UFC on FUEL TV 2 (SWEDEN)

[The HOFF]

I played Gustafsson/Silva does not go the distance at -140. I was originally going to play Gus ITD but not worth it at +112. Playing fight does not go the distance is safer because I can still win with a Silva KO.

On side note, I have been MIA from the MMA forum and am going insane as there hasn't been a real UFC event in God knows how long and this event is still 2 weeks away.

[Vitooch]

I played Gustafsson/Silva does not go the distance at -140. I was originally going to play Gus ITD but not worth it at +112. Playing fight does not go the distance is safer because I can still win with a Silva KO.

On side note, I have been MIA from the MMA forum and am going insane as there hasn't been a real UFC event in God knows how long and this event is still 2 weeks away.

-140 is insane value. Wish Bookmaker would release props early like 5Dimes does.
As for the lack of UFC evens, hang in there. Dana White sort of screwed us with a few months of alot of UFC and then a month and a half of nothing but TUF. Why don't you bet Bellator every Friday? I've made a profit these last 3 weeks betting Bellator. There is plenty of value to be found in these events because of the smaller amount of action than UFC events.

[gabe]

Dennis Siver +125
Diego Nunes -165

[Vitooch]

I would gladly take Nunes if I had Bookmaker

[Vaughany]

Not on Bookmaker brah... 5dimes/Sportbet released. I thought u had Bookmaker? Post above your last one suggests u wer hoping for BM to release props before sportbet

[Vitooch]

Complete brainfart...I meant I wish I had 5Dimes...Definitely looking to get money on my 5Dimes account as soon as possible. I think it's the best book for MMA, atleast in the US

[Vaughany]

Complete brainfart...I meant I wish I had 5Dimes...Definitely looking to get money on my 5Dimes account as soon as possible. I think it's the best book for MMA, atleast in the US

ha oh right I see. Yeah, I'm the opposite, got plenty in sportbet but nothing in Bookmaker. And yeah Sportbet/5dimes are the best

[Vaughany]

Diego Nunes seems set on keeping it standing against Siver...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCfwSWqwwX0&feature=share

[Hannibal]

Why are the lines on sportbet always better? Because they don't allow parlays?

[Rubber Guard]

Is Nunes not the clear play here?


Siver is decent, but his power is a myth. He hasn't stopped anyone with strikes in 2.5 years, and it was inferior competition. He does have solid technical standup, but he is no where near as quick as Nunes. And Nunes has some pretty good MT himself. On he ground Nunes is much better in the BJJ department.


Plus it is Siver's first time at 145. He can make 145, but he was a hulked up 155er, losing that much muscle will effect him in some way.

I though Nunes would be -220 to -240. I guess he did start out there and it dropped?

[Vaughany]

Sportbet do allow parlays. Do you mean because bestfightodds has Nunes at -159 on sportbet and -165 on 5dimes? If so, Im not sure because it's still -165 for me on sportbet....maybe they include what it would be if the reduced juice was offered

[Vaughany]

Is Nunes not the clear play here?


Siver is decent, but his power is a myth. He hasn't stopped anyone with strikes in 2.5 years, and it was inferior competition. He does have solid technical standup, but he is no where near as quick as Nunes. And Nunes has some pretty good MT himself. On he ground Nunes is much better in the BJJ department.


Plus it is Siver's first time at 145. He can make 145, but he was a hulked up 155er, losing that much muscle will effect him in some way.

I though Nunes would be -220 to -240. I guess he did start out there and it dropped?

Yeah early money has come in on Siver. I've just played Nunes at -150 on paddypower as I think money will come back in on Nunes and push him closer to -200. Perhaps Siver's power is over-rated, but nonetheless, he is compact and throws hooks with bad intentions. Nunes' speed advantage should be the key, but he does tend to leave himself exposed at times - he got battered by Mike Brown in the first round of their fight. Fact is he hasnt faced a striker as good as Siver apart from perhaps Florian who he lost to, and from what he's saying it looks like he's happy to stand n trade with Siver rather than use his takedowns which are pretty good.

[Vitooch]

Yep, Nunes is the clear play here. Speed kills, especially in this matchup.

If Pearson and Fisher could hang with Siver in a kickboxing match, then a very technical kickboxing specialist at 145 in Nunes should be able to pick him apart. Siver will have a strength advantage, but this strength doesn't really translate to him to being a knockout artist. His TDD will benefit from this added strength at 145, but Nunes wants to keep this fight standing. We also don't know how will Siver will be able to handle this weight cut.

[Vaughany]

Yep, Nunes is the clear play here. Speed kills, especially in this matchup.

If Pearson and Fisher could hang with Siver in a kickboxing match, then a very technical kickboxing specialist at 145 in Nunes should be able to pick him apart. Siver will have a strength advantage, but this strength doesn't really translate to him to being a knockout artist. His TDD will benefit from this added strength at 145, but Nunes wants to keep this fight standing. We also don't know how will Siver will be able to handle this weight cut.

The weight-cut will be interesting....I'm sure I've read before or heard before that he has had difficult cuts during week of fights to make 155. Think Helwani or somebody might of spoke about it before the weigh-ins when he fought GSot. But then apparently he did a test cut to 145 and it was fine

[Vaughany]

[Vaughany]

Very interesting latest blog from Brian stann:

UPDATED MAR 30, 2012 1:56 AM ET

Two days before Christmas my wife lost her little brother, Louie, in a very violent death. He was only 26 years old and it was horribly unexpected. Her mother lives with us and, in order to get them both through this tragedy, I decided to rearrange my whole training camp for my next fight — against Alessio Sakara on April 14 on UFC on FUEL TV — and do things differently. I relocated my camp from Albuquerque and trained from home in Scranton, Pa.

I'm still very much a part of Team Jackson, and both Greg Jackson and Mike Winklejohn have been coaching me through this camp from afar. They've been watching tape, passing on advice and will definitely be out in Sweden with me during fight week and on the night of the fight itself. I missed seeing the guys in Albuquerque, but, for the sake of my family, knew I'd made the right decision in staying home.
People lose sight of the fact that life continues when us guys are caught up in the isolation of training camp. Try as we might to focus purely on the fight, you can't ignore what life is going to throw at you along the way. My wife and I never expected such a tragedy to unfold just before Christmas, but it just goes to show that mixed martial arts is a sport, nothing more, and that family will always conquer all, as far as I'm concerned.
It goes without saying that this has been an incredibly difficult time for my wife and our family. Rather than allow it to beat us up and question my role as a fighter, however, I've tried to approach it a different way. I've used this horrible situation to regain some perspective, both on my fighting career and life itself.
Something like this only helps to remind me just why I fight. I am responsible for supporting my family, both emotionally and financially, and mixed martial arts is the way in which I am able to do this. They need my help at a time like this and, thankfully, the UFC has given me an opportunity to provide for them.

It also really put the notion of loss into perspective for me. My last professional loss, to Chael Sonnen in October, wasn't a testing time at all, in retrospect. That was just a defeat. I lost a fight. What could have gone wrong, did go wrong. That was all. Nobody got hurt and there was no irreparable damage.
Through all the trials and tribulations of my life, mixed martial arts has always been my release, my form of escapism. I've used it as my sanctuary from the genuinely harrowing events that have taken place in my life, both during my time in the military and in regular home life.
Ask any fighter and they'll tell you the same thing: The opportunity to go away and train two or three times a day and prepare for a fight is a wonderful distraction from the tougher challenges in life. After you're done from a really tough workout, and you're tired, hurt and broken down, you get these strange moments of true clarity and perspective, moments that allow you to focus on what life means to you.
Unlike the Sonnen loss, the death of my brother-in-law was a genuinely trying situation. I remember the moment I heard the news like it was only yesterday. We were in baggage claim when I got the call. It was our first time home in Pennsylvania, where we planned to spend Christmas Eve and Christmas Day with our families. I had to tell my wife the news as we landed in Pennsylvania. There is nothing worse than watching the woman you love be completely devastated and heartbroken by a piece of news you've delivered to her. It was one of the lowest points of my life.

A lot of people would use an tragedy like this as a potential excuse if they were then unable to perform to their best come fight night. But I can assure everybody reading this, as well as my opponent, Alessio Sakara, that I will be more than ready come April 14. There will be nothing else in the world that I would rather do on that night than step into the octagon and fight.

In fact, after the tragedy I spoke to my family and all the guys at the gym, and everybody came to me with the same advice — they all said I needed to get back in there and compete as soon as possible. No good would come from contacting the UFC and asking for some time off. This is what I do, and this is what I do to provide for my family. Also, my brother-in-law was a big supporter of my career and would have hated for me to either just give up or put the whole thing on hold.
As we've moved closer to this April 14 date, my wife has made a conscious effort to use my fight as a necessary distraction for herself as well. She's helping me prepare and has invested emotionally into this fight. She's also turning the whole episode into a positive and is opening up a foundation in her brother's name. That really shows the strength of my wife.
Adversity is always what truly defines people, and last Christmas was the most testing time for my family — for me, my wife, my kids and everybody else. It was as tough a situation as any of us have experienced. In my mind, this fight on April 14 will go some way to memorializing Louie and showing once again that adversity can be overcome with a strong family and positive outlook. In light of everything that's happened, I've never in my life been more determined and motivated to win a fight. This is the absolute worst time to fight me right now.
How do you think I should go about winning the fight? Tweet me your thoughts @BrianStann.
Middleweight contender Brian Stann battles Italian striker Alessio Sakara in Stockholm, Sweden on April 14 live on FUEL TV.er

[Rubber Guard]

Siver had muscle at 155.

I expect Siver to basically have to stop his eight training for a bit to make this first cut. He needs to lose muscle. So I really don't expect his strength to be much of a factor here.

[gabe]

Siver is going to win. Not even worried about it.

[The HOFF]

-140 is insane value. Wish Bookmaker would release props early like 5Dimes does.
As for the lack of UFC evens, hang in there. Dana White sort of screwed us with a few months of alot of UFC and then a month and a half of nothing but TUF. Why don't you bet Bellator every Friday? I've made a profit these last 3 weeks betting Bellator. There is plenty of value to be found in these events because of the smaller amount of action than UFC events.

Honestly, I don't know enough about the Bellator fighters. I only recognize the ones I saw in the previous years tournament. I've been pretty lazy with opening lines and have had plans the last few Friday nights. Hopefully I can get back into it this month, although I have plans already for the Fuel event so I can't watch live.

[fosho14]

I think siver/nunes is a coin flip fight. There have been some comments about sivers lack of power but nunes hasn't exactly shown he's got any oomph in his strikes either. In fact his last 8 fights have gone to decision where as siver has at least put away a few people by both strikes and submission in that same time span. And ya I agree with what someone said in response to siver's lack of competition; Nunes hasn't defeated anyone of notable value convincingly either so this fight could literally go either way. It is very much possible for siver to outstrike diego nunes. Very very tough fight to call.

[fosho14]

The issue of siver's weight cut introduces even more variables and unknowns. Who knows. I give nunes only the slightest of edge.

[gabe]

Siver will win, I wonder if he'll be able to finish Diego... Probably gonna take a Decish.

[Beelzebubzy]

The issue of siver's weight cut introduces even more variables and unknowns. Who knows. I give nunes only the slightest of edge.

Here are some issues for siver that I question

-The weight cut at age 33. He seemed rather bulky at 155.
-To play devils advocate, he has 1 finish since 2010 and thats against grappling tard and heartless Andre Winner
- Questionable decision wins over Fisher and Wiman,


I think the skill set is close. but I will give all the intangibles in favor of Nunes including camp, heart, size, and chin

[Vitooch]

Siver's close decisions against Pearson and Fisher stand out to me. Nunes is a much more technical, quicker kickboxer than those mentioned opponents, and Nunes will be fighting at his natural weight class. We dont know how the weight cut will affect the bulky Siver.

[Vaughany]

Here are some issues for siver that I question

-The weight cut at age 33. He seemed rather bulky at 155.
-To play devils advocate, he has 1 finish since 2010 and thats against grappling tard and heartless Andre Winner
- Questionable decision wins over Fisher and Wiman,


I think the skill set is close. but I will give all the intangibles in favor of Nunes including camp, heart, size, and chin

ha bit harsh on Mr Winner there...guy took an absolute beating from Njokuani (especially in first round) and lasted all three rounds...he's got a lot of heart IMO...just not very smart

[Beelzebubzy]

ha bit harsh on Mr Winner there...guy took an absolute beating from Njokuani (especially in first round) and lasted all three rounds...he's got a lot of heart IMO...just not very smart

haha ok maybe not heartless. I just hate Winner for the money he has lost me. I lost on the Siver and Lentz fights. Great Talent IMO.


But thank God or Flying Spaghetti Monster for a fight being 12 days away

[helpplease]

what do you guys think about Jason young vs Eric wisely !! because I could see Eric wisely being a Nik Lentz and lay and praying a victory similar to a Omigawa fashion .. and standing Eric Wisely looked really good in the beginning of his fight against Charles oliveria ! that's until he got taken down and submitted though lol

[Libert1ne]

I think siver/nunes is a coin flip fight. There have been some comments about sivers lack of power but nunes hasn't exactly shown he's got any oomph in his strikes either. In fact his last 8 fights have gone to decision where as siver has at least put away a few people by both strikes and submission in that same time span. And ya I agree with what someone said in response to siver's lack of competition; Nunes hasn't defeated anyone of notable value convincingly either so this fight could literally go either way. It is very much possible for siver to outstrike diego nunes. Very very tough fight to call.

Where do you guys see the line moving on this fight?

[Vaughany]

Kruth out with rib injury. Tom DeBlass steps in (Ricardo Almeida black-belt)

[Wanna Bet On It?]

Apparently Wiman is out versus Bocek. John Alessio makes his return!

[Vaughany]

"I will be fighting in UFC Sweden April 14 against Cyrille Diabate. The plan was to let an injury heal but this is an opportunity I cannot let pass. Thanks everyone and I'll fight hard. Godspeed!" - Tom DeBlass

[gabe]

If he's good, he could beat Diabate with multiple injuries.

[Vaughany]

lol very true.

He pulled out of a ROC title defence fight scheduled for 27th because of the injury but now can take a fight against Diabate on 14th! His camp and him must think that they can take Diabate out even with the injury...don't see how it can be any easier than defending the belt in the ROC against "Danny Babcock" tho!

[Beelzebubzy]

Or it's a ufc fight and he will get a second fight even if cereal beats him

[Vaughany]

Or it's a ufc fight and he will get a second fight even if cereal beats him

yeah tht's the thing...they'll have a stipulation in the contract that guarantees another fight for sure. That's probably main reason why he's saying it was "too good to turn down despite the injury"!