Tuf 15: Live

[Wanna Bet On It?]

Exactly why I said " I dont know the situation" But you chose to air your pre pubescent crap on a public forum. If you care about people having an opinion on it then dont put it out. All im saying is why would you rub it in someones face when the lose a bet ? No one is infallible. Just makes you look immature but whatever.

Because he acts like his shit doesn't stink. That's why.

I haven't seen eye to eye with other cappers before, but I've never had the same ill will towards anyone else, even when they humiliate themselves, because that's the nature of sportsbetting. No one is perfect.

But when some loser who lives in his mom's basement acts like he's god's gift to MMA betting and bashes everyone who disagrees, I have a genuine sense of Schadenfreude when he humiliates himself betting thousands & thousands on a TUF scrub.

C0cky pricks deserve to eat crow... Especially losers who live in their mom's basement in Minnesota. But I guess that's what the real high rollers do.

[Luca Fury]

Because he acts like his shit doesn't stink. That's why.

I haven't seen eye to eye with other cappers before, but I've never had the same ill will towards anyone else, even when they humiliate themselves, because that's the nature of sportsbetting. No one is perfect.

But when some loser who lives in his mom's basement acts like he's god's gift to MMA betting and bashes everyone who disagrees, I have a genuine sense of Schadenfreude when he humiliates himself betting thousands & thousands on a TUF scrub.

C0cky pricks deserve to eat crow... Especially losers who live in their mom's basement in Minnesota. But I guess that's what the real high rollers do.

For the 800th time, post proof! If I bash "everyone who disagrees" with me, have such "ill will" towards other gamblers and act "like [my] sh*t doesn't stink," it shouldn't be hard for you to post some links to some examples or a screen grab.

The only other people talking about my personality in this thread have complimented it. You're the only one who claims I did all of these bad things. And now you're attacking more people for no reason.

All you do is go around attacking people and trying to trash their images. No one is coming as smug, cocky, or mean but you. You even admit that you enjoy seeing others fail. You continue to prove that you're nothing more than a jealous hater.

[JOSHKROTCHNECK]

Luca dude could I ask for your take on cerrone/stephens and cormier/barnett ? Which way you leaning on these ones ?

[MMAbetMASTA]

At first I was amused at luca / wanna until I just looked through the thread and saw that your guys' banter has gone on for pages and paragraphs over nonsense... I'm not one to talk because I know I've been one to get into drawn out arguments on here over bs / nonsense and talk shit, but damn lol..

I myself, and I'm sure others too, cordially ask you both to shut it and quit bickering back and forth like some dramatic biotches.. Get over it fellas, its net beef, you both said your parts, and honestly you both look silly at this point. This thread has turned somewhat 'sherdogish'.. I think you're both solid mma gamblers / analyzers, so squash it and get back to discussing the fights.. Ya dig?

[Luca Fury]

Luca dude could I ask for your take on cerrone/stephens and cormier/barnett ? Which way you leaning on these ones ?

Will be betting a little on Cormier. He won me good money as a dog vs Big Foot, so I'm hoping he can do it again. Fight should be all stand up with Cormier's speed being the difference. If it's not going well for him, he can lay n pray Barnett. Josh is good on the ground, but not from his back -- he's all top position. i am concerned about Cormier's reaction when guys swing on him. He backs straight up, kind of panics and flails his arms. Still, I like him at around even money.

As for Cerrone/Stephens, Cerrone has had trouble with guys who are fast and can bang. He's also inconsistent. Njokuani, McCullough, Kelly and Diaz all lit him up in their fights. Stephens might be able to also and could replicate the performance over Sam Stout, where he dominated (yet somehow the decision was split). Donald has a great chin and can take a beating, but if he fights dumb, he'll lose. He needs to be patient and pick his shots, or take the fight to the ground. Anthony Pettis out wrestled Jeremy, so Cerrone should be abel to as well. If it does go to the mat, Cerrone should be able to tap him.

I'm either going to stay away from betting this fight or maybe bet Cerrone straight at -260 and Stephens by decision at +425. Cerrone is definitely the likely winner and can finish Stephens or decision him. But Stephens may be able to capitalize, and if he does, he'll win by decision, not stoppage. This way, if Cerrone wins, I break even, but if Stephens scores the upset, I make a small profit. I would be blown away if Stephens KO'd Cerrone's great chin, and we know Jeremy is limited on the ground. It's kind of like free money, but there is risk involved if something flukey happens and Stephens KO's him.

[Luca Fury]

At first I was amused at luca / wanna until I just looked through the thread and saw that your guys' banter has gone on for pages and paragraphs over nonsense... I'm not one to talk because I know I've been one to get into drawn out arguments on here over bs / nonsense and talk shit, but damn lol..

I myself, and I'm sure others too, cordially ask you both to shut it and quit bickering back and forth like some dramatic biotches.. Get over it fellas, its net beef, you both said your parts, and honestly you both look silly at this point. This thread has turned somewhat 'sherdogish'.. I think you're both solid mma gamblers / analyzers, so squash it and get back to discussing the fights.. Ya dig?

All I did was defend myself -- he's the instigator. He's been trying to trash my image for too long, so I'm done ignoring him. I had to finally put the stamp down.

As long as he stops making up lies about me, the argument will be over. I only reply to him.

[Wanna Bet On It?]

At first I was amused at luca / wanna until I just looked through the thread and saw that your guys' banter has gone on for pages and paragraphs over nonsense... I'm not one to talk because I know I've been one to get into drawn out arguments on here over bs / nonsense and talk shit, but damn lol..

I myself, and I'm sure others too, cordially ask you both to shut it and quit bickering back and forth like some dramatic biotches.. Get over it fellas, its net beef, you both said your parts, and honestly you both look silly at this point. This thread has turned somewhat 'sherdogish'.. I think you're both solid mma gamblers / analyzers, so squash it and get back to discussing the fights.. Ya dig?

I blocked him already. Anything he's posting, which I presume are replies to my comments, I can't control. The only reason I started talking about him, after I said in this thread that I was moving on last night from this feud, was Joshkrotchek making stupid assumptions about why I didn't like Luca, accusing me of having a chip on my shoulder.

I completely agree this is too played out. I really don't want anything to do with the kid. I'd like to move on and never mention him again; people should stop throwing flames on the fire because this whole thing is detracting from the TUF Live thread.

If he continues to bring my name up on here or keeps trying to smear me on twitter, that's on him. But I'm with you 100% MMAbetMASTA. No more of this bullshit.

[Luca Fury]

I blocked him already. Anything he's posting, which I presume are replies to my comments, I can't control. The only reason I started talking about him, after I said in this thread that I was moving on last night from this feud, was Joshkrotchek making stupid assumptions about why I didn't like Luca, accusing me of having a chip on my shoulder.

I completely agree this is too played out. I really don't want anything to do with the kid. I'd like to move on and never mention him again; people should stop throwing flames on the fire because this whole thing is detracting from the TUF Live thread.

If he continues to bring my name up on here or keeps trying to smear me on twitter, that's on him. But I'm with you 100% MMAbetMASTA. No more of this bullshit.

If you didn't want anything to do with me, you shouldn't have bashed me on Twitter, the Sherdog forums and here. Don't go running your mouth if you don't want to start an argument.

[JOSHKROTCHNECK]

Will be betting a little on Cormier. He won me good money as a dog vs Big Foot, so I'm hoping he can do it again. Fight should be all stand up with Cormier's speed being the difference. If it's not going well for him, he can lay n pray Barnett. Josh is good on the ground, but not from his back -- he's all top position. i am concerned about Cormier's reaction when guys swing on him. He backs straight up, kind of panics and flails his arms. Still, I like him at around even money.

I really like cormier in this one. I think barnetts takedowns have been severely overestimated. He took down rogers and kharitanov both have terrible TDD. Only chance barnett wins is if cormier gets a little too confident over comits on a punch and barnett ducks clinches and trips. Because this thing goes to the ground and cormiers only getting up after he's taped or the bell for the next round sounds. But the probability of that scenario is low in my opinion. I even think cormier can knock him out, his speed is a massive difference maker in this fight for me.

I like stephens against cerrone. I dont rate cerrones boxing ability. He punches straight, is predictable and lacks power. He also leaves his chin dangling. I've seen him be out punched before and I like a well rounded boxer against a guy who prefers to exchange kicks. He could take him down but stephens took down pettis. Cerrone has very good TDD though. If stephens can come out fast and close the gap use his superior boxing to knock the greg jackson game planning out of him I can see him doing well. A lot of ifs there. Probably will try to cover my a$$ somehow but I like stephens a lot in this match up.

[JOSHKROTCHNECK]

I blocked him already. Anything he's posting, which I presume are replies to my comments, I can't control. The only reason I started talking about him, after I said in this thread that I was moving on last night from this feud, was Joshkrotchek making stupid assumptions about why I didn't like Luca, accusing me of having a chip on my shoulder.

I completely agree this is too played out. I really don't want anything to do with the kid. I'd like to move on and never mention him again; people should stop throwing flames on the fire because this whole thing is detracting from the TUF Live thread.

If he continues to bring my name up on here or keeps trying to smear me on twitter, that's on him. But I'm with you 100% MMAbetMASTA. No more of this bullshit.

Look I dont know you bro, aint here to flame just talk MMA and get advice/opinions from other people that care enough about MMA and betting to sit here on a friday night and talk shit. Forget all the bullshit only gets in the way of making money.

[GigaOuts]

Am I entertain? just a bit. I would like it much better if Luca Fury and Wanna Bet post their Tuf pick and bet size.
$100 on Michael Chiesa @ +250 - many underdog won, and Chiesa is 9-0. I might add another $100 if odd goes up to +300
$100 on James Vick @ +175 - Vick stay cool when Cruickshank bring in the offense heat, show tremendous TDD on Episode 1. Almost lost by wrestlef*ck. Hoping (finger crossed) Joe Proctor don't have slick TD. Need 1 dog to hit, than I am plus.

$100 on James Vick @ +175
$100 on Michael Chiesa @ +250
$100 on James Vick @ +188
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+$613
Running total 15.6g since Nov 2011.

[Luca Fury]

$100 on James Vick @ +175
$100 on Michael Chiesa @ +250
$100 on James Vick @ +188
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+$613
Running total 15.6g since Nov 2011.

Wow, nice job! Congrats!

[fosho14]

$100 on James Vick @ +175
$100 on Michael Chiesa @ +250
$100 on James Vick @ +188
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+$613
Running total 15.6g since Nov 2011.

I concur, excellent job gigaouts!

[GigaOuts]

I concur, excellent job gigaouts!

TY, but very upset with myself for missing (not seeing) a huge obvious LOCK bet - Straus vs Sandro fight. If I plan to do this for living, I can't let this opportunity pass me by again.

I only have $200 on Straus @ +140 but lost $200 on Travis Marx. Bellator 68 : +$80....sob.

[Luca Fury]

TY, but very upset with myself for missing (not seeing) a huge obvious LOCK bet - Straus vs Sandro fight. If I plan to do this for living, I can't let this opportunity pass me by again.

I only have $200 on Straus @ +140 but lost $200 on Travis Marx. Bellator 68 : +$80....sob.

Isn't it weird how how a missed opportunity almost feels worse than a loss? I wanted to bet on Patino tonight but because of all the delay and stuff, I wasn't able to. He KO'd his opponent quick and now I'm bummed. I still mad a nice profit for the night off of Bellator, but that one missed opportunity burns so bad! Instead of being happy about making some quick cash tonight, all I can think about is how I should have made even more. Gotta move on, though.

You can't kick yourself over it. It will happen often and always hurts, but you gotta be a glass is half full type of person. Usually, missed opportunities happen because you weren't that confident in a bet. But you have to remember that it's better to play it safe and miss out on profit, rather than make a risky bet and lose money.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

[illmatick]

meh, Saunders probably worth a look if he keeps climbing.

[Loggan]

Took 3u @Ogle +415

[Vaughany]

lol Chad Mendes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0rujY6-m9xU#!

[Oblivian]

Ogle above +350 seems crazy to me. Am I missing something?

[Vaughany]

Just because of Iaquinta's wrestling again I guess

[GigaOuts]

Took 3u @Ogle +415

Nice one. Have $100 on Ogle too at +415 but regretting not put in maximum $250...doh.

$50 on Chris Saunders @ +290 (I like Pichel but not paying the juice, would bet more on Chris Saunders if he didn't involve in a war with Sam Silicia)
$100 on Andy Ogle @ +415 (I pick Ogle at even odd, f*ck me! Why didn't I bet $250 at that odd)

Add $200 on Andy Ogle @ +376, I cap him at -120......Go Go Go Ogle, movement & counter and more movement, than unexpected TD around 4:00 minutes mark to close the round. Finger crossed.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

I'm guessing Renan Barao is the obvious choice to replace Cruz to fight Faber for the interm title

[Wanna Bet On It?]

I'm guessing Renan Barao is the obvious choice to replace Cruz to fight Faber for the interm title

Or Michael McDonald.

Keep Barao vs Menjivar and then the winner can fight the interim BW champ while Cruz heals from ACL surgery... unless the BW interim champion plays the popular waiting game for the real belt.

[Vitooch]

I see that alot of dogs have been hitting so took a flyer with Ogle at +375....Not sure if I should do the same with Saunders....

Can anyone vouch for Saunders play?

[DR225]

I have a great deal more confidence in Saunders than Ogle. Ogle didn't look that great in his last fight and has terrible tdd, while Saunders beat one of the best guys in the house. And if remember correctly, Pichel was losing the standup in the first round against a wrestler with terrible hands. It was probably the threat of take downs but regardless, he wasn't near as impressive as Saunders.

[gabe]

Both dogs shouldn't be above +200, so they're a steal. I'm probably not gonna bet these fights, though. I've bet on two fights (Jury and Tickle) and they both lost... and every other fight I haven't bet on I had the right pick in. Shame...

[MMAbetMASTA]

Ticket#:69982272 May 18 10:05 PM

INTERNET / -1

May 18 10:19 AM

MU

STRAIGHT BET [24101] A OGLE +350 (A OGLE vrs A IAQUINTA)

25 / 88

Ticket#:69982273 May 18 10:05 PM

INTERNET / -1

May 18 10:19 AM

MU

STRAIGHT BET [24105] C SAUNDERS +280 (C SAUNDERS vrs V PICHEL)

25 / 70

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First time betting on tuf this season, wish I would have been on all the dogs in the previous bouts!!! Unfortunately, I actually think these two dogs are gonna lose, but at the odds I had to take a stab and hoping the trend of dogs coming through will hit in one of these fights... Like saunders more for reasons already stated in this thread. GL everyone

[Luca Fury]

I'm guessing Renan Barao is the obvious choice to replace Cruz to fight Faber for the interm title

It is Barao. He's who they are announcing as Faber's opponent tonight.

Trust me, it's him.

[Wanna Bet On It?]

Tiny play on Saunders at +300. I think Pichel has fierce standup but Saunders is a survivor and a live dog.

[Grabaka]

i have a hundy too

[Vitooch]

Dear god Brittany...

[Vitooch]

Cecil got it right!

[Wanna Bet On It?]

Cecil got it right!

Yep. Never thought I'd see the day when Cecil Peoples was the lone judge of reason.

Saunders won that first round. He'd probably lose the third as Pichel was coming on strong late but who knows with those two? That was bullshit.

[Luca Fury]

It is Barao. He's who they are announcing as Faber's opponent tonight.

Trust me, it's him.

And there you have it. It's official. Who could have seen Barao coming?! So shocking... Not...

Also, glad the TUF favs finally pulled through.