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  • Dexter
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    • 12-24-08
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    #36
    Originally posted by JR007
    pregame and freesportsbet.com has percentages as well, think they are all the same though
    Thx JR
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    • Dexter
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      • 12-24-08
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      #37
      Originally posted by suicidekings

      8/31: 8-2 (+9.81U)

      CFB: 11-5-0 (+9.36u)
      very nice
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      • Dexter
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        • 12-24-08
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        #38
        SK - what are your thoughts on this Pregame site? Looks like its also of multiple books as VI is....
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        • suicidekings
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          • 03-23-09
          • 9962

          #39
          Originally posted by Dexter
          SK - what are your thoughts on this Pregame site? Looks like its also of multiple books as VI is....
          The numbers appear to match for the most part. I think it was only the games involving an FCS school that weren't widely available to bet that had no %s yesterday. All the FBS matchups appear to be there. Also, VI is my favourite for the complete, timestamped line histories, which I think tells more than the public numbers.
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          • Dexter
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 12-24-08
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            #40
            Originally posted by suicidekings
            The numbers appear to match for the most part. I think it was only the games involving an FCS school that weren't widely available to bet that had no %s yesterday. All the FBS matchups appear to be there. Also, VI is my favourite for the complete, timestamped line histories, which I think tells more than the public numbers.
            i use sbr for timestamps on line moves....i am comfortable navigating the layout.

            its nice to also know who the public is on in conjunction with looking at the line history...under col/col st appears to be a smart play
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            • suicidekings
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              • 03-23-09
              • 9962

              #41
              Originally posted by Dexter
              i use sbr for timestamps on line moves....i am comfortable navigating the layout.

              its nice to also know who the public is on in conjunction with looking at the line history
              ...under col/col st appears to be a smart play
              True. I sometimes feel like I get too distracted by line movement and public numbers though. When I really just focus on being on the right side of a game, I feel like my performance is much more consistent. The more I get thinking about public numbers, the more I tend to second guess myself, and I'd rather have my handicapping be the more decisive factor in picking games than market analysis.

              As for the timestamps, I sometimes find that the SBR line history is incomplete, with the VI one being more detailed. At least it used to be. I'm not sure about it's current state.
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              • No coincidences
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-18-10
                • 76300

                #42
                Originally posted by suicidekings
                True. I sometimes feel like I get too distracted by line movement and public numbers though. When I really just focus on being on the right side of a game, I feel like my performance is much more consistent. The more I get thinking about public numbers, the more I tend to second guess myself, and I'd rather have my handicapping be the more decisive factor in picking games than market analysis.
                Well said, SK. Well said.
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                • suicidekings
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-23-09
                  • 9962

                  #43
                  17) South Carolina +3 (-106) x5 vs Georgia
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                  • Bs1194
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-10-10
                    • 1025

                    #44
                    So happy football is back. Glad to see you're off to another solid start, and Dex! it's good to see ya again.
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                    • suicidekings
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 03-23-09
                      • 9962

                      #45
                      18) Florida State -10 (-111) x1
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                      • suicidekings
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 03-23-09
                        • 9962

                        #46
                        19) LIVE (7-0 PIT, PIT ball, 1st&10 PIT38): FSU -3.5 (-124) x1
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                        • suicidekings
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                          • 03-23-09
                          • 9962

                          #47
                          Originally posted by suicidekings
                          18) Florida State -10 (-111) x1
                          19) LIVE (7-0 PIT, PIT ball, 1st&10 PIT38): FSU -3.5 (-124) x1
                          9/2: 2-0 (+2.0u)
                          CFB: 13-5-0 (+11.36u), 1 pending
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                          • Dexter
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 12-24-08
                            • 25829

                            #48
                            Originally posted by suicidekings

                            True. I sometimes feel like I get too distracted by line movement and public numbers though. When I really just focus on being on the right side of a game, I feel like my performance is much more consistent. The more I get thinking about public numbers, the more I tend to second guess myself, and I'd rather have my handicapping be the more decisive factor in picking games than market analysis.

                            As for the timestamps, I sometimes find that the SBR line history is incomplete, with the VI one being more detailed. At least it used to be. I'm not sure about it's current state.
                            Originally posted by No coincidences

                            Well said, SK. Well said.
                            either of you guys have an opinion into the move at pinnacle from 9.5 to 7.5 in 1 tick on the balt/den game?
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                            • suicidekings
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-23-09
                              • 9962

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Dexter
                              either of you guys have an opinion into the move at pinnacle from 9.5 to 7.5 in 1 tick on the balt/den game?
                              Teaser protection. They were expecting to take teasers with the Broncos bought down to under a FG so they left the line at 9.5. I guess they've relaxed a bit or were taking too much BAL money.
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                              • Dexter
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 12-24-08
                                • 25829

                                #50
                                Originally posted by suicidekings
                                Teaser protection. They were expecting to take teasers with the Broncos bought down to under a FG so they left the line at 9.5. I guess they've relaxed a bit or were taking too much BAL money.
                                yeah, im not a teaser guy and thought you had mentioned this in the past - wasnt sure what the #'s were...Thx
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                                • Bs1194
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-10-10
                                  • 1025

                                  #51
                                  One more night. Tomorrow can't come soon enough
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                                  • No coincidences
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-18-10
                                    • 76300

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by suicidekings
                                    Teaser protection. They were expecting to take teasers with the Broncos bought down to under a FG so they left the line at 9.5. I guess they've relaxed a bit or were taking too much BAL money.
                                    This. As far as SU going from 9.5 to 7.5, pretty much dead numbers so basically irrelevant (8, 8.5, 9).
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                                    • suicidekings
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-23-09
                                      • 9962

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Bs1194
                                      One more night. Tomorrow can't come soon enough
                                      Not really sure how I feel about this game though. I think giving Peyton Manning homefield advantage and 7 months to stew over a playoff loss makes betting the Ravens unsavory.

                                      People see the same basic line that was offered last season and forget just how perfectly stars were aligned for the Ravens in their playoff run. Flacco played the games of his career and Boldin & Pitta were unstoppable in the postseason, combining for 36 catches, 543 yards, & 7 TDs. Both gone from the team now. It took a 70 yard bomb to tie the Denver game with 30 seconds left. That was a miracle for the Ravens...

                                      I just feel like I should be laying the -7 (-115) right now with confidence, trusting in Peyton/Fox to start the season off with an authoritative win.
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                                      • Smutbucket
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-14-08
                                        • 3996

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by suicidekings
                                        Not really sure how I feel about this game though. I think giving Peyton Manning homefield advantage and 7 months to stew over a playoff loss makes betting the Ravens unsavory.

                                        People see the same basic line that was offered last season and forget just how perfectly stars were aligned for the Ravens in their playoff run. Flacco played the games of his career and Boldin & Pitta were unstoppable in the postseason, combining for 36 catches, 543 yards, & 7 TDs. Both gone from the team now. It took a 70 yard bomb to tie the Denver game with 30 seconds left. That was a miracle for the Ravens...

                                        I just feel like I should be laying the -7 (-115) right now with confidence, trusting in Peyton/Fox to start the season off with an authoritative win.
                                        100% agreed with this was just discussing this with a couple buddies earlier today. I teased it twice instead of laying the 7, I dunno why Im not just laying the 7....also wasnt it 2 bombs in the last 5 min or so too? also I remeber 2 questionable challenges that went in favor of the ravens that shouldnt have in my opinion but I had money on denver in that game so.....glad champ baileys out because hes the one who got burned by torrey smith
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                                        • 2daBank
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by suicidekings
                                          Not really sure how I feel about this game though. I think giving Peyton Manning homefield advantage and 7 months to stew over a playoff loss makes betting the Ravens unsavory.

                                          People see the same basic line that was offered last season and forget just how perfectly stars were aligned for the Ravens in their playoff run. Flacco played the games of his career and Boldin & Pitta were unstoppable in the postseason, combining for 36 catches, 543 yards, & 7 TDs. Both gone from the team now. It took a 70 yard bomb to tie the Denver game with 30 seconds left. That was a miracle for the Ravens...

                                          I just feel like I should be laying the -7 (-115) right now with confidence, trusting in Peyton/Fox to start the season off with an authoritative win.
                                          such a tough gm, feel like line high w all den defensive problems atm i have much more faith in baltys d but feels like they begging for balty money..cant wait till next thu when i can start just auto betting the thu night 1st half unders

                                          gl this season brother..
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                                          • Bbfromgpt
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-24-12
                                            • 6115

                                            #56
                                            Not just Bailey out they're missing other defensive starters too and of course their best pass rusher from last year. Denver has a ton of problems on D.
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                                            • suicidekings
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 03-23-09
                                              • 9962

                                              #57
                                              20) Broncos -6.5 (-125) x1

                                              This just feels like the right side to me.
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                                              • Bs1194
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-10-10
                                                • 1025

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                20) Broncos -6.5 (-125) x1

                                                This just feels like the right side to me.
                                                You got a good line. Lets get it.
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                                                • suicidekings
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-23-09
                                                  • 9962

                                                  #59
                                                  21) BAL/DEN Under 49 (-112) x1
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                                                  • Dexter
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 12-24-08
                                                    • 25829

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                    This. As far as SU going from 9.5 to 7.5, pretty much dead numbers so basically irrelevant (8, 8.5, 9).
                                                    Thx...i knew that. ha
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                                                    • suicidekings
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 03-23-09
                                                      • 9962

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                      21) Under 49 (-112) x1

                                                      This just feels like the right side to me.

                                                      Adding U49 (-117) x1


                                                      Aggregate line: U49 (-115) x2
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                                                      • suicidekings
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 03-23-09
                                                        • 9962

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                        20) Broncos -6.5 (-125) x1
                                                        21) BAL/DEN U49 (-115) x2

                                                        1-1 (-1.15u)

                                                        CFB: 13-5-0 (+11.36u), 1 pending
                                                        NFL: 1-1 (-1.15u)

                                                        Overall: 14-6 (10.21u)
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                                                        • Bs1194
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-10-10
                                                          • 1025

                                                          #63
                                                          Interested in seeing what you're going with tonight.
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                                                          • suicidekings
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 03-23-09
                                                            • 9962

                                                            #64
                                                            22) Li Na +5 games (-102) x1 vs Serena Williams
                                                            23) Li Na +1.5 sets (+204) x0.5
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                                                            • suicidekings
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 03-23-09
                                                              • 9962

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Bs1194
                                                              Interested in seeing what you're going with tonight.
                                                              Nothing, probably. WF vs BC on a Friday night is the definition of a degen game. Two pathetic teams vying to see who can be slightly less terrible for a night. UCF is the only team playing tonight that I respect and laying -24 on the road isn't appealing. Good slate tomorrow, so no need to mess with the games tonight.
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                                                              • suicidekings
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-23-09
                                                                • 9962

                                                                #66
                                                                24) Florida -2 (-120) x3
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                                                                • suicidekings
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 03-23-09
                                                                  • 9962

                                                                  #67
                                                                  25) Kentucky -17 (-110) x1
                                                                  26) WKU +14 (-123) x1
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                                                                  • Bs1194
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-10-10
                                                                    • 1025

                                                                    #68
                                                                    I'm on WKU pick also.
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                                                                    • suicidekings
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 03-23-09
                                                                      • 9962

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Bs1194
                                                                      Interested in seeing what you're going with tonight.
                                                                      Actually, I'm going to watch the start of the game and if BC scores first, I'm going to take the improved line on Wake. WF probably wins this game outright. If WF scores first, I'll just let it go.
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                                                                      • suicidekings
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 03-23-09
                                                                        • 9962

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Bs1194
                                                                        I'm on WKU pick also.
                                                                        It's going to be an interesting game. I won't be excited about the Vols until I see Josh Dobbs under center. I love what Petrino does for WKU though.
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