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**gabe** · 01-31-12, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Should Thompson be a huge favorite over Stiggen?

where do you see the line for that?

**Vaughany** · 01-31-12, 12:05 PM

He probably will be, especially as Stitts is comin in on short notice

**Beelzebubzy** · 01-31-12, 12:06 PM

I dont see a line. I just wanted to know some others thoughts on this fight. I have not seen much of Stiggen, but know about the hype on Thompson

**gabe** · 01-31-12, 12:07 PM

where do you guys stand on natal vs kuiper?

i'm digging kuiper-- wonder what the line on that will be.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 01-31-12, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

He probably will be, especially as Stitts is comin in on short notice

And he comes in having trained / being loosely associated with Firas, GSP, Rashad, Marquardt, etc... so he's gonna have a bit of hype juice me thinks.

**Beelzebubzy** · 01-31-12, 12:18 PM

Thats what I am thinking too ED. Who knows what his TDD will be.
I will most likely staying away.

**illmatick** · 01-31-12, 12:48 PM

In the same boat. Only thing I could find were his kickboxing matches.

**Vaughany** · 01-31-12, 12:53 PM

Obviously kickboxing (Karate) is his main strength. But he's also been training BJJ since a young age - he's a black-belt under his brother-in-law Carlos Machado - so even if his TDD is wank I doubt Stittgen is gonna run through him on the ground. This isnt a John Makdessi type fighter we are dealing with here

**Educ8d Degener8** · 01-31-12, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Obviously kickboxing (Karate) is his main strength. But he's also been training BJJ since a young age - he's a black-belt under his brother-in-law Carlos Machado - so even if his TDD is wank I doubt Stittgen is gonna run through him on the ground. This isnt a John Makdessi type fighter we are dealing with here

Yah, I forgot about that Machado bit.

**gabe** · 01-31-12, 01:10 PM

Somebody needs to do a contest for 143

**NunyaBidness** · 01-31-12, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by gabe

if you've got netflix, gimme some streaming recommendations.

i'd recommend:
street thief (shot like a documentary, so good)
leaves of grass
red state (kevin smith's horror flick)
wristcutters
paper man

Red state sucked bigtime. Tried to sit down and watch it twice and couldn't get through either time.

Check out Pontypool.

**gabe** · 01-31-12, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Red state sucked bigtime. Tried to sit down and watch it twice and couldn't get through either time. Check out Pontypool.

Serious? I was into it from begining to end.

Watch Street Thief and let me know what you think.

**Vaughany** · 01-31-12, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by gabe

if you've got netflix, gimme some streaming recommendations.

i'd recommend:
street thief (shot like a documentary, so good)
leaves of grass
red state (kevin smith's horror flick)
wristcutters
paper man

Have u watched Cell 211 yet? See if they've got that on netflix or just watch it on novamov link I gave u.

Cell 211 (2009) ⭐ 7.6 | Action, Crime, Drama

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1242422/

1h 53m

Also, Eden Lake is a good movie...UK horror/thriller film starring Michael Fassbender and has the kid from This is England.... check tht out.. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1020530/

**Vaughany** · 01-31-12, 05:13 PM

Anybody see "The Confession" - Sutherland and John Hurt? Was a pretty good TV movie...only an hour long

**gabe** · 01-31-12, 05:54 PM

Got to win $100 on Diaz at -175 and to win $500 at -180 -- Looking to hedge with Condit at +200 or better.

**The HOFF** · 01-31-12, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by gabe

I actually thought Kos would open at AT LEAST -350...

As did I. My largest bets are supposed to be 10u. However when this opened at -220 I put 44u to win 20u. I see no advantage for Pierce and the only way to victory being a fluke KO.

**gabe** · 01-31-12, 06:27 PM

GL

**PunisherIND** · 01-31-12, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

As did I. My largest bets are supposed to be 10u. However when this opened at -220 I put 44u to win 20u. I see no advantage for Pierce and the only way to victory being a fluke KO.

GL Hoff. I have 5 units on koscheck but im planning on hedging with pierce by decision. if this remains standing, i can see pierce being more active and winning a close decision.

**The HOFF** · 01-31-12, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

GL Hoff. I have 5 units on koscheck but im planning on hedging with pierce by decision. if this remains standing, i can see pierce being more active and winning a close decision.

I may hedge out a little on fight night depending on what those lines look like. But either way I'm still going to have a large bet on Koscheck.

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**gabe** · 02-01-12, 04:17 AM

made it public again for a bit:

**Vaughany** · 02-01-12, 04:20 AM

Originally posted by gabe

Not definite, no. We'll know where he stands after that fight.

Might not be standing after the fight!

**gabe** · 02-01-12, 04:22 AM

**Vaughany** · 02-01-12, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by gabe

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/20138382

rogan, eddie bravo, joey diaz UFC 143 talk!!!!!

Have to agree with Rogan when he says you'd be crazy to favour either fighter in the main event (after Diaz tells him the odds).

**Vaughany** · 02-01-12, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Should Thompson be a huge favorite over Stiggen?

-200 to -250 is about right IMO, especially seeing as Stittgen is on late notice

**BDillon1** · 02-01-12, 12:14 PM

Gabe, I know your stance on Renan Pegado, and I agree and bet accordingly but man Jorgensen scares me... that's the only fight on this card that I'm not comfortable with. What do you see in Renan to put him in all your parlays?

**gabe** · 02-01-12, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by BDillon1

Gabe, I know your stance on Renan Pegado, and I agree and bet accordingly but man Jorgensen scares me... that's the only fight on this card that I'm not comfortable with. What do you see in Renan to put him in all your parlays?

Well, I mean- Jorgensen wasn't impressive over Jeff Curran, a guy he should have dominated. Before that, he got a lucky KO against Ken Stone. He hasn't faced any of this calibur since Dom Cruz; Cruz beat him, and Renan is arguably better than Cruz. I think Renan is the elite type of fighter like Aldo/Barboza/Cruz/Penn- guys who have great TDD. I think he can keep it on the feet, but if he does get taken down, I think he can work his guard well and possibly turn things around and get the top position.

**gabe** · 02-01-12, 02:48 PM

Max Holloway +310 > Dustin Poirier (2/5)

***UPSET OF THE NIGHT***

Max has a height and reach advantage, is fast, has great cardio, and is HAWAIIAN!!! lol- The kid is talented, but Dustin Poirier is the toughest guy he's ever faced. It's gonna be tough, but my gut is telling me this has a good chance of being an upset. I'll take that good chance at a nice dog price. Line is at +310 now, but I expect it to be at least +350, possibly +400 or +450 by fight time. Wait til then to lock it up. I'll include him in a couple parlays, too, but will also include Poirier in a couple. Holloway +3.5 would be good, too.

**Vitooch** · 02-01-12, 02:59 PM

You stole that "I love six year olds" line from Demetri Martin. Your new name is Gabe Mencia.

**NunyaBidness** · 02-01-12, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by gabe

I'll include him in a couple parlays, too, but will also include Poirier in a couple.

Oh jesus.

Let me show you something.

Parlay 1: Roy Nelson -150 + Max Holloway +350 = +650

Parlay 2: Roy Nelson -150 + Dustin Poirier -400 = +108

The two together = Roy Nelson -159

You should never have the opposite sides of the same play in different parlays except very special circumstances (circumventing limits, line movement, etc).

**gabe** · 02-01-12, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

You stole that "I love six year olds" line from Demetri Martin. Or should I say, Gabe Mencia.

No, but I did notice him doing a similar line after I had made that video. And in the same set he did, he also did a joke where he ripped off Mitch Hedberg.

I've also heard Chris Hardwick and even Redban do a very similar line since I made that video.

**gabe** · 02-01-12, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

You stole that "I love six year olds" line from Demetri Martin. Your new name is Gabe Mencia.

you're a sh*thead

**Vaughany** · 02-01-12, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by gabe

No, but I did notice him doing a similar line after I had made that video. And in the same set he did, he also did a joke where he ripped off Mitch Hedberg.

I've also heard Chris Hardwick and even Redban do a very similar line since I made that video.

So ur sayin Demetri copied ur gag after seeing ur video?

**Vitooch** · 02-01-12, 03:23 PM

Im joshin ya, Gabe.

**gabe** · 02-01-12, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

So ur sayin Demetri copied ur gag after seeing ur video?

no, i'm saying it's a simple line a lot of comedians could think up. foolio.

i'm sure demitri was telling that joke before i ever wrote it for that video.

actually, it was a tweet i had tweeted that i decided to use for the vid.