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Im on Joshua too for the gold, Usyk, Berinchyk, Zou and Katie Taylor. GL V
Edit: Lomachenko too.Comment -
Pending Olympics plays (at least one of these two should hit):
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11:51pm 25-Jul-12 1:00pm 10-Aug-12 Future 2012 Summer Olympics - Boxing - To Win Gol.... -133 133.00 100.00 Pending Boxing
To Win Gold Medal - Lightweight - Men
Will Vasyl Lomachenko Win The Gold Medal?
Yes vs No06/07/2012 Single To Win Brazil Olympic Team @ 9/4
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Borroughs with ease. One of the most comfortable +EV wagers I've made in a while. Feels great.
Wrastlers rule.
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yeee buddy! Gutted because I could of gone to that today as mate had a spare ticket but couldnt get time off work as everybody already booked off. Cant wait to see Burrough's transition in to MMA in the future.
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so what are your big dog plays this weekend son!?!????
Saw your nice grab on lawrence (I def lean him and am thinking about playing him small at evens)...
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WTF they trying to be the new Hills or what!...
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Bones preparing for the H-Bomb...
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Hey man, didn't get a chance to watch the Burroughs final because I was in Hyde Park but it seems he wins. Cheers. Joshua looked slick too - I really felt that if he beat Dychko he wins. I thought Medvhidov would beat Cammerelle though - lost a pint bet to my clueless about boxing mate on that one and felt like a real tool. Anyway, I'm pretty ******* hammered and don't know that I'll be back on here till Sunday afternoon or so. If that's the case, I wish everyone luck with their MMA plays unless they oppose my own.Comment -
I posted this elsewhere in answer to a question regarding limitation/closures, particularly relevant to any UK book currently operating.
"Ok, i know i have said "i didn't even win" etc myself but that's just because i find it kind of cathartic to slag them off a bit.
In reality you are not restricted because of your current profit or loss you are restricted because your bets, all or some, show you have an edge and therefore will eventually make money. No matter how small that edge they will spot it and eventually take action.
Think about it from their perspective, they aren't just restricting you they are restricting idk hundreds of people? over the course of a years business. Now if you take a figure, say 200 people, give them an avg stake of £50 * 25 bets per week for a year and an avg edge/ROI of 2.5%.
A book accepting these bets means those 200 people would be taking 325K out of the kitty. A poultry £125 a month each.
I think you'd also agree that each of my hypothetical figures are low."
Big UK books in particular have essentially killed the art of bookmaking, They no longer rely on their over round (vig) to make money, They essentially just gamble now. A 5-10% cut of the prize pool is no longer good enough, they want as much of the pool as they can get. In order to do this they need to ensure that they are only "gambling" against losers, the more sharp bettors allowed into the prize pool the less of it the bookie can pocket for themselves.
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is there still value with Lentz at -350 with
1- Jap is old as hell
2 - Denver Air
3 - no clear way to win
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i blame them. its cheating. theyr pretty much eating horse protein as alistair overeem. Its as filthy and dishonest as all other forms of cheating. Its not like we cheat? we just win by using skills/information to our advantage. I think we should blame them all day.Comment -
Yet another card where you don't have a play? WTF, V???
Am I the only one who finds it weird that V hasn't backed a fighter in a fight since Damacio Page vs Alex Caceres?
Dude, come on. Get with it. Can't believe you've gone so many cards without having a solid play. I know you're on the winning side more often than not, so get to work!!!!!!!!!!!!Comment -
I'm not saying I like it. There's not a single worthwhile book I can make a full size wager at anymore. But if I was running their business I'd limit me too.
I do however think its bullshit that they can cancel bad lines. If whole foods puts up canned peas for 19 cents instead of 1.99, they can't call me the next day and tell me I have to return them.Comment -
Gabe, I've made over 3 grand in past 10 days from betting on the Olympics, just made £1800 yesterday from Jordan Burroughs. I'm finding far more opportunities to make money in that currently than I am in MMA so not concentrating on these events. I'm not gonna bet on UFC just for the sake of having some action. And haven't backed a fighter since Page vs Caceres? I had over 500 on Lorenz Larkin in the Strikeforce event, had Rani Yayha last wknd and Shogun in three parlays.Comment -
Don't recall the Yahya play. Don't remember you making a firm stance during the Yahya vs Grispi conversation. I remember the Larkin bet, that was a while ago. But yeah- my point is, this is the MMA thread. Try to have at least 1 play on every card you feel really confident in, my ninj.Comment -
MMA forum is for posting celebrity prop wagers, IMO.
Did I ever tell you how I won $25 on Mayweather getting out of jail early? Pretty sweet.Comment -
The bet slip was posted before the event and I have in a parlay that will make me over a grand if Andre Ward and Joseph B win.
I'll probably have a play on Ben Henderson hedged with Frankie by decision. Already got 1000 on Henderson at -125 and 450 on him at -137.5 but I cant bet against Frankie when there is such a good chance that he takes it to the judges and then anything could happen. So I'll be buying back on some of that with Frankie at +175 to +190 range and I'll risk about 500 on Henderson winning or Frankie by decision.
I'll probably play Cerrone SOTN and have Cerrone in a parlay or 2 as well. Lentz was my favourite pick for the card initially but current odds are a bit steep for me. Lentz has worked his ass off in this camp down in Miami with ATT, he should be in best shape of his career after working with Dolce. Im also interested in Jared Hamann, but cant rule out him getting blasted as he is a punching bag. But I think he can make to half way point the fight will be his as he'll have a considerable cardio edge after training at Grudge for this camp while Kuiper has been in Netherlands.Comment -
Risk free play on Bilyal Makhov in the wrestling today to win £103. Then another risk free play on Gadisov tomorrow to win £172.Comment -
Who's said he has a bad chin? He has a solid chin and is tough as hell but just has arguably the worse defense in the UFC! Doesnt matter how good your chin is, if you're a punching bag you are eventually going to go down, especially against big MW's like Costas and LHW's like Gustaffsson.Comment -
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Life is a journey. Sometimes it takes you places you never thought you’d go. Other times it alters your path completely.
UFC middleweight Jared Hamman knows this well. Although he and his wife had intentions of moving to Denver to start a family, a series of events this past December sped up the process.
“I had planned to move to Colorado with my wife at some point in time, but we wanted to wait until she graduated college,” explained Hamman in an exclusive interview with The MMA Corner. “About a week and a half to two weeks before my fight against Constantinos Philippou [at UFC 140], I found out she was pregnant. We had all the necessary protection, but it just happened. God had a different idea. Needless to say, it fast forwarded things a little bit.”
Although Hamman isn’t the type for excuses, it’s understandable that the situation may have distracted him so close to a fight. The news only added to a very hectic week for the fighter.
“My wife actually graduated the exact same day I fought Philippou,” Hamman recalled. “I’d love to get that fight back.”
Hamman (L) delivers a kick against Philippou (Heavy MMA)
The reason he’d like to have it back? Hamman suffered a first-round knockout which continued a streak of alternating wins and losses since joining the UFC in late 2009. The loss followed an impressive 185-pound debut just a few months earlier.
“This whole win-loss, win-loss thing is frustrating,” said Hamman of his up-and-down UFC career. “I don’t want to have those losses; it’s just the way it is. I still feel like middleweight is my weight class.”
Despite Hamman’s struggle to put together a winning streak thus far with the promotion, you won’t find anyone describing his fights as boring. Of his 17 career bouts, 15 have ended in stoppage and the two that went the distance earned “Fight of the Night” honors.
“To be honest, I don’t necessarily try to put on entertaining fights,” admitted the California native. “I know what I like—as a fighter and a fan—and that’s guys that stop fights. That’s always been my mindset. I like to come out of a fight knowing that I gave it everything and did the best I could, win or lose. It’s great that fans like it.”
Sadly, Hamman’s loss in the cage would soon be the furthest thing from his mind. Just as his wife’s pregnancy had come as a surprise, it ended just as unexpectedly. Although the couple lost the baby, they continue to move forward in a positive light. As with any journey, there will be hardships at many turns, but it’s in perseverance that Hamman and his wife demonstrate their strength of will, as well as their faith.
Now, Hamman will have the opportunity to impress the fans in his new backyard as he takes on Dutch judoka Michael Kuiper at UFC 150 on Aug. 11.
“I always thought it would happen in Los Angeles, at Staples Center,” stated Hamman. “The Pepsi Center is only three miles from my house. I can literally jog straight to the arena. It’s a blessing to be able to fight so close to the community. Plus, there’s the altitude. Training out here is such an advantage. It’s going to be awesome.”
Since moving to the Mile High City, Hamman—a former protégé of Antoni Hardonk—has been teaching kickboxing at High Altitude Martial Arts, the gym of Strikeforce welterweight champion Nate Marquardt.
“Nate has helped me tremendously,” said Hamman of the transition to his new gym. “I learned so much from Antoni Hardonk and Vladimir Matyushenko [in the past] and now that I’ve been out here in Denver, I’ve had a chance to work with some great coaches and guys. I feel like my skills have improved so much just being here in Colorado the last six or seven months.”
Hamman will look to put those skills to the test against Kuiper when the cage door shuts on Saturday night. The pair possesses 22 combined finishes in their 29 fights. Hence, Hamman is expecting a war against his younger foe.
“Young guys love to come forward and be aggressive,” declared the 30-year-old. “He’s eight years younger than I am. He’s got a ton of finishes on his record, just like me. It’s going to be an exciting fight for the fans. There’s going to be a lot of action.”
Hamman (Dave Mandel/Sherdog)
Although Kuiper has primarily fought in Europe thus far in his career, Hamman isn’t underestimating the Dutchman. After all, Kuiper took veteran Rafael Natal to decision in his UFC debut this spring.
“I have to take him seriously because Natal is not an easy guy to fight,” Hamman said of Kuiper’s UFC 143 performance. “Regardless of whom he’s fought in the past, that fight alone shows me he’s got some skills. He may have lost a decision, but he almost knocked him out in the third round.”
“But I saw some holes in his stand-up game. I also saw some holes in his takedown defense. I plan on capitalizing on those things. I’ll be prepared for whatever he’s got.”
With five Octagon bouts on his resume, but a record of 2-3 with the promotion, Hamman may be competing for his job against Kuiper. Yet, the fighter maintains a positive outlook on his career and life.
“My mentality is that you never know when your next fight is going to be,” said Hamman. “I’ve always prided myself on going out as hard as I can each fight. In the scheme of things, we’re always on thin ice.”
“This whole MMA journey has taught me so much about myself. Fighting is cool, but it’s built up a lot inside me. I just look forward to putting on a good show.”Comment -
Win or lose, Lawrence will take some time off following Saturday’s fight.
“I want to enjoy some time off and go on a cruise. I need to rest my foot. It still hurts a little from kicking Cofer. I need to rest my hands, too,” Lawrence said. “I’ll fight again at the end of the year or the beginning of next year.”
Samuel Sicilia @SamSiciliaMMA
@AmericanKiddMMA I cannot wait til Youngblood fights! I'm bettin the farm homie! With Benny in ur corner ur unstoppable! #realtalk
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Hey Vaugh, are you going on Brazil today? I think we are almost a lock in soccer and volleyball (men) this weekend.Comment -
No I can't really blame them either, they run a business and any business would increase their bottom line given the chance. I do think they are shady in the way they promote themselves etc.
Bring back the old man with a ledger in front of him pricing up each market for the day =)
Oh do you have much experience with the following books? SBO, 188, 12bet, IBC. Supposedly pretty hard to get limited by these but idk, only really used 188bet properly myself.Comment -
are you a veggy? Yeah i know, i know youre not accepting it. I just need to get it out there. Need a rant. But pinnacle you say, they dont limit you in any way? I have noticed that they seem less constrictive..Comment -
Just this that I did at start of tournament....
06/07/2012 Single To Win Brazil Olympic Team @ 9/4
Men's Outright (GOLD)
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This is pinnacle's stance on betlimits.. http://www.pinnaclesports.com/inform...=home&icl=box2Comment
