UFC on FUEL TV 2 (SWEDEN)

Beelzebubzy · 01-11-12, 04:49 PM

we are going to get an inflated line on Pearson.
He won at 145, plus his previous striking clinic over Siver, plus Sivers drop in weight

THE_LOCKSMITH · 03-04-12, 02:00 PM

MAIN CARD (FUEL TV)

Alexander Gustafsson vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Alessio Sakara vs. Brian Stann
Siyar Bahadurzada vs. Paulo Thiago
DaMarques Johnson vs. John Maguire

PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook)

Damacio Page vs. Brad Pickett
Diego Nunes vs. Dennis Siver
Jason Young vs. Eric Wisely
Papy Abedi vs. James Head
Yoislandy Izquierdo vs. Reza Madadi
Cyrille Diabate vs. Jorgen Kruth
Francis Carmont vs. Magnus Cedenblad
Simeon Thoresen vs. Besam Yousef

THE_LOCKSMITH · 03-04-12, 02:02 PM

this has to be the longest gap between UFC events in a while FX 2 (March 2nd) Fueltv 2 (Apr 14)

Beelzebubzy · 03-04-12, 02:04 PM

going through withdrawal already Lock?

THE_LOCKSMITH · 03-04-12, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

going through withdrawal already Lock?

yes i am, but we do get a bunch of Bellator cards in the meantime

Vitooch · 03-04-12, 02:43 PM

Vitooch · 03-04-12, 02:44 PM

Btw I have a big play lined up for this event. Anyone wanna guess what it is?

Vaughany · 03-04-12, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

Btw I have a big play lined up for this event. Anyone wanna guess what it is?

Sakara pulling out week of the fight?

Beelzebubzy · 03-04-12, 03:34 PM

Carmont

Vitooch · 03-04-12, 06:17 PM

Mcquire

GunShard · 03-05-12, 08:56 AM

This card looks like a hard one to predict.

ghost kid · 03-06-12, 04:02 PM

per UFC:

Lil Nog is injured (knee). Alexander Gustaffson will now fight Thiago Silva in Sweden as the main event of UFC on FUEL 3.

Wanna Bet On It? · 03-06-12, 04:18 PM

Thiago via equine urine

Beelzebubzy · 03-06-12, 04:20 PM

I really like Gustaffson in that matchup

Vaughany · 03-06-12, 04:37 PM

More interesting match-up for me. Makes sense tht he'd step in as he's been sparring a lot with Sakara. Ruins my Gustaffsson bet at -166 tho

illmatick · 03-06-12, 04:42 PM

Damn, that sucks. Didn't realize you had that good of a number.

Should be a much easier fight for Gustaf imo.

Vaughany · 03-06-12, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

Damn, that sucks. Didn't realize you had that good of a number.

Should be a much easier fight for Gustaf imo.

Yee, was pretty good and could of got it alot better, opened at -130 or something on unibet.

Dunno if it will be easier, at least Thiago offers more of a takedown threat than Lil Nog

Beelzebubzy · 03-06-12, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

More interesting match-up for me. Makes sense tht he'd step in as he's been sparring a lot with Sakara. Ruins my Gustaffsson bet at -166 tho

Silva has been sparring with Sakara?

That right there has the two best chins in all of MMA

Beelzebubzy · 03-06-12, 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=Vaughany;14029087]Yee, was pretty good and could of got it alot better, opened at -130 or something on unibet.

Dunno if it will be easier, at least Thiago offers more of a takedown threat than Lil Nog[/QUOTE]
+1 hopefully, Thiago isnt on the roids.

illmatick · 03-06-12, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Yee, was pretty good and could of got it alot better, opened at -130 or something on unibet.

Dunno if it will be easier, at least Thiago offers more of a takedown threat than Lil Nog

True, but I was expecting Nog's counter punching ability to really bother him. Thiago is more likely to get picked off by Gustaf from the outside,imo. If Thiago shows up with that Brandon Vera strength then maybe I'd be worried, he.

Grabaka · 03-06-12, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Yee, was pretty good and could of got it alot better, opened at -130 or something on unibet.

Dunno if it will be easier, at least Thiago offers more of a takedown threat than Lil Nog

Jeez...these guys at unibet!
I guess ill make me an account.

Vrakas · 03-06-12, 05:26 PM

What if Thiago starts slapping the mauler and playing the drums on him like he did with the truth? I just hope Thiago can keep a beat otherwise our ears might be mauled.

Vaughany · 03-06-12, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

Jeez...these guys at unibet!
I guess ill make me an account.

They only opened because they are a Swedish company and event is in Sweden. If a Swedish or Scandinavian fighter is fighting on any card they'll also bring his odds out early like with Kuivanen

Grabaka · 03-06-12, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

They only opened because they are a Swedish company and event is in Sweden. If a Swedish or Scandinavian fighter is fighting on any card they'll also bring his odds out early like with Kuivanen

But they have dumb props odds like paddy often, dont they?

Vaughany · 03-06-12, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

But they have dumb props odds like paddy often, dont they?

Sometimes a bit out, but like skybet they seem to of tightened up recently.

They might open up the Gustaf THiago Silva line first as well

eligibletackle · 03-07-12, 02:11 AM

Like Sakara (+310), too good of a price on Sakara if it's going to be contested on the feet. Maybe Stann will have a lame Jackson gameplan that makes what should be a great slugfest into ZZzzzZZzz (see Guillard/Stephens), but hard not to like Sakara at those prices.

I'll wait till lines open but might be liking Thiago here at the likely dog odds. He's like Gustaffson in a lot of way, just ruthless power & agression. I was overly impressed w/ Silva's ability to take down Vera, who's really no slouch in that department, a lot of the bjj style ones. Maybe I'll need to review more footage but Gustaffson looked good w/ TDD vs Phil Davis, but Te Huna got a nice trip/toss w/ relative ease. And it's easy to forget that Silva's mount is pretty rock solid. There's a lot of hype behind the Mauler and hope I can capitalize on it. Just from a fan perspective, really like this matchup.

Pearson makes sense, his gameplan vs Siver was pretty perfect. Doubt he'll be available at a good price though.

Wanna Bet On It? · 03-07-12, 02:34 AM

Eligibletackle, who's in your Av? I'm temped to say Jumbo Elliott in the greatest MNF comeback of all time but IIRC his only catch was in the end zone.

Vitooch · 03-07-12, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by eligibletackle

Like Sakara (+310), too good of a price on Sakara if it's going to be contested on the feet. Maybe Stann will have a lame Jackson gameplan that makes what should be a great slugfest into ZZzzzZZzz (see Guillard/Stephens), but hard not to like Sakara at those prices.

I'll wait till lines open but might be liking Thiago here at the likely dog odds. He's like Gustaffson in a lot of way, just ruthless power & agression. I was overly impressed w/ Silva's ability to take down Vera, who's really no slouch in that department, a lot of the bjj style ones. Maybe I'll need to review more footage but Gustaffson looked good w/ TDD vs Phil Davis, but Te Huna got a nice trip/toss w/ relative ease. And it's easy to forget that Silva's mount is pretty rock solid. There's a lot of hype behind the Mauler and hope I can capitalize on it. Just from a fan perspective, really like this matchup.

Pearson makes sense, his gameplan vs Siver was pretty perfect. Doubt he'll be available at a good price though.

When judging Jackson and his "boring" gameplans, also see Guillard's KO over Dunham, Condit's KOs over Stun Gun and Dan Hardy, all of Shane Carwin's KOs, etc.. As for Sakara, I do think +310 may be good enough odds for a SMALL play. Sakara may be undervalued here and Stann overvalued, more so the latter. Stann's KO over Leben was surprising and impressive, but Leben isn't exactly an unstoppable force, and Santiago is barely a top 20 MW. Stann may have knocked another notable striker in Leben but Sakara's boxing is much sharper and technical. I would hesitate to lay so much juice on Stann when the striking advantage MAY go slightly to Sakara in this matchup. Sakara has been battling injuries over these last few years, but training seems to be going well at ATT this time around, with Thiago Silva as a notable training partner. Considering Sakara's boxing skills and Stann's respect for said skills, we can see Jackson develop a wrestling based gameplan for this fight, possibly working for submissions at top position (we'll see what Stann by submission props are like also).

Vrakas · 03-07-12, 05:04 AM

Legionarius will be handily defeated. How he is defeated, however, is up to Captain America. What's the line on Captain America by Final Justice KO?

Vitooch · 03-07-12, 05:38 PM

Still like Gus against Silva. Silvas biggest weapon in this matchup is his top control and GnP. Gus has proven in his fight against Te Huna that he can handle an opponent with said skillset. Gus is efficient off his back, and seems to get the better of scrambles and struggles for position. While Gustaffson may prefer to strike with the much less, much more agressive Silva, Gustaffson has the capacity to and won't hesitate to seize opportunities on the ground. We saw how quickly Gustaffson sank in the hooks and took a gassed Te Huna's back, delivered GnP and eventually submitted him. Also, we can take Silva's potential ring rust, the effect of getting off the peds, and potential cardio issues into effect.

gabe · 03-07-12, 05:43 PM

I guess you decided not to say what play you're going big on?

Vitooch · 03-07-12, 05:49 PM

No i thought i mentioned the play i really liked and its Maquire

illmatick · 03-07-12, 05:51 PM

Alex opens at -300

gabe · 03-07-12, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

No i thought i mentioned the play i really liked and its Maquire

You mean against the guy that lost to Matt Riddle? lol

Maguire should dominate DJ, but DJ could steal it with a triangle or something... I was originally siding DJ, but am on Maguire, too, myself-- would have to see the line to be sure, though... but I'm liking Maguire's chances a lot better...

Vitooch · 03-07-12, 07:07 PM

Macquire has very good submission defense and a very strong top game. Also, Maquire doesn't seem content in his opponent's guard and works for dominant positions on the ground. I have a tough time seeing Johnson catch Maquire, as Maquire seems like the one who will be doing the catching. Maquire by RNC seems reasonable.