Yoshida -125 v. Baroni

**Kaladarus** · 08-30-11, 06:13 PM

Baroni can win, but I think your 33% chance is fairly close to what it actually is. Definitely a good play on Yoshida at -125. Yoshida has a lot more ways to win this fight.

**Jordan23** · 08-31-11, 12:17 AM

You really have to like Yoshida here

**bjpenn85** · 08-31-11, 03:19 AM

i dont have any strong opinions on this fight. Evaluating whos the best fighter is quite difficult. I think baroni has the advantage 1.round. At the same time, he may be stronger than yoshida as well as having a decent amount of power. I dont think baroni has 33% chance, i think this fight is very close to 50 50. Both guys do categorically loose every time they meet the slightest resistance in the cage. I simply cant bet on either guy.

**sirchadwick1** · 08-31-11, 06:24 AM

I'm not big on Yoshida, but I fade Baroni at almost every opportunity. At -125 it's going to be hard for me not to put a few units on Yoshida. People tend to overrate Baroni's KO ability and the level of competition has more than passed him by.

**rocky mattioli** · 08-31-11, 07:14 AM

where`d you pick up the line,t.k.?........i like it as well...

**terpkeg** · 08-31-11, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by rocky mattioli

where`d you pick up the line,t.k.?........i like it as well...

Bookmaker, now at -140.

**sirchadwick1** · 08-31-11, 07:40 AM

I also like a play on Yoshida straight up hedged with Baroni in the 1st rd. Seems like that's always his best shot to win.... his power fades fast after that, along with his motivation.

**Vaughany** · 08-31-11, 07:48 AM

Baroni did drop BRad Tavares in the first round of their fight, if he lands that on Yoshida I doubt he'll recover like BRad did.
And you wont get Baroni in Rnd 1 prop anywhere

**sirchadwick1** · 08-31-11, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

And you wont get Baroni in Rnd 1 prop anywhere

Well, so much for that idea.

I don't even have the lines yet at my books.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 08-31-11, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

Well, so much for that idea.

I don't even have the lines yet at my books.

Yeah, I was like, "what book has props for One Fighting Championship... sign me up!"...

Gotta like Yoshida here... Baroni looked pretty bad against this guy...

**Vaughany** · 08-31-11, 10:28 AM

Nolte is one tough fossil!

He's been training Warriors though in Warrior!...

**MMAbetMASTA** · 08-31-11, 04:17 PM

I'm not touching this, although the line is tempting. If Baroni becomes a bigger dog, I might make a play on him.

While its close and I won't be surprised if zenko gets a sub or gnp tko, Baroni has the better chance to win imo. Zenko is quite small at ww and baroni is big at ww. Baroni gasses, yes, but not so much that I think he can win a stand up fight with zenko. If guymon outworked zenko on the feet and on the ground, I think baroni can out work him on the feet for sure and possbiley stiffle td attempts. Combine that with solid power and LONG recent stretches overseas fine tuning his muay thai (while also gettin trashed on the beach and drinking snake blood), I can defnintely see baroni gettting a tko in any round, although I expect phil to be quite gassed by the last minute of round 2 and could be in trouble in round 3. the big question is if zenko can get him down. Considering he struggled getting guymon down and struggles with bigger guys in general, I give phil a good shot at keeping it upright where he should clobber yoshida. Yet if it gets to the ground, I tihnk phil is toast, and I also think phil's chin is not too great, so who knows what a nice punch from yoshida can do. Therefore, all in all I wouldn't play this fight unless phil becomes a heavier dog - take him if that's the case imo - otherwise don't touch it. My overall prediction though is a baroni tko, round 1.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 08-31-11, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

Yeah, I was like, "what book has props for One Fighting Championship... sign me up!"...

Gotta like Yoshida here... Baroni looked pretty bad against this guy...

lol I didn't see this fight.... But I am a firm believer in your as good as your last fight. I looked up Nolte's profile on sherdog, and yes, he's nothing special by any means, D level. If Baroni struggled to get a UD against this guy, then I might change my above prediction and lean toward yoshida. Then again yoshida's last fight, albiet a stoppage, was against an aging lightweight, someone yoshida was actually bigger than. I think size will always pose problems for yoshida, especially when it comes to striking and also the ability to control positionning.

**NunyaBidness** · 09-01-11, 11:37 AM

This line is getting a ton of action. Money pouring in on Baroni on 5d. Yoshida +125 there, Baroni +120 at bookmaker. Wonder what's going on.

**Vaughany** · 09-01-11, 11:39 AM

Probably just because Yoshida is susceptible to being TKO'd/KO'd and Baroni has some power

**NunyaBidness** · 09-01-11, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Probably just because Yoshida is susceptible to being TKO'd/KO'd and Baroni has some power

Well, sure, but the line kind of sat there for a couple days without much action, gradual action towards Yoshida. Then today, money pours in on Baroni, a small buyback on Yoshida as the arbers readjust the line.

A lot of times when lines move this way, its because someone knows something. Its back to the opener now, but I think if Bookmaker had moved with 5d, we'd still be looking at a -150ish Baroni.

**Vaughany** · 09-01-11, 02:42 PM

Very true, could well be on to something here

**sirchadwick1** · 09-01-11, 03:53 PM

Probably b/c bettors are reading the Sherdog forums and seeing that 75% are on Baroni by KO in the 1st.
The NYBA still has his fans that want him to win, that's for sure... but he's cutting to 170 in this one and it will drain him yet again.

Yoshida probably wins by RNC late in the 3rd.

**NunyaBidness** · 09-01-11, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

Probably b/c bettors are reading the Sherdog forums and seeing that 75% are on Baroni by KO in the 1st.
The NYBA still has his fans that want him to win, that's for sure... but he's cutting to 170 in this one and it will drain him yet again.

Yoshida probably wins by RNC late in the 3rd.

Come on, everyone knows that shertards don't have any money to bet.

**Vaughany** · 09-01-11, 05:30 PM

**MMAbetMASTA** · 09-01-11, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Come on, everyone knows that shertards don't have any money to bet.

Niceeeeeeeeee......

**urge2kill** · 09-01-11, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Come on, everyone knows that shertards don't have any money to bet.

**sirchadwick1** · 09-02-11, 07:13 AM

LOL, reading the forums make you a shertard? Because I'm willing to bet most of us here do.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 09-02-11, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

LOL, reading the forums make you a shertard? Because I'm willing to bet most of us here do.

Naw... we all read 'em... I do mostly for sheer entertainment as 99.999% of those clowns post some of theeeeeeee dumbest drivel I've ever read... though, we need shertards like that to place bets that skew lines to offer us value...

**rocky mattioli** · 09-02-11, 03:57 PM

don`t they have radio frequency devices that keep arrogant teenagers out of the forums?....or is the foaming at the mouth,ill executed sarcasm and poor grammar mandatory?...

**illmatick** · 09-02-11, 04:21 PM

I should have the answer to this fight soon. Gonna break down the next few cards while I slowly approach the next level.

**Vaughany** · 09-02-11, 04:30 PM

haha What is tht shit Ill? Gettin on some Rogan DMT!

**illmatick** · 09-02-11, 04:36 PM

18 milligrams of 2C-e and 5 hits of acid. Been a while since I've had this particular concoction.

2C-E - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C-E

hehe, no DMT..Only tried that twice.

**Vaughany** · 09-03-11, 07:05 AM

OFC starting now, live on sherdog

**Vaughany** · 09-03-11, 07:11 AM

Oh God the Ring Girls introduction was cringe! Dont think the UFC have anything to worry about!

**Vaughany** · 09-03-11, 08:26 AM

Matt Hume reffing some of these fights

**rocky mattioli** · 09-03-11, 08:49 AM

susovan ghosh?.......my god.....some of the new guys on this card look like they were pulled right off the street...that was fugly....

**Vaughany** · 09-03-11, 09:14 AM

haha quite a size difference as well

**Vaughany** · 09-03-11, 09:15 AM

looked like andy wang was kneeled down praying there for his life!