UFC 129: St Piere vs Shields

[Landscaper]

It's you're not your.

There is a difference between "you're a dumbass" and "your opinions are shite."

Wow u tell em

Now go fck yourself douchbag

[PunisherIND]

5dimes has a line for jake ellenberger vs sean pierson

ellenberger opened at -320 and seems to have "corrected" to -145.

pierson opened at +240 and "corrected" to +105.

i bet 3 units on ellenberger at -145. hoping to arb.

EDIT: ellenberger jumped back to -270 and pierson to +190. i wonder if 5dimes is going to cancel my wager on ellenberger at -145???

[Educ8d Degener8]

5dimes has a line for jake ellenberger vs sean pierson

ellenberger opened at -320 and seems to have "corrected" to -145.

pierson opened at +240 and "corrected" to +105.

i bet 3 units on ellenberger at -145. hoping to arb.

EDIT: ellenberger jumped back to -270 and pierson to +190. i wonder if 5dimes is going to cancel my wager on ellenberger at -145???

I would hope not, he's at -210 at the moment; his line is just settling into it's "trading range"... had he opened as the dog money, then yeah, they'd void your wager. Nice getting that opening line.

I'm considering hammering -210. But I don't have adequate knowledge on Pierson to pull the trigger.

Jake looked mediocre against Rocha, but it's because Rocha's unearthly ground game had Jake shook a bit. He couldn't implement his wrestling confidently.

What you guys got on Pierson? (He's got the homefield advantage, that much is all i got)

[Vaughany]

I would hope not, he's at -210 at the moment; his line is just settling into it's "trading range"... had he opened as the dog money, then yeah, they'd void your wager. Nice getting that opening line.

I'm considering hammering -210. But I don't have adequate knowledge on Pierson to pull the trigger.

Jake looked mediocre against Rocha, but it's because Rocha's unearthly ground game had Jake shook a bit. He couldn't implement his wrestling confidently.

What you guys got on Pierson? (He's got the homefield advantage, that much is all i got)

You're right, they'd only void it if u'd got Ellenberger at plus something..i.e a total line reversal.

With regards to Pierson, IMO he will be the best wrestler that Ellenberger has ever faced, last time Ellenberger faced a decent wrestler was Story who he lost to. Pierson also has a decent jab which might work well against Ellenberger who's stand up is still pretty basic IMO as he showed against Rocha where he just looked for the one shot KO the whole time. He's a purple belt in BJJ so his overall grappling might be better than Ellenberger...he's had a solid camp with GSP and Zahabi as well. I'd consider a play on Pierson if it goes back to +200 or better as I expect it will...difficult to imagine Ellenberger being finished tho so a fight to go distance prop will probly be my play...both dudes are tough as hell.

[Educ8d Degener8]

Yeah, I'm gonna stay away from an Ellenberger play at this point at current odds... seems too easy (trap-ish). I read the Pierson vs Riddle play by play and it did sound like Pierson utilized his jab quite well. (kinda like that distance prop -- will keep an eye out for that).

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Riddle threw so many punches and landed few even on a gasses Pierson, Ellenburgers takedowns are relentless.

[xelance]

Mixed martial arts legend Randy Couture will retire from active competition after his bout with Lyoto Machida at UFC 129, Sky Sports reported Wednesday.




The 47-year-old, who made his mixed martial arts debut in 1997, will fight for the last time in front of 55,000 fans at the Rogers Centre in Toronto on April 30.
Couture is a three-time heavyweight champion in UFC and has also held the light-heavyweight title twice.
He has faced off against some of the biggest names in MMA history, including Chuck Liddell (three times), Vitor Belfort (three times), Tito Ortiz, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Brock Lesnar, Mark Coleman and Pedro Rizzo (twice).
"I want to go out on my terms and decide when enough is enough," he said Tuesday.

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/Mixed-martial-arts-legend-Randy-Couture-to-retire-after-bout-with-Lyoto-Machida-at-UFC-129-042011/?GT1=39002

[GunShard]

If that's true, hopefully Couture can win on his final fight.

[The HOFF]

Missed the openers but I still really like Rory Macdonald at -105 right now and Jason Brilz at -120.

[Vaughany]

All 5 pre-lims will be show in Facebook!

[GoldRush7]

The closer we get to this fight, the more and more I am leaning towards jake shields

[Ladle]

All 5 pre-lims will be show in Facebook!

That is AWESOME. Really wanted to see Jabouin/Garza and I'm very interested in seeing Makdessi fight again.

[The Bet Master]

If that's true, hopefully Couture can win on his final fight.

It's worth a $50 bet

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

trying to re-watch some fights looks like every site that posted past fight are no longer showing them. mmatko, mma-core, mixedmartialartvideos, all not showing older fight. anyone have a site that still is?

[bigjah15]

The closer we get to this fight, the more and more I am leaning towards jake shields

got 2 parlays..
henderson,randy shields.
henderson randy gsp.

2 fight parlay with 3 fight parlay payout risky but i like it!

[syn^]

BHendo is a steal at -125. Gsp, aldo, machida, hendo parlay 1 to win 2.6 any reason why I shouldn't go big on this parlay? All look like locks to me... would like machida at lower odds but I don't think randy brings anything to the table that can hurt machida. Machida has very underrated takedowns/takedown defense. Machida has the power to ko him or he could get top control on the ground and get a choke like he did against sokoudjou. Very tough spot for Randy here.

[Vaughany]

BHendo is a steal at -125. Gsp, aldo, machida, hendo parlay 1 to win 2.6 any reason why I shouldn't go big on this parlay? All look like locks to me... would like machida at lower odds but I don't think randy brings anything to the table that can hurt machida. Machida has very underrated takedowns/takedown defense. Machida has the power to ko him or he could get top control on the ground and get a choke like he did against sokoudjou. Very tough spot for Randy here.

Why do u think Bendo is a lock?! Have u seen the Jim Miller fight?

[Ladle]

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/John-Danaher-on-UFC-129s-GSP-Shields-Bout-2968

I think I could listen to Danaher talk all day.

[illmatick]

hehe

"Absolutely, absolutely (he can be submitted). Maybe not with armlocks but definitely with chokes. I just don't think people are choking him the right way. He's a very tough guy to choke. He's really resilient, but at the same time, I don't think people are doing guillotines or the rear-naked chokes right."

Ginger Balls.

[illmatick]

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent...elds-Bout-2968

I think I could listen to Danaher talk all day.

agree, good interview. anyone have access to Danaher's competition record?

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Why do u think Bendo is a lock?! Have u seen the Jim Miller fight?

Yea i had Miller in that fight and got lucky because i though Bocek won rounds 2 and 3 for the decision. Pride rules Bocek wins on the 2nd round alone. If they gave him that decision he's on a 5 fight win streak, and improved alot since being worked over by Danzig

[jin2daj]

got 2 parlays..
henderson,randy shields.
henderson randy gsp.

2 fight parlay with 3 fight parlay payout risky but i like it!

you realize if you just had all that money on henderson randy 2 fight parlay you would come out ahead?


the way you currently set it up means you are guaranteed to have less because you lose to casino juice.

[syn^]

Why do u think Bendo is a lock?! Have u seen the Jim Miller fight?

Well in that Miller fight Bocek seemed to start fading in the third and miller failed to pressure him really since he also seemed fatigued. Bendo has done the 5 rounders and I don't ever remember him being gassed and he can bring the fight in those later rounds. Also bendo is going to be a lot harder to take down... if anything i see bendo putting bocek on his back and getting in some GnP. His standup is superior and more versatile compared to boceks and his resiliancy really stands out. When he fought roller, he was in trouble big time getting dropped with big punches and put in a tight guillotine.... gutted it out and a minute later put roller down and out with nice combo punches. Bendo also has good subs as well. He has to many ways to win this fight. Bocek is more predictable.

[illmatick]

Bendo also has good subs as well.

come on man, Bendo isn't subbing Bocek

I actually like the progression of Bocek's stand-up, Still isn't great but it's serviceable (which is about where i put Bendo's stand-up)

was surprised to see that he actually rocked frankie edgar in their fight.

[syn^]

come on man, Bendo isn't subbing Bocek

I actually like the progression of Bocek's stand-up, Still isn't great but it's serviceable (which is about where i put Bendo's stand-up)

was surprised to see that he actually rocked frankie edgar in their fight.

You might eat those words. I wouldn't put it past Bendo to get a guillotine in when Bocek is shooting for the takedown. Maybe in the third when Bocek is gassed. And what has Bocek done to prove hes got as good stand up as Bendo? He's got decent strong jabs but doesn't mix things up. Bendo has good leg kicks and follows up with good combination punches.

[illmatick]

beepo

[flyingillini]

I am betting heavy on Jake. He is on a mission and he will not get beat Saturday.

[Vaughany]

[sirchadwick1]

Hahaha.... that video is gold. Love the KO comments. It's awesome that Chuck has a great sense of humor.

[illmatick]

" aint happening Tito, no one likes you" lol

[bjpenn85]

bendo may have better condition, but how much do you think this aspect plays a role in this fight? More than boceks superior grappling?

Bocek really took a time out after the danzig fight, and has since that fight trained with a lot of specialist in the standup department. Sometimes fighters says stuff like, i have had the best training camp ever, or i am a new fighter and all that crap, but bocek is really looking better after what he said. He is a very intelligent guy from what i have heard on radioshows, very analytical, and reflective.

In the standup i think its quite even, i dont think bendo is all that in the standup really. But bocek got good takedown, and superb bjj, and has even dominated jim miller, which is an amazing fighter for 11 or 12 minutes of that fight. I think its more logical to look at what a fighter does, than to isolate a fighters capabilities. Dont get me wrong, bendo is good, but i think bocek is better from what they have achieved. May be ******* razor close though..but the advantage is in boceks favour in my opinion.

[Educ8d Degener8]

5dimes is advertising live-in-round wagering for every fight for this event... fyi homeboys.

[Ladle]

5dimes is advertising live-in-round wagering for every fight for this event... fyi homeboys.

I noticed that too. Might have to keep my laptop nearby on Saturday evening. Could be lucrative.

[Educ8d Degener8]

I noticed that too. Might have to keep my laptop nearby on Saturday evening. Could be lucrative.

I'll be on my freakin' blackberry which i always have trouble getting into 5dimes with... i heard going to 5dimes.tv is better than going to 5dimes.com on blackberries though, so will try that.

[The Bet Master]

Just a heads up Bookmaker always has live in fight wagering. Can be real easy to hedge your bet.