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  • doublej95
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-26-10
    • 14094

    #106
    ok here is what I'm playing as of right now

    Phoenix +155
    Edmonton +135
    Florida +135
    Toronto + 145

    I'm really hoping for at least 2-2 on these games, I really think that's the best it will be.
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    • gangeriver
      SBR MVP
      • 12-23-09
      • 2138

      #107
      dallas -119 / +118 on matchbook it went suddenly!
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      • Ras1112
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-04-09
        • 241

        #108
        Originally posted by doublej95
        Ok here is what I'm seeing for tonight on RLM on the moneyline

        Maple Leafs
        Phoenix
        Edmonton
        Florida
        Dallas? not sure yet

        Another game of note with some Value is on the Blues, the public has moved to St. Louis the line at pinny for St. Louis has went from +109 to -109 at a lot of the other books you can still get St. Louis at +money.
        With u on first 3, although don't see Phoenix winning but have to follow RLM
        Not sold on Florida & Dallas and St.Louis as u said total mess will pass on it!
        GL!
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        • doublej95
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-26-10
          • 14094

          #109
          Originally posted by gangeriver
          dallas -119 / +118 on matchbook it went suddenly!
          I'm totally confused on the Dallas game I see RLM at all of the other books but not at pinny. I use pinny as my guide so I'm just going to not over think this game and avoid it, got enough action as is.
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          • doublej95
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-26-10
            • 14094

            #110
            1-3 on the night but not a disaster, Edmonton let us down in the shoot out could have easily been 2-2 on the night.

            Was looking through my plays this season (started 10-21) in NHL and I'm 7-7 +.8 units using RLM a very interesting thing I found was that I am 1-6 on the RLM with plays that involve Jim Morrison's NHL system. 5 of the plays was system plays and the other two opposite his play. My plays the involve RLM and have no Morrison effect are 6-1 +5.25 units. This is something I will be thinking about when it comes to making RLM plays, staying away from games that are related to his system.
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            • DaProfessor23
              SBR MVP
              • 12-07-08
              • 1180

              #111
              thats weird but understandable , morrison is like the anti-christ when it comes to making money . lol , im joking but is that the only factor between all the losing games? it could possibly be something else more meaningful .
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              • RLM_Tracker
                SBR High Roller
                • 09-30-10
                • 139

                #112
                What does the Morrison system involve? Not familiar with it.
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                • Wini
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 08-20-10
                  • 11

                  #113
                  Has anyone here started to get a feel for some "rules" regarding NHL RLM? I know that pack has a set of rules for NCAAF RLM, with a certain % required on each side, at least a full point moving on the line, etc.

                  So far I have been tracking all NHL RLM (not necessarily playing them all), and it seems a bit random to me so far.
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                  • Ras1112
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 09-04-09
                    • 241

                    #114
                    Whatever it was, didn't work today. One thing I'll look into, is when to bet, for me early picks work better. It's not like we will figure all of them all the time, all we need most of the them most of the time
                    BOL
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                    • doublej95
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-26-10
                      • 14094

                      #115
                      Originally posted by DaProfessor23
                      thats weird but understandable , morrison is like the anti-christ when it comes to making money . lol , im joking but is that the only factor between all the losing games? it could possibly be something else more meaningful .

                      Thats all I have looked at, thats meaning enough for me. Nah I'm just going to take note of it and track it some more. Morrison's Hockey system is not that good if you didnt know.
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                      • RLM_Tracker
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 09-30-10
                        • 139

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Wini
                        Has anyone here started to get a feel for some "rules" regarding NHL RLM? I know that pack has a set of rules for NCAAF RLM, with a certain % required on each side, at least a full point moving on the line, etc.

                        So far I have been tracking all NHL RLM (not necessarily playing them all), and it seems a bit random to me so far.
                        For my plays, I have been doing .5 units if a line moves ten points and has 60-69% on the other side, 1 unit if 10+ points and 70% or more on the other side.
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                        • doublej95
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-26-10
                          • 14094

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Wini
                          Has anyone here started to get a feel for some "rules" regarding NHL RLM? I know that pack has a set of rules for NCAAF RLM, with a certain % required on each side, at least a full point moving on the line, etc.

                          So far I have been tracking all NHL RLM (not necessarily playing them all), and it seems a bit random to me so far.

                          I have been trying to go with the biggest RLM around 10 cent's in movement. Any suggestions and ideas feel free to post. I'm going to look at the Morrison thing a little more myself in my tracking. I will note if a game that has RLM is also a Morrison system play.
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                          • doublej95
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-26-10
                            • 14094

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Ras1112
                            Whatever it was, didn't work today. One thing I'll look into, is when to bet, for me early picks work better. It's not like we will figure all of them all the time, all we need most of the them most of the time
                            BOL

                            going with the RLM in hockey will give you alot more underdogs than favorites which means you can be around .500 and still be plus money. even with a 1-3 night for me I only lost 1.45 units. Not happy about it but all favorites on a 1-3 night would have been around -3 or-4 units.
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                            • Ras1112
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 09-04-09
                              • 241

                              #119
                              Originally posted by doublej95
                              going with the RLM in hockey will give you alot more underdogs than favorites which means you can be around .500 and still be plus money. even with a 1-3 night for me I only lost 1.45 units. Not happy about it but all favorites on a 1-3 night would have been around -3 or-4 units.
                              Yes, u right, as long as we learn something money isn't lost. I didn't lose anything today actually (had 2 units on Magic) just don't feel like today I know better how to deal with NHL RLM tomorrow
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                              • BetterBizness
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-20-06
                                • 5737

                                #120
                                Nice Thread DJ.. I always check to see the plays and it helps "tweak" the value of a play I may already like.. today that play was Phoenix....
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                                • doublej95
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-26-10
                                  • 14094

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by BetterBizness
                                  Nice Thread DJ.. I always check to see the plays and it helps "tweak" the value of a play I may already like.. today that play was Phoenix....
                                  Glad you hit that nice underdog tonight.
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                                  • mister bee
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 04-23-09
                                    • 199

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by doublej95
                                    If you read my post I state that Tampa was not RLM, I was playing it on another trend I use: home dog with a higher RPI than the favorite. Someone just wanted to know all my plays for the night so I posted them. A very nice 4-1 night.
                                    doublej, love the RLM. just starting to use it in my capping arsenal. quick question: where are you finding hockey RPI stats?
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                                    • doublej95
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-26-10
                                      • 14094

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by mister bee
                                      doublej, love the RLM. just starting to use it in my capping arsenal. quick question: where are you finding hockey RPI stats?
                                      ESPN, just Google NHL RPI
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                                      • DaProfessor23
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-07-08
                                        • 1180

                                        #124
                                        doublej , have you looked into RLM on hockey totals? i see a few today . i think ill just post them and see how it turns out .
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                                        • SOXROCK
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 02-23-09
                                          • 68

                                          #125
                                          how do you find the RLM on totals. What site do you use???

                                          thanks
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                                          • mister bee
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 04-23-09
                                            • 199

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by doublej95
                                            ESPN, just Google NHL RPI
                                            Awesome. Thanks bro.
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                                            • doublej95
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-26-10
                                              • 14094

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by DaProfessor23
                                              doublej , have you looked into RLM on hockey totals? i see a few today . i think ill just post them and see how it turns out .
                                              Yeah post them and lets see how they do
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                                              • packbacker79
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 10-09-10
                                                • 96

                                                #128
                                                I have been looking over the last few weeks and trying to identify some "rules" that will help us narrow these picks down. Once Rule that seems to hold true is that if we look for games that have at least a 20pt line move for example -120 down to -100 the odds improve significantly for ML plays.

                                                I am going back over the games now but its something like 12-2 if you only play games using that rule. Even if the % of bets placed on the other side is low..for example 55/45. And when you see the line switch sides...i.e. -120 to +103 the odds improve significantly.
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                                                • gangeriver
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-23-09
                                                  • 2138

                                                  #129
                                                  I took same picks yesterday and I added kings and colorado. went 3-3
                                                  it seems we have 2 plays tonight. Flyers and Oilers. I'm wrong?
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                                                  • Ras1112
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 09-04-09
                                                    • 241

                                                    #130
                                                    Will make some early picks it's Friday after all
                                                    Philly, Oilers and Canes(just personal favorites)
                                                    So, gangeriver I'm with u!
                                                    GL!
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                                                    • doublej95
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-26-10
                                                      • 14094

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by gangeriver
                                                      I took same picks yesterday and I added kings and colorado. went 3-3
                                                      it seems we have 2 plays tonight. Flyers and Oilers. I'm wrong?

                                                      Yes, Flyers and Oliers would be plays.
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                                                      • gangeriver
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-23-09
                                                        • 2138

                                                        #132
                                                        I want to share this. These are dropped dogs odds. some of them RLM some of them not. since 7/10.
                                                        first % belongs to dog, second is fav. Lines from Pinnacle (closing lines) consensus from covers.com. I admit, using covers.com consensus is a bit of strange but I don't trust pregame.Who/Where is their numbers source?
                                                        not included under +100 dogs and small (like 5-6 cents) line movings.

                                                        07/10

                                                        carolina-minnesota %37,5-%62,5 (covers) WON +104

                                                        08/10

                                                        columbus- san jose %21-%79 (covers) LOST +154

                                                        dallas - new jersey %22-%78 (covers) WON +161

                                                        buffalo -ottawa %49,5-%50,5 (covers) WON +103

                                                        09/10

                                                        San jose-colombus %69-%31 (covers) WON +140

                                                        montreal - pitts. %27-%73 (covers) WON +178

                                                        new jersey - wash. %31-%69 (covers) LOST +131

                                                        atlanta- tampa bay %29-%71 (covers) LOST +133

                                                        detroit - chicago %46-%54 (covers) WON +139

                                                        LA kings-vancouver %30-%70 (covers) WON +135

                                                        10/10

                                                        floriada-edmonton %24-%76 (covers) LOST +123

                                                        11/10

                                                        islanders - rangers %29-%71 (covers) WON +126

                                                        pittsburgh-new jersey %61-%39 (covers) WON +115 *****

                                                        12/10

                                                        atlanta - la kings %35-65 (covers) LOST +162

                                                        13/10

                                                        tampa bay - montreal %45-%54 (covers) WON +106

                                                        toronto-pitssburg %34-%66 (covers) WON +145

                                                        nashville - chicago %32-%68 (covers) WON +161

                                                        14/10

                                                        carolina -ottawa %38-%62 (covers) LOST +121

                                                        detroit - dallas %42-%57 (covers) WON +101

                                                        florida - calgary %26-%74 (covers) WON +127

                                                        15/10

                                                        colorado-n.jersey %42-%58 (covers) WON +133

                                                        atlanta - anaheim %38-%62 (covers) WON +115

                                                        16/10

                                                        stlouis - dallas %41-%59 (covers) LOST +103

                                                        17/10

                                                        phoenix - anaheim %47-%53 (covers) LOST +123

                                                        carolina-vancouver %31-%69 (covers) LOST +149

                                                        18/10

                                                        islanders-toronto %34-%66 (covers) WON +155

                                                        ST louis-chicago %32-%68 (covers) LOST +125

                                                        19/10

                                                        boston - washington %38-%62 (covers) WON +145

                                                        calgary - nashville %37-%63 (covers) WON +124

                                                        carolina - san jose %24-%76 (covers) WON +181

                                                        21/10

                                                        calgary - detroit %33-%67 (covers) LOST +170

                                                        23/10

                                                        montreal - ottawa %59-%41 (covers) WON +105 *****

                                                        nashville -dallas %43-57 (covers) WON +118

                                                        carolina - phoenix %40-%60 (covers) WON +113

                                                        24/10

                                                        san jose - calgary %43-%57 (covers) WON +100

                                                        25/10

                                                        phoenix-montreal %37-%63 (covers) LOST +120

                                                        27/10

                                                        Atlanta-ny rangers %39-%61 (covers) WON +117

                                                        Capitals-Carolina %40-%60 (covers) LOST +118

                                                        LA kings - chıcago %34-%66 (covers) LOST +126

                                                        (25-14)

                                                        28/10

                                                        emonton - clombus %43-%57 (covers) Lost +143

                                                        florida - ottawa %39-%61 (covers) LOST +136

                                                        Phoenix - detroit %31-%69 (covers) WON +156

                                                        toronto -boston %39-%61 (covers) LOST +150

                                                        la kings - dallas %46-54 (covers) WON +103

                                                        colorado -calgary %45-%55 (covers) WON +124

                                                        (28-17)07/10

                                                        carolina-minnesota %37,5-%62,5 (covers) WON +104

                                                        08/10

                                                        columbus- san jose %21-%79 (covers) LOST +154

                                                        dallas - new jersey %22-%78 (covers) WON +161

                                                        buffalo -ottawa %49,5-%50,5 (covers) WON +103

                                                        09/10

                                                        San jose-colombus %69-%31 (covers) WON +140

                                                        montreal - pitts. %27-%73 (covers) WON +178

                                                        new jersey - wash. %31-%69 (covers) LOST +131

                                                        atlanta- tampa bay %29-%71 (covers) LOST +133

                                                        detroit - chicago %46-%54 (covers) WON +139

                                                        LA kings-vancouver %30-%70 (covers) WON +135

                                                        10/10

                                                        floriada-edmonton %24-%76 (covers) LOST +123

                                                        11/10

                                                        islanders - rangers %29-%71 (covers) WON +126

                                                        pittsburgh-new jersey %61-%39 (covers) WON +115 *****

                                                        12/10

                                                        atlanta - la kings %35-65 (covers) LOST +162

                                                        13/10

                                                        tampa bay - montreal %45-%54 (covers) WON +106

                                                        toronto-pitssburg %34-%66 (covers) WON +145

                                                        nashville - chicago %32-%68 (covers) WON +161

                                                        14/10

                                                        carolina -ottawa %38-%62 (covers) LOST +121

                                                        detroit - dallas %42-%57 (covers) WON +101

                                                        florida - calgary %26-%74 (covers) WON +127

                                                        15/10

                                                        colorado-n.jersey %42-%58 (covers) WON +133

                                                        atlanta - anaheim %38-%62 (covers) WON +115

                                                        16/10

                                                        stlouis - dallas %41-%59 (covers) LOST +103

                                                        17/10

                                                        phoenix - anaheim %47-%53 (covers) LOST +123

                                                        carolina-vancouver %31-%69 (covers) LOST +149

                                                        18/10

                                                        islanders-toronto %34-%66 (covers) WON +155

                                                        ST louis-chicago %32-%68 (covers) LOST +125

                                                        19/10

                                                        boston - washington %38-%62 (covers) WON +145

                                                        calgary - nashville %37-%63 (covers) WON +124

                                                        carolina - san jose %24-%76 (covers) WON +181

                                                        21/10

                                                        calgary - detroit %33-%67 (covers) LOST +170

                                                        23/10

                                                        montreal - ottawa %59-%41 (covers) WON +105 *****

                                                        nashville -dallas %43-57 (covers) WON +118

                                                        carolina - phoenix %40-%60 (covers) WON +113

                                                        24/10

                                                        san jose - calgary %43-%57 (covers) WON +100

                                                        25/10

                                                        phoenix-montreal %37-%63 (covers) LOST +120

                                                        27/10

                                                        Atlanta-ny rangers %39-%61 (covers) WON +117

                                                        Capitals-Carolina %40-%60 (covers) LOST +118

                                                        LA kings - chıcago %34-%66 (covers) LOST +126

                                                        (25-14)

                                                        28/10

                                                        emonton - clombus %43-%57 (covers) Lost +143

                                                        florida - ottawa %39-%61 (covers) LOST +136

                                                        Phoenix - detroit %31-%69 (covers) WON +156

                                                        toronto -boston %39-%61 (covers) LOST +150

                                                        la kings - dallas %46-54 (covers) WON +103

                                                        colorado -calgary %45-%55 (covers) WON +124

                                                        (28-17)07/10

                                                        carolina-minnesota %37,5-%62,5 (covers) WON +104

                                                        08/10

                                                        columbus- san jose %21-%79 (covers) LOST +154

                                                        dallas - new jersey %22-%78 (covers) WON +161

                                                        buffalo -ottawa %49,5-%50,5 (covers) WON +103

                                                        09/10

                                                        San jose-colombus %69-%31 (covers) WON +140

                                                        montreal - pitts. %27-%73 (covers) WON +178

                                                        new jersey - wash. %31-%69 (covers) LOST +131

                                                        atlanta- tampa bay %29-%71 (covers) LOST +133

                                                        detroit - chicago %46-%54 (covers) WON +139

                                                        LA kings-vancouver %30-%70 (covers) WON +135

                                                        10/10

                                                        floriada-edmonton %24-%76 (covers) LOST +123

                                                        11/10

                                                        islanders - rangers %29-%71 (covers) WON +126

                                                        pittsburgh-new jersey %61-%39 (covers) WON +115 *****

                                                        12/10

                                                        atlanta - la kings %35-65 (covers) LOST +162

                                                        13/10

                                                        tampa bay - montreal %45-%54 (covers) WON +106

                                                        toronto-pitssburg %34-%66 (covers) WON +145

                                                        nashville - chicago %32-%68 (covers) WON +161

                                                        14/10

                                                        carolina -ottawa %38-%62 (covers) LOST +121

                                                        detroit - dallas %42-%57 (covers) WON +101

                                                        florida - calgary %26-%74 (covers) WON +127

                                                        15/10

                                                        colorado-n.jersey %42-%58 (covers) WON +133

                                                        atlanta - anaheim %38-%62 (covers) WON +115

                                                        16/10

                                                        stlouis - dallas %41-%59 (covers) LOST +103

                                                        17/10

                                                        phoenix - anaheim %47-%53 (covers) LOST +123

                                                        carolina-vancouver %31-%69 (covers) LOST +149

                                                        18/10

                                                        islanders-toronto %34-%66 (covers) WON +155

                                                        ST louis-chicago %32-%68 (covers) LOST +125

                                                        19/10

                                                        boston - washington %38-%62 (covers) WON +145

                                                        calgary - nashville %37-%63 (covers) WON +124

                                                        carolina - san jose %24-%76 (covers) WON +181

                                                        21/10

                                                        calgary - detroit %33-%67 (covers) LOST +170

                                                        23/10

                                                        montreal - ottawa %59-%41 (covers) WON +105 *****

                                                        nashville -dallas %43-57 (covers) WON +118

                                                        carolina - phoenix %40-%60 (covers) WON +113

                                                        24/10

                                                        san jose - calgary %43-%57 (covers) WON +100

                                                        25/10

                                                        phoenix-montreal %37-%63 (covers) LOST +120

                                                        27/10

                                                        Atlanta-ny rangers %39-%61 (covers) WON +117

                                                        Capitals-Carolina %40-%60 (covers) LOST +118

                                                        LA kings - chıcago %34-%66 (covers) LOST +126

                                                        (25-14)

                                                        28/10

                                                        emonton - clombus %43-%57 (covers) Lost +143

                                                        florida - ottawa %39-%61 (covers) LOST +136

                                                        Phoenix - detroit %31-%69 (covers) WON +156

                                                        toronto -boston %39-%61 (covers) LOST +150

                                                        la kings - dallas %46-54 (covers) WON +103

                                                        colorado -calgary %45-%55 (covers) WON +124

                                                        (28-17)


                                                        -gangeriver-
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                                                        • packbacker79
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 10-09-10
                                                          • 96

                                                          #133
                                                          So when I look at the last couple weeks and I just look at games with at least a 20pt RLM the ML plays would be 11-1 and the Puck Line plays would be 11-1.

                                                          Lets try and narrow things down with this new rule for tonight...as of now the plays look like:

                                                          Philly
                                                          Atlanta
                                                          Edmonton
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                                                          • doublej95
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-26-10
                                                            • 14094

                                                            #134
                                                            How would Atlanta be RLM, at sports insights it is showing 54% on Atlanta ML.
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                                                            • packbacker79
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 10-09-10
                                                              • 96

                                                              #135
                                                              Buffalo opened at -109 and they are now at +101 with 67% on Buffalo.
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                                                              • doublej95
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-26-10
                                                                • 14094

                                                                #136
                                                                yeah 67% on the puck line, do you use the puck line % to determine the money line also? moneyline is 46 Buffalo, 54 Atlanta
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                                                                • packbacker79
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 10-09-10
                                                                  • 96

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Yeah..I use Puck line %
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                                                                  • Vinnybagadonuts
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 09-30-10
                                                                    • 390

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Are you betting on the PL or the ML?

                                                                    For example, are you suggesting taking the Flyers to win, or +1.5? I'm just trying to get a handle on the system.

                                                                    Thanks.
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                                                                    • jsund
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 08-16-10
                                                                      • 92

                                                                      #139
                                                                      packbacker---on the atlanta game the difference is only 10 , NOT THE 20 THAT YOU SUGGESTED--OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DO THIS RIGHT--THANKS GUY
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                                                                      • ZicariBT08
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 09-11-10
                                                                        • 7

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by packbacker79
                                                                        Yeah..I use Puck line %
                                                                        I've been getting into this RLM tracking recently and this is the part that I'm still unsure/confused about, at least for hockey.

                                                                        Are you looking at the puck line percents? ML? Both? Do they determine whether your playing the PL or the ML?


                                                                        EDIT: Vinny beat me to it.
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