Vaughany's MMA Picks...

[Beelzebubzy]

Odds out
jimmo -145

[bjpenn85]

Fakkkk. Sportsbook.com. I dont get the american odds anymore. My bloody euro account cant access those sweet lines. Can you?

[Vaughany]

Fakkkk. Sportsbook.com. I dont get the american odds anymore. My bloody euro account cant access those sweet lines. Can you?

Nah takes them ages to update

[bjpenn85]

Because of sportsbook.com the american market actually edges us out as paddy skybet and ladbrokes just copy past 5dimes lines.

[Vaughany]

yeah pretty much

[Crassus]

If Melvin's already won the fight 10 different ways, Cerrone's won it in at least 20 different ways!

Nah, just the one. Submission.

[Vaughany]

Because of sportsbook.com the american market actually edges us out as paddy skybet and ladbrokes just copy past 5dimes lines.

Spoke to my Ukrainian friend in customer services at Sportsbook have the odds up now for us in EU....but looks like I've been limited already! Massive £7 on Roland Delorme at +140! Only signed up 4 weeks ago and haven't actually made any profit on there yet! Let me know if u've got ridiculously low limits on there as well?!

[bjpenn85]

i joined youwin.com seemt to be the exact same site, tried there? Sucks to be you. Im not yet limited.

[Vaughany]

i joined youwin.com seemt to be the exact same site, tried there? Sucks to be you. Im not yet limited.

oh yeah noticed tht on oddschecker. I've signed up and its let me place bigger bets. They'll probably limit me next week tho when they realise I've got accounts with both sportsbook and youwin!

[bjpenn85]

maybe, maybe not. At least you tried. i think anton wins without any big problems. I was wrong on the oliveira, yusqinto or what the **** his name was, but i do think anton can keep this fight standing. But the matchup is similar. And betting undercards is always scare when you cant hedge.

[DublinMeUp]

Guys do you not worry about the books you put your money on? youwin/sportingbet/sporting odds are a book i wouldn't took with a bargepole. Shady organisation altogether.

[Vaughany]

Guys do you not worry about the books you put your money on? youwin/sportingbet/sporting odds are a book i wouldn't took with a bargepole. Shady organisation altogether.

I've never had an issue with any site listed on oddschecker.com and youwin.com is on there now so I dont think there will be an issue

[Beelzebubzy]

Mr Vaughany

How are you this Thursday? What are your thoughts on Bryan baker for bellator?
I feel like his grapple heavy attack will cause Karl to gas out much quicker.

[Vaughany]

Cage Warriors 48 play:

Cage Warriors 45 plays:



6.316 units on Chris Fields at +135 to win 8.527 units;




My biggest degen play of the night...Chris "The Killing" Fields! I've been a fan of this guy since I saw his fight with Tony Moran (Wolfslair fighter) back in 2010. Apart from being a fan of Fields, I also like to fade Mason as I just don't think he is very good. So I wouldn't tail on this as I could easily be over-rating Fields and under-rating Mason here! At last weeks Cage Warriors event I thought that most of the dogs where under-valued and put SBR points on all of them. 4 out of 5 ended up winning so was pretty p*ssed that I didnt have the balls to bet real dollar on them! So all four favourites will probably go and win tonight now that I've bet on three dogs! I also have a risk-free play on Peter Markusson in the boxing that will net me 9 units profit so hopefully have that as back-up in case these go up!

Fields fights out of SGB in Dublin, the premier camp in Ireland. His main coach is the very well respected John Kavanagh, who happens to be the first ever Irish man to get a black-belt in BJJ. Despite starting out as a striker, Fields has evolved nicely over past 3 years in to a decent grappler as well thanks to working with Kavanagh and Matt Thornton. Kavanagh is one of the most respected coaches in Europe, and has been one of the main coaches along with Thornton involved in developing Gunnar Nelson's ground game (the best grappler in Europe and one of the biggest prospects in MMA). Thornton awarded Gunnar his blue and purple-belts, while he was awarded his brown belt from Kavanagh, and since then gone on to get his black belt from Renzo. Along with Owen Roddy who is another decent prospect in Ireland, he and Fields have developed decent ground games for professional Ireland/UK standards thanks to the work of John Kavanagh and now actually like to take fights to the ground rather than keep them standing.

Fields although not particularly bulky is still quite a big middleweight being 6ft 3 and cuts from 213-215lbs. As mentioned above, he comes from a striking background, but due to having Kavanagh as head coach and mentor, he has naturally become more grappling orientated, and tends to look to take the fight to the ground rather than keep it standing. However, his shot is very average. He'll often look for double legs but do it without any set-up and shoot from too far out without fully committing so is often stuffed easily. If he tries this he may struggle against the experienced Mason, and end up in a bad position, despite Mason being very flat-footed. Fields' takedowns from the clinch are were his strengths lie. He has solid body lock and inside trips which often lead to him ending up in side-mount or mount, or at worse in opponents half-guard. Even when struggling to get the takedowns from the clinch which he probably will early on against Mason, he has great perseverance. The fact that he has a decent height advantage in this one means that if he does get in the clinch with Mason he'll also be able to look for the plum and work knees to the liver and chin of Mason. Fields isnt one to settle for getting a takedown and lying in guard stealing rounds. He'll work ground and pound and look to be aggressive moving to full mount. His specialty is arm-bars, and also has proficient chokes such as d'arce and brabos. A great strength of Fields' is his ability to listen to Kavanagh in his corner and follow his instructions. He credits a lot of his wins due to Kavanagh telling him what to do during fights and altering game-plans.

Mason meanwhile trains at the Tsunami gym, Cambridge with UFC fighter John "The One" Maguire. He also has up and coming prospect Luke Barnatt who is 6’ 6” and a similar body-type to Fields so the combination of Barnatt and Maguire (who is a solid grappler for UK MMA standards) means that he'll be well prepared for what Fields brings. Mason clearly has a big experience advantage over Fields which is probably the main reason why he is favourite in this fight. He's fought the likes of Zaromskis, Hathaway, Paraisy, and most recently Brian Foster. Coincidentally though, he happened to get dominated in all of those fights! He most recent win was against 0-4 Miguel Bernard, who was also 0-2 as an amateur so hell knows why he has been getting fights against likes of Mason and Tim Radcliffe! Losing to likes of Zaromskis and Hathaway is nothing to be ashamed about, I highly doubt Chris Fields would have a chance against them either. But the Paraisy fight for me was very telling of Mason's abilities. In tht fight he looked downright awful! His takedown attempts were slow and predictable, his striking was stiff with no combinations, his footwork was non-existent - just completely flat-footed, and he ended up getting caught by a glancing knee and pretty much giving up in the third round. Both guys seemed to gas out by end of the second round despite the fact that they'd barely done anything in the first or second round! Maybe that was just an off day for Mason, he might come out in this fight looking completely different, but I'll take my chances against an underdog in Fields who is well-rounded, hungry, and gritty. Another thing about Mason is that he doesnt like taking punishment. Aside from the embarrassing finish to the Paraisy fight where it hardly looked like the knee connected, he also tapped to strikes from Hathaway after Hath slammed him Rory Mac style a few times and landed a couple of punches from his back. Finally, one more point to consider is that Fields trains MMA full-time, he spends his life in the gym, while as far as I'm aware Mason still works a full-time job as well as training. Something to consider, as it's difficult for a guy like Mason to evolve when he's only training a couple hours a day, and has to focus on other things while guys like Fields sacrificed a career in banking (also was an auctioneer) where he could of earned a lot more money to fully focus on MMA career.

Should of had more faith in my boy Fields and gone big!

I'll be playing him against John Phillips. Big dumb one-dimensional boxer gonna get choked out...Stay tuned!

As you'll see above, I played John Fields as underdog against Jack Mason a while ago and he didnt dissapoint, winning by TKO in opening couple of minutes. I also commented that I'd be playing him against John Philips and this hasn't changed. They were expected to meet a few months ago but Fields had to pull out due to a back strain, but now they will finally meet after Fields stepped in for the injured Faycal Hucin. Much of what I discussed in the breakdown above still stands. Philips is a far tougher test than Jack Mason tho. Philips is a decent boxer and has legit power and toughness. Nonetheless, I believe Fields can use his reach and reasonably proficient kickboxing to control the distance and land leg and body kicks before closing the distance and getting a takedown. Should also offer a threat in the clinch as he can use his height advantage to get the thai-plum and work knees to the body and chin of Philips. Once the fight hits the ground Philips will be in trouble. "The White Mike Tyson" is predominantly a boxer, although granted he has developed his ground game over past year or so and showed that in his last fight when he triangled the Czech Tomas Penz. But still, Penz is a mediocre fighter and was still able to take Philips down a couple of times and get full mount. if Fields gets full mount you wont see a similar situation. Even though it's short notice, Fields has been training and spent time in Iceland recently doing seminars and rolling with Gunnar Nelson (arguably the best grappler in Europe along with Sass). He's been helping likes of Owen Roddy prepare for his fight against Gugerty and been sparring with Cathal Pendred. The coaching and sparring partners at his disposal is at another level to the guys that Philips has available in Wales. Overall, I believe Fields is playable up to -175 range as he is undoubtedly the more well rounded fighter and his grappling advantage far outweighs Philips striking advantage. Even if this fight was just a kickboxing matchup I still wouldn't count Fields out. Philips could get the TKO/KO for sure, Fields is going to have to be very tight with his defence and needs to realise that his biggest advantage is on the ground. I have a lot of confidence that Fields is not the type of fighter to get caught up in a brawl and with John Kavanagh in his corner who is BJJ orientated we should see a cerebral gameplan.

MU[37502] CHRIS FIELDS (JOHN PHILLIPS vrs CHRIS FIELDS)

PK-165

£105.50

£63.94

7/20/12 2:51am

$155.00

$100.00

Pending

7/21/12 1:30pm MMA Fighting 3002 Chris Fields -155* vs John Phillips

[Vaughany]

Cage Warriors 48 play:





As you'll see above, I played John Fields as underdog against Jack Mason a while ago and he didnt dissapoint, winning by TKO in opening couple of minutes. I also commented that I'd be playing him against John Philips and this hasn't changed. They were expected to meet a few months ago but Fields had to pull out due to a back strain, but now they will finally meet after Fields stepped in for the injured Faycal Hucin. Much of what I discussed in the breakdown above still stands. Philips is a far tougher test than Jack Mason tho. Philips is a decent boxer and has legit power and toughness. Nonetheless, I believe Fields can use his reach and reasonably proficient kickboxing to control the distance and land leg and body kicks before closing the distance and getting a takedown. Should also offer a threat in the clinch as he can use his height advantage to get the thai-plum and work knees to the body and chin of Philips. Once the fight hits the ground Philips will be in trouble. "The White Mike Tyson" is predominantly a boxer, although granted he has developed his ground game over past year or so and showed that in his last fight when he triangled the Czech Tomas Penz. But still, Penz is a mediocre fighter and was still able to take Philips down a couple of times and get full mount. if Fields gets full mount you wont see a similar situation. Even though it's short notice, Fields has been training and spent time in Iceland recently doing seminars and rolling with Gunnar Nelson (arguably the best grappler in Europe along with Sass). He's been helping likes of Owen Roddy prepare for his fight against Gugerty and been sparring with Cathal Pendred. The coaching and sparring partners at his disposal is at another level to the guys that Philips has available in Wales. Overall, I believe Fields is playable up to -175 range as he is undoubtedly the more well rounded fighter and his grappling advantage far outweighs Philips striking advantage. Even if this fight was just a kickboxing matchup I still wouldn't count Fields out. Philips could get the TKO/KO for sure, Fields is going to have to be very tight with his defence and needs to realise that his biggest advantage is on the ground. I have a lot of confidence that Fields is not the type of fighter to get caught up in a brawl and with John Kavanagh in his corner who is BJJ orientated we should see a cerebral gameplan.

MU[37502] CHRIS FIELDS (JOHN PHILLIPS vrs CHRIS FIELDS)

PK-165

£105.50

£63.94

7/20/12 2:51am

$155.00

$100.00

Pending

7/21/12 1:30pm MMA Fighting 3002 Chris Fields -155* vs John Phillips

Clearly got first names of John Philips and Chris Fields mixed up there!

[DublinMeUp]

I've never had an issue with any site listed on oddschecker.com and youwin.com is on there now so I dont think there will be an issue

Yeah but they did sent out thousands of mails offering deposit bonuses then turn around and remove a ton of the bonuses plus winnings, leaving some accounts in minus figures somehow. I'm not 100% on exactly what happened but the general gist is right.

That to me signifies two things, they were in need of capital and custom and their ethics are pretty much non existent.

Sportingbet are renowned for similar behaviour and its not a coincidence seeing as the same guy is behind both operations.

Just a warning to be careful mate, from what i've seen you likely deposit a large enough amount.

[Vaughany]

Yeah but they did sent out thousands of mails offering deposit bonuses then turn around and remove a ton of the bonuses plus winnings, leaving some accounts in minus figures somehow. I'm not 100% on exactly what happened but the general gist is right.

That to me signifies two things, they were in need of capital and custom and their ethics are pretty much non existent.

Sportingbet are renowned for similar behaviour and its not a coincidence seeing as the same guy is behind both operations.

Just a warning to be careful mate, from what i've seen you likely deposit a large enough amount.

ah right, thanks for the warning. I've had a sportingbet account for about 2 years and I've never had any issues. DOesnt mean I wont with this youwin one tho

[Beelzebubzy]

Alot of people missed weight! Pre Olympic drinking festival?

[Vaughany]

ha shiit yeah jus seen on twitter. Probably a scew up with the scales in the back and/or probably using the sauna or something! Usually something shambolic like that with these kind of events, I remember Brad Wheeler had trouble cutting weight at one of the events recently because they turned up to use the sauna and they weren't allowed in as was for members only! See Sutherland and Peixoto made weight eventually but Hardiman has been docked 25% of his purse..ouch

[Beelzebubzy]

Did Bret hart give a prediction for Faber vs barao?

[Vaughany]

Mr Vaughany

How are you this Thursday? What are your thoughts on Bryan baker for bellator?
I feel like his grapple heavy attack will cause Karl to gas out much quicker.

yeah like Baker...not pulled trigger yet tho

[Vaughany]

[Vaughany]

Bellator 72 play:

9:51am 20-Jul-12

6:45pm 20-Jul-12

Mixed Martial Arts Money Line

Karl Amoussou vs Bryan Baker for Match.

-152

200.00

131.58

Pending

[DirtyX]

Awesome. Some people have way too much time on their hands, although this video I love.

[Vaughany]

Cage Warriors 48 play:





As you'll see above, I played John Fields as underdog against Jack Mason a while ago and he didnt dissapoint, winning by TKO in opening couple of minutes. I also commented that I'd be playing him against John Philips and this hasn't changed. They were expected to meet a few months ago but Fields had to pull out due to a back strain, but now they will finally meet after Fields stepped in for the injured Faycal Hucin. Much of what I discussed in the breakdown above still stands. Philips is a far tougher test than Jack Mason tho. Philips is a decent boxer and has legit power and toughness. Nonetheless, I believe Fields can use his reach and reasonably proficient kickboxing to control the distance and land leg and body kicks before closing the distance and getting a takedown. Should also offer a threat in the clinch as he can use his height advantage to get the thai-plum and work knees to the body and chin of Philips. Once the fight hits the ground Philips will be in trouble. "The White Mike Tyson" is predominantly a boxer, although granted he has developed his ground game over past year or so and showed that in his last fight when he triangled the Czech Tomas Penz. But still, Penz is a mediocre fighter and was still able to take Philips down a couple of times and get full mount. if Fields gets full mount you wont see a similar situation. Even though it's short notice, Fields has been training and spent time in Iceland recently doing seminars and rolling with Gunnar Nelson (arguably the best grappler in Europe along with Sass). He's been helping likes of Owen Roddy prepare for his fight against Gugerty and been sparring with Cathal Pendred. The coaching and sparring partners at his disposal is at another level to the guys that Philips has available in Wales. Overall, I believe Fields is playable up to -175 range as he is undoubtedly the more well rounded fighter and his grappling advantage far outweighs Philips striking advantage. Even if this fight was just a kickboxing matchup I still wouldn't count Fields out. Philips could get the TKO/KO for sure, Fields is going to have to be very tight with his defence and needs to realise that his biggest advantage is on the ground. I have a lot of confidence that Fields is not the type of fighter to get caught up in a brawl and with John Kavanagh in his corner who is BJJ orientated we should see a cerebral gameplan.

MU[37502] CHRIS FIELDS (JOHN PHILLIPS vrs CHRIS FIELDS)

PK-165

£105.50

£63.94

7/20/12 2:51am

$155.00

$100.00

Pending

7/21/12 1:30pm MMA Fighting 3002 Chris Fields -155* vs John Phillips

[BIGDAY]

Agreed with Baker, Wish we could've had odds closer to EV, but I do believe he can get the fight to the ground a few times. He'll stay plenty busy through the fight as well. He's the rightful favorite imo.

BOL this weekend!

[gabe]

Baker has looked terrible in his wins, Amassou has looked great in his. Taking BIG KARL.............

[sirchadwick1]

I can only see Karl winning by (T)KO here. Baker will put pressure on him and I think he'll get it to the ground in the very first round. I like Baker's price and actually expected him to be around -170. Karl's tank will be near empty by the 3rd.

Baker via UD.

[Vaughany]

Baker has looked terrible in his wins, Amassou has looked great in his. Taking BIG KARL.............

Maybe so, but I thinking beating Ben Saunders who is a legit WW is more impressive to me than Amassou scraping a split-decision against a guy tht should be fighting at LW in Rickels.

[Crassus]

Baker has looked terrible in his wins, Amassou has looked great in his. Taking BIG KARL.............

I dunno about GREAT but he's shown vastly improved cardio actually (made it halfway through round 2 before utterly gassing.) regardless, I agree about taking Karl. He'll win the first 2.

[gabe]

So the play is Amassou ITD? Ressspek.

[Vaughany]

So the play is Amassou ITD? Ressspek.

Good look finding tht prop

[gabe]

Good look finding tht prop

I'll take him Straight up, s'all good. Taking the dude who looks for the finish over the dull grinder.

[BIGDAY]

Be smart Gabe. Look at the styles.

[Vaughany]

I'll take him Straight up, s'all good. Taking the dude who looks for the finish over the dull grinder.

GL...could well see another Baker/Vitor Vianna situation