new ufc welterweight champ 4-30-11

[xelance]

shields by KO?! AHAHAHAHAHA that comment is just as funny as that creepy interviewer..

[xelance]

and BOOM, you won your diaz inside the distance bet and decided to quote your own prediction because you actually got it right pathetic. Many other people, including me, were on diaz inside the distance..guess we should all start quoting our plays so everyone knows we are Nostradamus-like! Post your bet on Shields so we can all laugh at you when GSP runs through him

[phillybadboy]

okay, but Shields knocks out gsp seruosly

[snake11eyes]

and BOOM, you won your diaz inside the distance bet and decided to quote your own prediction because you actually got it right pathetic. Many other people, including me, were on diaz inside the distance..guess we should all start quoting our plays so everyone knows we are Nostradamus-like! Post your bet on Shields so we can all laugh at you when GSP runs through him

and
LOL @ that weirdo saying GSP not being great at anything.

[xelance]

so...you are saying Shields who has never knocked out any fighter in over 10 years of fighting, 31 fights, and hasnt TKOd anybody in over 3 years (back to the EliteXC days) is going to KO GSP who has lost once by TKO (4 years ago) in 23 fights? You are just pure comedy. I can see how you can take Shields with those great dog odds, but to say he will win via KO is just idiotic. The only way Shields wins is on the ground, he cant trade punches worth shit.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

and BOOM, you won your diaz inside the distance bet and decided to quote your own prediction because you actually got it right pathetic. Many other people, including me, were on diaz inside the distance..guess we should all start quoting our plays so everyone knows we are Nostradamus-like! Post your bet on Shields so we can all laugh at you when GSP runs through him

lol, i don't even think he bet Diaz inside the distance

"diaz wins inside the distance, but no play because it's a fave"
Post #141

http://forum.sbrforum.com/boxing-mma-ufc-betting/967334-strikeforce-diaz-vs-daley-april-09-2011-a-p5.html

[phillybadboy]

okay, when shields wins by ko or tko you guys know who said it first

[xelance]

okay, when shields wins by ko or tko you guys know who said it first

ahhhh so now its ko OR tko? Okay, when shields wins by ko or tko or submission or decision, you guys know who said it first...that is coming next! Either way, you will be wrong

[LearningTree]

I think he'll either impress the hell out of everyone or get completely obliterated. I'm not sure which one. But I don't think there's any middle ground in this fight.

[phillybadboy]

anthony crolla + money is solid for sat 4-16-11

[phillybadboy]

ben henderson solid 4-30-11

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

anthony crolla + money is solid for sat 4-16-11

anthony crolla + money is solid for sat 4-16-11

ben henderson solid 4-30-11

I don't see any anthony crolla fight fight listed, and Henderson is -130 fav

you pick underdogs to win in the long term, give us some underdog picks besides the Shields over GSP

[sportsfanatic]

wonder how gsp's takedown defense is. i know he's faced wrestlers before but shields is probably the best grappler he's faced yet.

[Ladle]

wonder how gsp's takedown defense is. i know he's faced wrestlers before but shields is probably the best grappler he's faced yet.

He's the best ground grappler that GSP has ever faced, but let's not act like Shields' wrestling is something special. He's excellent at bringing guys down once he gets deep position on a leg, but he completely lacks an explosive first step. More importantly, most of his set-ups are very prosaic and plodding; he tends to just flounder with his hands coming forward until he grabs hold of his opponent.

[99Boxster]

If Shields/GSP is not a good match up in the Welter weight, what do people think will be a more exciting matchup to watch? I couldn't really think of one but maybe someone else will...

This is the matchup I want to see. I'd also like to see GSP at welterweight vs: Nick Diaz, Carlos Condit, Ben Askren, and Nate Marquardt.

If he moves up, I'd like to see GSP at middleweight vs: Anderson Silva, Chael Sonen, Yushin Okami, Jacare Souza, and Hector Lombard.

[Pin2Win]

I wouldn't mind seeing the match up Diaz (diaz would lose but how did Diaz do against Shields?) Condit wouldn't match up well at all, Ben Askren raised my eyebrows! that would be a good fight to watch because he can keep anyone on the ground... Nate Marquardt would be a good one too!

[phillybadboy]

anthony crolla + money is solid for sat 4-16-11

crolla fight off , opponenet hurt old injury

[RaiderNation MMA]

jus cant see any way of jake winning

[phillybadboy]

hopkins+money may 21-11 solid

[Chairib]

This is the matchup I want to see. I'd also like to see GSP at welterweight vs: Nick Diaz, Carlos Condit, Ben Askren, and Nate Marquardt.

If he moves up, I'd like to see GSP at middleweight vs: Anderson Silva, Chael Sonen, Yushin Okami, Jacare Souza, and Hector Lombard.

I'd like to see GSP and Askren fight one day. But Askren's striking still needs a lot of work. GSP would beat the rest of those guys you mentioned at 170.

[omalley21]

Askren wouldnt need striking, he would take him down the whole fight.

[99Boxster]

GSP should beat all these guys except Anderson Silva...but I'd still like to see them

[Pin2Win]

If Askren gets into the UFC a fight I would want to see rather then throwing him in against GSP (Brutal first fight) I would want to see a match up with Hendricks, both Stud wrestlers in college... I have seen them both compete at the National tournement in college, to me that would be a great test on their grappling

[PunisherIND]

I think he'll either impress the hell out of everyone or get completely obliterated. I'm not sure which one. But I don't think there's any middle ground in this fight.

one thing's for sure, gsp will not be imprez with his per-form-anz.

[Vaughany]

[snake11eyes]

Nice, but I would have like to see him do one of those iron crosses or whatever they call that.

[rocky mattioli]

Go watch the Shields/Okami fight and then honestly say that was a good decision by the judges. I try not be someone who goes screaming bad decision, or fix, every time I don't agree with the judges opinion but I genuinely feel that Okami won that fight.

i hear you...and i basically agree....but okami is a huge 185 pounder........respectfully,not really a great analogy.imo... the fact that shields,an amazingly one-dimensional grappler kept it somewhat close is laudable...it`s amazing that given his skillset he can still beat bigger guys...

isn`t okami getting ready to fight anderson silva?....the guy is a very bad man... not entirely sure how gsp would do vs henderson and okami...

that said,i tend to agree that gsp will dictate where this fight goes...which imo,will be on their feet until shields starts to slow down....the mma setting makes gsp`s grappling comparable to shields because of all the other facets of gsp`s game shields has to consider......but in a strictly grappling format,shields would be the favorite,i`d wager...he`s bigger...and just a better grappler(based on his grappling history).....

you don`t run off a win streak like shields has(without any stand-up to speak of)without having incredible wrestling chops....

but given the venue...shields` one dimensional game and the 5 round distance,this is a very tough road to hoe in spite of being the better grappler...which based on their resumes(in and out of mma)i think he clearly is....

gsp is very smart....i doubt that gsp lets this hit the ground until he`s softened shields up with stand-up,ala the fitch fight....he`ll let shields tire going for takedowns and then he`ll wear him out(as someone mentioned previously..it may have been chairb)....

an early sub seems to be shields best shot....in a long fight,gsp just appears to have too many weapons...and too much cardio...

just one man`s opinion... i hope they grapple early while they`re fresh......i`m sure it would be amazing stuff...

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

GSP really changes up the training

[phillybadboy]

john simpson+135 solid 4-27-11

[imadegen]

GSP's only real weakness is his chin, which is irrelevant against shields.

I agree. I don't think shields would win but then again I wouldn't touch this bet at gsp at -500.

[sportsfanatic]

wow... i just remembered that marquardt is now a welterweight. this should be interesting. though johnson is just like a mw. lol.

[Camdemonium]

wonder how gsp's takedown defense is. i know he's faced wrestlers before but shields is probably the best grappler he's faced yet.

Better than Serra, BJ Penn or Hughes?

Let's not get fooled by the UFC hype train. This is going to be GSP by murder. If you can't finish Kampmann on the ground. No way you can stop GSP. And the comments of Shields by KO are ludicrous.

[NunyaBidness]

Better than Serra, BJ Penn or Hughes?

Let's not get fooled by the UFC hype train. This is going to be GSP by murder. If you can't finish Kampmann on the ground. No way you can stop GSP. And the comments of Shields by KO are ludicrous.

Strange statement being that Kampmann has never been subbed and GSP has.

[Camdemonium]

Strange statement being that Kampmann has never been subbed and GSP has.

Three questions:
Do you think that Shields has better BJJ than Serra or Penn? Do you think Kampmann (or Shields for that matter) has fought as tough of guys as GSP? Did you watch Shields-Kampmann?

That was the lamest win for a top contender that I've seen in a long time (except for maybe Leites-Marquardt). I've stated several times that I thought Kampman won. But hey if you think Shields will submit GSP that's cool. I just strongly disagree. I think GSP has better cardio, striking, wrestling, experience and training camp. I think that GSP is going to break Shields' face, and that we are going to see after 3 min in round 1 exactly what is going to happen for the next 22 min, essentially GSP dominating Shields.

[sportsfanatic]

Better than Serra, BJ Penn or Hughes?

Let's not get fooled by the UFC hype train. This is going to be GSP by murder. If you can't finish Kampmann on the ground. No way you can stop GSP. And the comments of Shields by KO are ludicrous.

yes. shields has out-grappled okami and henderson and won. middleweights with decent wrestling. his grappling is that good because his stand up is crap. then again gsp is the best ww wrestler.