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  • MMAbetMASTA
    SBR MVP
    • 05-24-11
    • 1931

    #36
    Originally posted by Wrecked
    Thanks I appreciate that.
    I honestly think these two size up nicely against each other. I am suspect of Vitor's BJJ, his stand up, his cardio, and that is all because of his ring rust. I believe the only reason he's back in that cage is because of money, and he's fighting for a pay-check. I don't think he's anything like he was, at all. I don't believe in Vitor, and I'm not afraid to bet against him when he has Sexyama in front of him.

    Hoff I'm still deciding on how big I should go in, keep in mind I'm a full time college student, and I have a part time job waiting tables! I was doing the calcs if I would win and I was thinking 400 (10 units).
    Yea I hear you, I am definitely suspect of his cardio and ring rust, these are certainly big question marks. Yet I think his bjj is sound to defend any sub from sexy and its hard not to be impressed with his stand up! I'll give you MUCH respect if you're right and sexy pulls this, GL my friend.
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    • Wrecked
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 05-31-11
      • 887

      #37
      Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

      Yea I hear you, I am definitely suspect of his cardio and ring rust, these are certainly big question marks. Yet I think his bjj is sound to defend any sub from sexy and its hard not to be impressed with his stand up! I'll give you MUCH respect if you're right and sexy pulls this, GL my friend.
      Thanks for the GL! I think Vitor's BJJ is over-rated. We'll see how it goes, and I can't wait for this fight as a fan!
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      • The HOFF
        SBR MVP
        • 07-02-08
        • 4847

        #38
        Originally posted by Wrecked
        Hoff I'm still deciding on how big I should go in, keep in mind I'm a full time college student, and I have a part time job waiting tables! I was doing the calcs if I would win and I was thinking 400 (10 units).
        I rate plays from 1u to 10u, with a bet on a favorite to win 10u and 10u on a dog as my max play. I am comfortable with a 5u play on this one (half of my max). My total bankroll is 100u if that helps. It really depends on your bankroll size.
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        • Wrecked
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 05-31-11
          • 887

          #39
          Originally posted by The HOFF
          I rate plays from 1u to 10u, with a bet on a favorite to win 10u and 10u on a dog as my max play. I am comfortable with a 5u play on this one (half of my max). My total bankroll is 100u if that helps. It really depends on your bankroll size.
          Alright cool.
          I appreciate it man.
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          • The HOFF
            SBR MVP
            • 07-02-08
            • 4847

            #40
            I WAS WAY OFF ON THIS FIGHT. I WAS WRONG.

            Now no excuses here, Akiyama was clearly done and I'm not calling BS or anything, he clearly lost... but oh my god those two shots were to the back of the head.
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            • Nick The Greek
              SBR High Roller
              • 12-31-09
              • 189

              #41
              Time to say goodbye.
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              • jacktheknife
                SBR MVP
                • 09-25-10
                • 1217

                #42
                Originally posted by The HOFF
                I WAS WAY OFF ON THIS FIGHT. I WAS WRONG.

                Now no excuses here, Akiyama was clearly done and I'm not calling BS or anything, he clearly lost... but oh my god those two shots were to the back of the head.
                Hey, I had Vitor and you're damn straight about those shots. Zero turn-in, maybe a straight 75 degree shot and then another. Gonna be a hell of a gif.
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                • spargament
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-22-09
                  • 1739

                  #43
                  Originally posted by The HOFF
                  I WAS WAY OFF ON THIS FIGHT. I WAS WRONG. Now no excuses here, Akiyama was clearly done and I'm not calling BS or anything, he clearly lost... but oh my god those two shots were to the back of the head.
                  THIS IS WHAT REAL MEN and REAL CAPPERS DO WHEN THEY LOSE . This is awesome (being dead serious, not trying to potshot you HOFF). Anyone that doesn't think this gives someone credibility instead of running in a thread spouting off how they had a gut feeling last second and retracted their bet, or claiming sarcasm was the driving force in a pick they made is a fool. Major class, and a great example of why I will continue to respect HOFF, probably more than I would even if he picked Belfort.
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                  • Wrecked
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 05-31-11
                    • 887

                    #44
                    I was way off also!
                    I didn't think Belfort still had that kind of power anymore!
                    Poor sexyama
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                    • brooks85
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-05-09
                      • 44709

                      #45
                      The shots that finished him were illegal without a doubt, right in front of the ref too. Thankfully for me the ref didn't do anything.
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                      • kmdubya
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 06-04-11
                        • 405

                        #46
                        Originally posted by brooks85
                        The shots that finished him were illegal without a doubt, right in front of the ref too. Thankfully for me the ref didn't do anything.
                        I think the refs have a bit of discretion on shots to the back of the head. Intentional ones either get points taken off or DQ. But ones that happen from the fighter turning his head in between a flurry of punches will sometimes not get called if the dominante fighter doesn't keep on doing it.

                        Rewatching it, I don't think the back of the head shots put him out. Belfort snuck in some shots under his arm right to the chin.
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                        • bjpenn85
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-17-11
                          • 5059

                          #47
                          you are always off wrecked. This is what i try to tell youre wise ass all the time. I won big going on gustaffson, belfort and rashad. what? you douche
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                          • sirchadwick1
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-02-10
                            • 1375

                            #48
                            Wrecked and Hoff, it happens to all of us.... can't get all the dog calls right. The fight went down exactly how I pictured it (taking away the shots to the back of the head). Sexyama needs to drop down regardless b/c he was getting nowhere at MW.
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                            • GunShard
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-05-10
                              • 10028

                              #49
                              Akiyama needs to drop to welterweight.

                              Akiyama never had any KO power.

                              I had Belfort winning not only because Akiyama seems to stuggle to win a fight in the octagon but what Chael Sonnen said about that Japanese circuit, they are not good fighters.
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                              • jacktheknife
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-25-10
                                • 1217

                                #50
                                Originally posted by GunShard
                                Akiyama needs to drop to welterweight.
                                Akiyama needs to get dropped from the UFC.
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                                • Wrecked
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 05-31-11
                                  • 887

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                  you are always off wrecked. This is what i try to tell youre wise ass all the time. I won big going on gustaffson, belfort and rashad. what? you douche
                                  Always off? Wow.
                                  Okay for 1 I said I was going to bet on Hamill because you were on Gustaffson, and your grammar disgusts me, so I was trolling you, and calling you a dumbass.
                                  For 2, I was off on a dog that I was sure in, sorry bro, I'm not god.
                                  For 3 I said Ortiz had some value at +330 I was never on him.
                                  Look at my plays:
                                  Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.

                                  Add up all of those plays individually and I'm 4-1.
                                  Idiot.
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                                  • hels
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 04-12-09
                                    • 8767

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by jacktheknife
                                    Akiyama needs to get dropped from the UFC.
                                    he will stay in for a while just to continue pleasing the japanese market. there's a lot of money to be made in japan from televising the events there and they back their fighters like they're kings.
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                                    • jacktheknife
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-25-10
                                      • 1217

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by hels
                                      he will stay in for a while just to continue pleasing the japanese market. there's a lot of money to be made in japan from televising the events there and they back their fighters like they're kings.
                                      Hard to say if that keeps when they're getting their asses handed to them with regularity. You might justify saying they do by the fact that the Japanese MMA market still exists. The fact that it's barely sustained might say otherwise.
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                                      • Wrecked
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 05-31-11
                                        • 887

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by jacktheknife
                                        Hard to say if that keeps when they're getting their asses handed to them with regularity. You might justify saying they do by the fact that the Japanese MMA market still exists. The fact that it's barely sustained might say otherwise.
                                        I don't see them cutting a fighter who has gotten fight of the night 3 times.
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                                        • Kaladarus
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-11-09
                                          • 1876

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Wrecked
                                          I don't see them cutting a fighter who has gotten fight of the night 3 times.
                                          They cut Keith Jardine on a Majority decision loss to Matt Hammil that was fight of the night and he had a fight of the night 3 fights before that. I don't think this plays much of a factor for the UFC. If they want Sexyama they might cut him and re-sign him for less money. Keith Jardine will probably end up back in the UFC, but for a fraction of what they were paying him before. Realistically, he will get cut. After about 1 quick win to a random guy in another organization they will re-sign him if he is valuable to them for the Japanese market.
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                                          • jacktheknife
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-25-10
                                            • 1217

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Wrecked
                                            I don't see them cutting a fighter who has gotten fight of the night 3 times.
                                            You make Marcus Davis a saaad panda.
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                                            • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-25-08
                                              • 7237

                                              #57
                                              they won't cut him, they have an event in Japan on February 26 2012. Okami, Omigawa, and Gomi are really the only other fighters from Japan on the UFC roster
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                                              • spargament
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-22-09
                                                • 1739

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                                Wrecked and Hoff, it happens to all of us.... can't get all the dog calls right. The fight went down exactly how I pictured it (taking away the shots to the back of the head). Sexyama needs to drop down regardless b/c he was getting nowhere at MW.
                                                A) Anyone notice that since his return to the UFC, both of Vitor's wins involved him hitting someone at very questionable angles near or on the back of the head (the blow to Franklin IMO was much more significant to the outcome of that fight than the shots to Akiyama were, but still..)? He couldn't get those hands on Anderson (not like anyone really can), and I'm not suggesting that he's consistently doing this for an intentional reason, but it's interesting nonetheless.

                                                B) I respect your opinion on Sexy dropping to WW, and I felt similarly about that issue for quite some time, probably since after the Belcher win, but the more I see of him, I'm not entirely convinced that it's really gonna do him any good...Chad do you see him really making any significant impact at 170 (the home of a bunch of REALLY good fighters that will never beat GSP)? Almost every fight if not LITERALLY every fight he'll be getting at WW will in my opinion be incredibly tough, and I can't see it sparking a career turnaround...If I was him I'd strongly consider DREAM at this point (assuming the UFC doesn't make a decision for him by cutting him), he'll still make enough in endorsement money, will still be wildly popular, and will stand a better chance there...
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                                                • Wrecked
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 05-31-11
                                                  • 887

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Kaladarus

                                                  They cut Keith Jardine on a Majority decision loss to Matt Hammil that was fight of the night and he had a fight of the night 3 fights before that. I don't think this plays much of a factor for the UFC. If they want Sexyama they might cut him and re-sign him for less money. Keith Jardine will probably end up back in the UFC, but for a fraction of what they were paying him before. Realistically, he will get cut. After about 1 quick win to a random guy in another organization they will re-sign him if he is valuable to them for the Japanese market.
                                                  Originally posted by jacktheknife

                                                  You make Marcus Davis a saaad panda.
                                                  Oh excuse me. They won't cut a fighter whom out of 4 fights in the UFC, has obtained Fight of the Night 3 times.
                                                  Last edited by Wrecked; 08-08-11, 12:35 AM.
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                                                  • Squareguy
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-30-10
                                                    • 481

                                                    #60
                                                    If only he had Steven Segal show him the front kick...it may have been a different night.
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                                                    • spargament
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-22-09
                                                      • 1739

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Squareguy
                                                      If only he had Steven Segal show him the front kick...it may have been a different night.
                                                      I swear when I heard both Machida and Silva attribute their ridiculous finishes in their most recent fights to Steven Seagal, I had to try so hard to keep myself from bursting into uncontrollable, hysterical laughter. I just remember hearing that statement, and being entirely taken aback.

                                                      there has to be some sort of drinking game established involving taking shots of Everclear (or something else about 170 proof or higher) every time Steven is brought up in post-fight interviews by fighters that won.
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                                                      • Vaughany
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                        • 45563

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Wrecked
                                                        Oh excuse me. They won't cut a fighter whom out of 4 fights in the UFC, has obtained Fight of the Night 3 times.
                                                        Yeah Dana and Lorenzo love him, it will be a "Go down to 170 or your out" option and he will take it.
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                                                        • Wrecked
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 05-31-11
                                                          • 887

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Vaughany

                                                          Yeah Dana and Lorenzo love him, it will be a "Go down to 170 or your out" option and he will take it.
                                                          I hope so, because he really has potential, but he can't compete with these larger fighters.
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                                                          • Vaughany
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 03-07-10
                                                            • 45563

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Wrecked
                                                            I hope so, because he really has potential, but he can't compete with these larger fighters.
                                                            He also has no footwork or head movement tho which is always going to be an issue
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                                                            • Wrecked
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 05-31-11
                                                              • 887

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Vaughany

                                                              He also has no footwork or head movement tho which is always going to be an issue
                                                              Yeah, Japanese fighters usually lack in these areas for some reason?
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Wrecked
                                                                Yeah, Japanese fighters usually lack in these areas for some reason?
                                                                I guess perhaps a combination of the lack of pure boxing coaching and boxing tradition in the country, and their kamikaze/samurai mentality
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                                                                • Wrecked
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 05-31-11
                                                                  • 887

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany

                                                                  I guess perhaps a combination of the lack of pure boxing coaching and boxing tradition in the country, and their kamikaze/samurai mentality
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                                                                  • NunyaBidness
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-26-09
                                                                    • 9345

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                    I guess perhaps a combination of the lack of pure boxing coaching and boxing tradition in the country, and their kamikaze/samurai mentality
                                                                    There are more top ranked boxers (in the lighter weight classes) from Japan than the US or UK, probably combined.
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                                                                    • koscheckbaby
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                                                                      • 04-05-10
                                                                      • 1314

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Seriously guys, Bisping is NOT THAT GOOD and he picked Akiyama the **** apart. It's not just me drinking haterade on Bisping. The guy is just not that good. Belfort showed Bisping how you deal with someone that isn't on your level striking wise.
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                        There are more top ranked boxers (in the lighter weight classes) from Japan than the US or UK, probably combined.
                                                                        Yeah true - Uchiyama, Ao, Kameda, and Ioka are all high-level but then there aren't many dudes under 130lbs in the UK or US so it's not that surprising! Mexico, South American countries and Asia dominate the lighter weight classes
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