UFC 131 JDS vs Lesnar 6/11

Jordan23 · 03-16-11, 01:34 AM

Shogun is a bad bad bad man!

Pin2Win · 03-16-11, 08:14 AM

This should be a great card! I'm excited to see the coaching techniques of Brock and Jounior, I wonder if brock will bring Coach Morgan with him...

Vaughany · 03-17-11, 01:35 PM

Condit vs Stungun added

Vaughany · 04-20-11, 09:49 AM

Cerrone out at -160, missed it and now at -190.

EDIT.... Wow now at -260 already...should of taken the -190 perhaps.

Ladle · 04-20-11, 10:35 AM

I'm waiting to see if the odds on Brilz improve.

When do you think the prelim lines will be released, V? One week from now?

Vaughany · 04-20-11, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by Ladle

I'm waiting to see if the odds on Brilz improve.

When do you think the prelim lines will be released, V? One week from now?

Usually Bookmaker release on Tuesday afternoon but as we've seen recently 5dimes/Sportbet have been releasing lines before bookmaker so they may bring them out first, again should be Tuesday night but never know with them...they've already got Patrick/Roberts and Jensen/Mcdonald listed but without odds so they might be released before tuesday.

cheeese · 04-20-11, 10:28 PM

Do you think Brock will show improved striking defense?

Varker · 04-20-11, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by cheeese

Do you think Brock will show improved striking defense?

he has huge arms. they should show him how to cover up like overeem does.

The HOFF · 04-21-11, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by cheeese

Do you think Brock will show improved striking defense?

No. The more I try and break this fight down, the more I see Lesnar getting destroyed again. Even if he does improve his defense, I can see him eating a monster uppercut when he dives for a double leg.

Vaughany · 04-21-11, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by The HOFF

No. The more I try and break this fight down, the more I see Lesnar getting destroyed again. Even if he does improve his defense, I can see him eating a monster uppercut when he dives for a double leg.

Yeah great point, the upper-cuts that Dos Santos throws could be the key in this one...hardly any fighters use the uppercut enough in UFC, Dos Santos is one of the few who does it effectively.

omalley21 · 04-21-11, 09:17 AM

Im gonna bet way more then I should on JDS once the public money pours in on Brock. Hedged with Brock submission of the night.... or if I can get brock by decision at decent odds.

sirchadwick1 · 04-21-11, 09:22 AM

JDS all day long here. He may get taken down... but he's not just going to lay there and get pounded on. And when he's on his feet Brock will get destroyed. JDS with confidence. I'd absolutely love to see him sub Brock off his back, it would make my night.

omalley21 · 04-21-11, 11:56 AM

The thing that really makes me sure of JDS is that fact that he still hasn't got paid yet. He's hungry.

Brocks set for life. It's not the same. JDS wants it more.

Brock will basically quit once he gets in trouble. Im hoping JDS gets to +150 by fight time. Im optimistic lol.

sirchadwick1 · 04-21-11, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by omalley21

The thing that really makes me sure of JDS is that fact that he still hasn't got paid yet. He's hungry.

Brocks set for life. It's not the same. JDS wants it more.

Brock will basically quit once he gets in trouble. Im hoping JDS gets to +150 by fight time. Im optimistic lol.

Spot on dude. Junior is hungry and has been waiting for this opportunity like no other. The same way Bones was just waiting... I also feel that Brock still has the WWE on the back of his mind and that will be his fallback should he lose to JDS. Easier money, less face punishment.

The HOFF · 04-21-11, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by omalley21

Im gonna bet way more then I should on JDS once the public money pours in on Brock. Hedged with Brock submission of the night.... or if I can get brock by decision at decent odds.

The only way I see Brock winning is by decision. When you really break it down, I dont think he has much finishing power. He was on top of Herring for 3 rounds. He clipped an 80 year old Couture behind the ear and outweighed him by 60 pounds that night. Mir was too comfortable on the ground in the second fight and let himself just get pummeled thinking he was good enough to sweep or sub. Carwin blew his load and couldn't move in the second round. JDS will not just lay on his back like Mir and his cardio won't fade like Carwin. Lesnar may be able to take him down, but he needs to hold him down for 3 rounds because JDS obviously is able to win it on the feet. I like JDS ITD and Lesnar by DEC.

omalley21 · 04-21-11, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

The only way I see Brock winning is by decision. When you really break it down, I dont think he has much finishing power. He was on top of Herring for 3 rounds. He clipped an 80 year old Couture behind the ear and outweighed him by 60 pounds that night. Mir was too comfortable on the ground in the second fight and let himself just get pummeled thinking he was good enough to sweep or sub. Carwin blew his load and couldn't move in the second round. JDS will not just lay on his back like Mir and his cardio won't fade like Carwin. Lesnar may be able to take him down, but he needs to hold him down for 3 rounds because JDS obviously is able to win it on the feet. I like JDS ITD and Lesnar by DEC.

I agree, no chance Lesnar tko's him. Slight chance he could arm triangle him though. But ya Lesnar by decision would be by far his most likely path to victory. I could see a controversial decision in this one, with brock getting dropped a few times but getting takedowns.

kiefynugs · 04-21-11, 06:52 PM

With Lesnar it really depends on how solid of a TD he gets. He got Cain down but not securely pinned so he wasn't able to do anything before Cain got up. It was never really a successful takedown in my eyes.

Seems to me that Lesnar's game is too obvious for JDS not to be fully prepared for it, but I don't know... Lesnar is a surprising guy.

jin2daj · 04-21-11, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by ttrace35

This is ridiculous. UFC 267. Live from mars.

at the current rate, UFC 267 is probably going to be 5 or 6 years from now.

just saying.

The HOFF · 05-04-11, 02:12 AM

An undisclosed injury has forced featherweight Rani Yahya out of a scheduled UFC 131 bout with Dustin Poirier.

In his place steps British fighter and UFC newcomer Jason Young, who's won four of his past five fights.

UFC officials today announced the change to the June 11 card.

The HOFF · 05-04-11, 02:14 AM

Date: Jun 11, 2011

Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Venue: Rogers Arena
Broadcast: Pay-per-view and Spike TV

MAIN CARD (PPV)

Junior Dos Santos vs. Brock Lesnar
Shane Carwin vs. Jon Olav Einemo
Donald Cerrone vs. Mac Danzig
Demian Maia vs. Mark Munoz
Kenny Florian vs. Diego Nunes

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)

Yves Edwards vs. Sam Stout
Dustin Poirier vs. Jason Young

PRELIMINARY CARD

Anthony Perosh vs. Krzysztof Soszynski
Darren Elkins vs. Michihiro Omigawa
Jesse Bongfeldt vs. Chris Weidman
Joey Beltran vs. Dave Herman

GunShard · 05-04-11, 02:51 AM

It's possible that JDS will beat Lesnar the same way Velasquez did to Lesnar.

rocky502 · 05-04-11, 08:47 AM

Gun,
That is what I was thinking. Just like Cain and and the first round of Carwin, I see Brock getting tagged by a much better striker, Brock turtling and JDS finishing him like Cain did. Brock needs to get him down ASAP and keep him there. I really want to see Cain vs. JDS.

pgabb · 05-04-11, 03:18 PM

i hope JDS kicks lesnars ass!!!!!

clarkd32 · 05-04-11, 08:56 PM

JDS all day... and maybe the fight to end in the 1st round prop as well.

brumbies · 05-10-11, 04:47 AM

brock +115 at pinn currently

first time he's a dog?

rocky mattioli · 05-10-11, 06:49 AM

dos santos is a very big man...he`s 6`4" and thick........i think brock might have trouble manhandling him...and will pay a price every time he tries....

in a one round fight i think brock is very live....but in a 3 round fight,with dos santos spending an entire training camp stuffing takedowns and getting up off his back,i`m taking jds....

i thought that dos santos showed some cardio vs the fireplug(who has a chin of iron)....anybody think that lesnar can take those shots?....i doubt that dos santos dies after 1 like carwin....

and i like the fact that lesnar is getting used to taking beatings....in his first beating(the 1st rd vs carwin)lesnar showed what many guys that have never been beaten down show...some resilience....

his second beatdown(vs velasquez),came a little easier....

dos santos still hasn`t taken that beatdown....

Kaladarus · 05-10-11, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by brumbies

brock +115 at pinn currently

first time he's a dog?

Yes, it's the first time, but all his fights have had him no more than a -200 favorite when the line was best.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 05-10-11, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by rocky mattioli

dos santos is a very big man...he`s 6`4" and thick........i think brock might have trouble manhandling him...and will pay a price every time he tries....

in a one round fight i think brock is very live....but in a 3 round fight,with dos santos spending an entire training camp stuffing takedowns and getting up off his back,i`m taking jds....

i thought that dos santos showed some cardio vs the fireplug(who has a chin of iron)....anybody think that lesnar can take those shots?....i doubt that dos santos dies after 1 like carwin

Brock does look smaller since his comeback, all he really has is when he manhandles guys like Mir/Herring. Can he take down JDS time after time before getting blasted, i doubt it.

The HOFF · 05-11-11, 03:00 PM

Krzysztof Soszynski has a new opponent for June's UFC 131 event.

Igor Pokrajac has replaced injured Anthony Perosh, UFC officials announced overnight.

Vaughany · 05-12-11, 04:12 PM

Lesnar is out with Diverticulitis...CARWIN steps in! Ther goes my Carwin by KO bet against Einemo!

THE_LOCKSMITH · 05-12-11, 04:25 PM

at least Carwin is a decent replacment. Feel sorry for Brock if he ends up having to get that colonoscopy bag.

The HOFF · 05-12-11, 06:38 PM

Bodog opening at JDS -260/Carwin +200 is pretty crazy. I thought JDS would be a small favorite.

PunisherIND · 05-12-11, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

Bodog opening at JDS -260/Carwin +200 is pretty crazy. I thought JDS would be a small favorite.

carwin down to +185

The HOFF · 05-13-11, 03:52 PM

UFC newcomer Jon Olav Einemo has received a new opponent for his octagon debut after his original opponent, Shane Carwin, was tapped to replace the recovering Brock Lesnar in a bout against Junior Dos Santos.

Einemo now meets fellow newcomer Dave Herman, and Herman's original opponent Joey Beltran will meet newcomer Aaron Rosa.

Ladle · 05-13-11, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

UFC newcomer Jon Olav Einemo has received a new opponent for his octagon debut after his original opponent, Shane Carwin, was tapped to replace the recovering Brock Lesnar in a bout against Junior Dos Santos.

Einemo now meets fellow newcomer Dave Herman, and Herman's original opponent Joey Beltran will meet newcomer Aaron Rosa.

Had a feeling they'd give him Herman for some reason. Much more interesting than the Beltran fight. Good luck picking a winner - Herman is a legit heavyweight and a great athlete, but he's also a bit of a loose cannon who's notorious for undermining his own potential.