Kampmann v. Sanchez

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  • keyboarding
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-30-09
    • 6817

    #141
    At UFC 115, judge Lance Gibson gave scored a 10-10 round in the Wilks/Sobotta fight.
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    • ttrace35
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-30-10
      • 10828

      #142
      Originally posted by MadTiger
      10-10 rounds happen, but rarely. 10-point must simply means someone has to get a 10. The other fighter can get a 10 also.
      This is a very flawed system. This point system is for a 10 or 12 boxing match. With just 3 rounds, its not enough time to judge a close fight. MMA needs its own point system. In Pride, the judging was different, because the fight was scored as a whole. Not round by round.
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      • BIGDAY
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 02-17-10
        • 48245

        #143
        I say they just go back to the early UFC days. I don't even think they had rounds. It was either tap out, throw in the towel from the side, or get knocked the FUKKKK out!!
        Those were the days of absolute winners.
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        • NunyaBidness
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-26-09
          • 9345

          #144
          Originally posted by BIGDAY
          I say they just go back to the early UFC days. I don't even think they had rounds. It was either tap out, throw in the towel from the side, or get knocked the FUKKKK out!!
          Those were the days of absolute winners.
          And the days of absolutely boring snoozefest 30 minute layathons.
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          • stefan084
            SBR MVP
            • 07-21-09
            • 1490

            #145
            Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
            I plan to, there is a lot to look at from that fight. Was really entertaining for one thing, well worth a second, third look imo. Diego reminds me a lot like Jon Fitch, guys with no athletic ability what so ever, but overachieve in mma on heart and desire alone. Many a lesser willed fighter would have found a way out of that fight last night.

            I find it slightly odd to see people who usually come down on the side of slamming timidity in the ring/ cage are now praising Kampmann for his track meet out there yesterday. I'm wondering where the bias comes from, is it because people 100% prefer point fighting if it is on the feet, if they just can't stand Diego, or a little of both. All we hear about is raging once again about takedowns, which I don't think factored in the fight at all, and how the technical fighter should have been rewarded. Funny to me how the technical wrestler like say in a typical Fitch fight doesn't get that same treatment.

            Funny because I don't think of them as the same, while the wrestler might be controlling the fight in slow grind it out way, at least he is engaging the opponent. If the opponent has the tools to sweep, submit, or strike during the take down attempt then it is right there for the taking. Awfully tough to do anything to an opponent pulling a Starnes.
            I have no bias toward Diego, in fact he's one of my favs but aggression alone should not win you the fight.Wrestlers are rewarded heavily for a takedown but what about the guy that stuffs 14/15 takedown attempts? Does that not require any skill? Also just because Kampmann was moving backward and counter striking doesn't mean he wasn't winning the fight.There needs to be a consensus as to what 1 takedowns are worth, 2 takedown defense is worth 3 strikes landed vs power strikes landed 4 what aggression is worth--so that fighters know exactly what will get them the win
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            • Poppa Catfish
              SBR MVP
              • 09-22-10
              • 3352

              #146
              Originally posted by stefan084
              I have no bias toward Diego, in fact he's one of my favs but aggression alone should not win you the fight.Wrestlers are rewarded heavily for a takedown but what about the guy that stuffs 14/15 takedown attempts? Does that not require any skill? Also just because Kampmann was moving backward and counter striking doesn't mean he wasn't winning the fight.There needs to be a consensus as to what 1 takedowns are worth, 2 takedown defense is worth 3 strikes landed vs power strikes landed 4 what aggression is worth--so that fighters know exactly what will get them the win
              A little transparency in the scoring would go a long way, they should post the score cards in between rounds and judges should explain what they are scoring, maybe give them a segment on Inside MMA. The way it is done now is just not satisfactory.
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              • keyboarding
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-30-09
                • 6817

                #147
                Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                A little transparency in the scoring would go a long way, they should post the score cards in between rounds and judges should explain what they are scoring, maybe give them a segment on Inside MMA. The way it is done now is just not satisfactory.
                Transparency in how a sport is judged/refereed? It'll never happen. How will they rig fights if people know what to expect?
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                • Thor4140
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-09-08
                  • 22296

                  #148
                  Originally posted by zipos
                  We do without absolutely wrong automatically know which factor a will of steel instinctively prove
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                  • Beelzebubzy
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 06-06-11
                    • 6995

                    #149
                    Originally posted by zipos
                    We do without absolutely wrong automatically know which factor a will of steel instinctively prove
                    you also posted on a sleep apnea forum?
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                    • DSSCA
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 03-07-12
                      • 454

                      #150
                      Wtf is this??
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                      • Noleafclover
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-06-13
                        • 1349

                        #151
                        Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
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                        • The iron sheik
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-17-13
                          • 1105

                          #152
                          even the spambot was so informed he didn't want to talk about how canchez stole the night
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #153
                            He makes a valid point tho to be fair
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                            • The iron sheik
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-17-13
                              • 1105

                              #154
                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                              He makes a valid point tho to be fair
                              True.

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                              • DSSCA
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 03-07-12
                                • 454

                                #155
                                Originally posted by MadTiger
                                10-10 rounds happen, but rarely. 10-point must simply means someone has to get a 10. The other fighter can get a 10 also.
                                I literally want you to die. You are a fuking idiot!!!!!!! You are most likely not an active poster anymore, but in the off chance you ever see this... Seriously, and I am not joking, smash your spine into the concrete. Hard
                                as fuk too.
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                                • Vaughany
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 03-07-10
                                  • 45563

                                  #156
                                  lol
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                                  • Educ8d Degener8
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-12-10
                                    • 3177

                                    #157
                                    Dssca unleashing some pent up raaaaaaage!
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