack.

                                            Set your alarms there folks, the action starts at 9:15 EST and should prove to be a HUGE blowout - I'm talkin' EPIC!

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                                            I know most of you folks use the 'books' for wagering - I am learning about them - but still using Betfair to for my bets. Game lines are:

                                            O/U line at 6.5 & another with KAZ getting 3.5 goals - IMHO that's like shooting fish in a barrel

                                            The rest of the games all have great lines for me - I hopr your books treat you as good as I see every game having a minimum of 6 and a high probability of more.


                                            I'm gonna throw my PiX out there to see if what's shakin'

                                            Friday, May 11, 2012
                                            33 09:15 AM ET KAZ - USA A USA 9 - KAZ 1
                                            34 10:15 AM ET ITA - CZE B ITA 1 - CZE 5
                                            35 01:15 PM ET FIN - CAN (TSN) A FIN 2 - CAN 5
                                            36 02:15 PM ET RUS - SWE B WWIII - THERE'S GOTTA Beat least 70 MIL IN SALARIES BETWEEN THE 2
                                            RUS 4 - SWE 5
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                                            • DennisGreen
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-27-08
                                              • 18369

                                              #7827
                                              Originally posted by Redman3693
                                              Great battle from Latvia... They used to be the laughingstock - wish they had 2 more goals though... I still ended up a little (enough for dinner ...)

                                              Tomorrow will be VERY interesting with all of the big names big guns and freaky goalies to round out the pack.

                                              Set your alarms there folks, the action starts at 9:15 EST and should prove to be a HUGE blowout - I'm talkin' EPIC!

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                                              I know most of you folks use the 'books' for wagering - I am learning about them - but still using Betfair to for my bets. Game lines are:

                                              O/U line at 6.5 & another with KAZ getting 3.5 goals - IMHO that's like shooting fish in a barrel

                                              The rest of the games all have great lines for me - I hopr your books treat you as good as I see every game having a minimum of 6 and a high probability of more.


                                              I'm gonna throw my PiX out there to see if what's shakin'

                                              Friday, May 11, 2012
                                              33 09:15 AM ET KAZ - USA A USA 9 - KAZ 1
                                              34 10:15 AM ET ITA - CZE B ITA 1 - CZE 5
                                              35 01:15 PM ET FIN - CAN (TSN) A FIN 2 - CAN 5
                                              36 02:15 PM ET RUS - SWE B WWIII - THERE'S GOTTA Beat least 70 MIL IN SALARIES BETWEEN THE 2
                                              RUS 4 - SWE 5
                                              Nice predictions LOL @ WWIII
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                                              • aznbluff
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 07-24-08
                                                • 892

                                                #7828
                                                Careful with the USA pick, this is one of their weakest rosters in a few years. They are also adding players for tomorrows game and trying people in different roles, there will be an adjustment period for both the team and the player (players that have no experience on the big ice at all). Also, people overrate international teams in general. An NHL team would likely be favored over any of the teams in this tournament, even Columbus vs Sweden or Canada.

                                                The quality of players in the tournament is well below the average in the NHL obviously and even among the top countries, while the player quality appears to be star studded, the overall result and quality of hockey on the ice is well below even what the Columbus Blue Jackets put out on a nightly basis. Very sloppy, weak systems, little familiarity.

                                                Teams like Kazakhstan and Switzerland can surprise because it's the same national team year after year and they have set systems and familiarity of team even if they don't have the talent.

                                                Teams like Russia and USA are in my opinion the worst value in the tournament and massively overrated in price right now. I would take Columbus or Edmonton at even money against either.
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                                                • DennisGreen
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-27-08
                                                  • 18369

                                                  #7829
                                                  God damn it Pinny post the freakin' 1st period lines so I don't have to wake up at 5:30 AM
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                                                  • SlimZ
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 03-07-11
                                                    • 647

                                                    #7830
                                                    What u think about the Canada vs Finland matchup DG?
                                                    Canada-118 currently
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                                                    • DennisGreen
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-27-08
                                                      • 18369

                                                      #7831
                                                      Friday Play

                                                      USA/KAZ Over 1.5 (1st) (-172)

                                                      -Back to bed!
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                                                      • DennisGreen
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-27-08
                                                        • 18369

                                                        #7832
                                                        Originally posted by SlimZ
                                                        What u think about the Canada vs Finland matchup DG?
                                                        Canada-118 currently
                                                        Leaning Canada and over 5.
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                                                        • eXon
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 973

                                                          #7833
                                                          Team USA has been very kind to me so far(Unlike Finland) so Im gonna go ahead and lay 800$ on the over 6.5 @ +105! Counting on Borat to score a couple of goals as well.
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                                                          • Redman3693
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-30-12
                                                            • 1312

                                                            #7834
                                                            Originally posted by aznbluff
                                                            Careful with the USA pick, this is one of their weakest rosters in a few years. They are also adding players for tomorrows game and trying people in different roles, there will be an adjustment period for both the team and the player (players that have no experience on the big ice at all). Also, people overrate international teams in general. An NHL team would likely be favored over any of the teams in this tournament, even Columbus vs Sweden or Canada.

                                                            The quality of players in the tournament is well below the average in the NHL obviously and even among the top countries, while the player quality appears to be star studded, the overall result and quality of hockey on the ice is well below even what the Columbus Blue Jackets put out on a nightly basis. Very sloppy, weak systems, little familiarity.

                                                            Teams like Kazakhstan and Switzerland can surprise because it's the same national team year after year and they have set systems and familiarity of team even if they don't have the talent.

                                                            Teams like Russia and USA are in my opinion the worst value in the tournament and massively overrated in price right now. I would take Columbus or Edmonton at even money against either.

                                                            Aznbluff (& the rest of you regulars on this post), first and foremost I want to apologize if I came off sounding like a 'know it all'... In my almost 50 years of walking this planet, I've realized that the older I get - the less I really know. I love to learn and share my knowledge with all. Yesterday I was slightly... lubricated as my insurance company just informed me that I was not at fault & my deductible was going to be waived for a car accident I was in recently (Here's a great link that will allow you to make a professional grade sketch of what actually happened http://www.accidentsketch.net/ It saved my bacon, and was free.)

                                                            Now, to our discussion, you make some VERY strong points regarding compatibility & comfort level between the players of teams that are 'formed' from NHL teams missing the playoffs & their junior systems vs 'national teams' that have played with each other for the full year(s) - believing that is a fools stance I would never take.

                                                            But

                                                            I would strongly argue that the experience gained by NA players as they progress through the ranks, coupled with the fact that many have played / trained / competed with each other on their journey to the NHL allowed them to develop 'personal databases' on many of their peers characteristics. Their knowledge and skill capacity are then given the ultimate boost when they reach the NHL and are, for the most part, exposed to the best level of training available that fully utilizes the latest and greatest tools, techniques, and personnel to deliver them.

                                                            If Kazakhstan were to have a more robust economy and access to better developmental tools, I would rank them much higher. Currently, they are ranked 16 by the IIHF and suffered their worst defeat at the hands of the US (10 - 0 in 2010).

                                                            Also, the US roster only has 2 non NHL'ers while the Kaz has none.
                                                            Kaz games this year:
                                                            SUI 5 - KAZ 1
                                                            FRA 6 - KAZ 3
                                                            BLR 3 - KAZ 2
                                                            SVK 4 - KAZ 2

                                                            I also agree that this may not be the best team the US has iced, but it easily surpasses Kaz.

                                                            The Russians have some 'deadly' skaters who, IMHO, are pissed at being out of the playoffs so early.
                                                            -Couple that with the fact that that this tourney has direct bearing on placement for the 2014 Olympics in Russia and I would be very, very surprised if they weren't 'out for bear'.

                                                            The Swedes are another team that ooze talent and also have a proverbial 'chip on their shoulder' - Daniel Alfredsson, native hero potentially ready to retire combined with favored Norris candidate Eric Karlsson & a group if high-end talent from the NHL as well...


                                                            I believe we will be seeing the overall winner in one of today's games -




                                                            Russia ---Sweden --- Canada --- USA
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                                                            • Redman3693
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-30-12
                                                              • 1312

                                                              #7835
                                                              If I had the bank, I'd be all over it.

                                                              I like the odds you're getting as well - Betfair is currently at 1.86 --

                                                              oops - just jumped to 1.96

                                                              I'm taking the over for all of today's games, but am a little upset that I can't parlay them.

                                                              Let the games begin!
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                                                              • darktray
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 03-29-11
                                                                • 786

                                                                #7836
                                                                Waiting on you to confirm my bet Colonel Green
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                                                                • Redman3693
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-30-12
                                                                  • 1312

                                                                  #7837
                                                                  Originally posted by darktray
                                                                  Waiting on you to confirm my bet Colonel Green

                                                                  I believe he's gone 'napping' as per his last post

                                                                  Time for you to

                                                                  BOL with whatever choice you make.
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                                                                  • Redman3693
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 04-30-12
                                                                    • 1312

                                                                    #7838
                                                                    In case anyone wants to watch it live, here's the link:



                                                                    Go USA GO
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                                                                    • DennisGreen
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-27-08
                                                                      • 18369

                                                                      #7839
                                                                      Wow what a travesty. US isn't even gonna score a goal in the 1st 1st period under is a now.
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                                                                      • DennisGreen
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 11-27-08
                                                                        • 18369

                                                                        #7840
                                                                        US playing like idiots trying to NBA jam every play out there. Just shoot you fcuks.
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