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    UFC 244: Masvidal vs. Diaz (November 02, 2019)



    Pay-per-view 10:00 pm ET
    Jorge Masvidal vs Nate Diaz
    Kelvin Gastelum vs Darren Till
    Vicente Luque vs Stephen Thompson
    Blagoy Ivanov vs Derrick Lewis
    Gregor Gillespie vs Kevin Lee

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    Corey Anderson vs Johnny Walker
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    Andrei Arlovski vs Jair Rozenstruik

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    Very excited for this card.
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    Accurate

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    I have no idea who will win that fight but I am definitely going to watch it

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    Nate Diaz announces he's out of UFC 244 headliner due to 'some tainted supplements'

    https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2019/...ed-supplements
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    Major bummer. Sounds like a potential Leon Edwards fight is in the mix for Masvidal.

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    Dont think Diaz cheats, have USADA tainted samples by accident? I doubt Diaz have taken any performers enhancers at all.

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    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH View Post
    Nate Diaz announces he's out of UFC 244 headliner due to 'some tainted supplements'

    https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2019/...ed-supplements

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    Toss Mike Perry in there LOL....still a solid card IMO

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    he thinks someone he called out is penetrating with him so he would fail...
    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    Dont think Diaz cheats, have USADA tainted samples by accident? I doubt Diaz have taken any performers enhancers at all.

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    Edwards needs a title shot not a BMF shot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    he thinks someone he called out is penetrating with him so he would fail...
    Or he may have gotten some very small dose of anything orally without knowing. But the fact that he smokes openly at a press conference or a workout may be a type of behaviour to trigger some idealistic douchebag within USADA to taint sample on purpose.

    I think we can be pretty sure that Diaz with intent have used any kind of performance enhancing drug is significantly less than other reasons. Science related to the use of performance enhancing is so bad its a joke. Way to many mistakes and lacks of real science in the field. Cant really trust USADA, at least i dont.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    Or he may have gotten some very small dose of anything orally without knowing. But the fact that he smokes openly at a press conference or a workout may be a type of behaviour to trigger some idealistic douchebag within USADA to taint sample on purpose.

    I think we can be pretty sure that Diaz with intent have used any kind of performance enhancing drug is significantly less than other reasons. Science related to the use of performance enhancing is so bad its a joke. Way to many mistakes and lacks of real science in the field. Cant really trust USADA, at least i dont.
    Well well well, looks like the old wise bjpenn was correct after all. The big clown institute of them all USADA goes back on their initial stand.

    Im not surprised MF https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/10/...8muwGBQw3t0KAk

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    Nate Diaz cleared to fight at UFC 244 after USADA exonerates him of wrongdoing

    https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2019/...-diaz-still-on
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    Hey all

    I'm back! ...well, not really, yet.

    I bowed out after Conor failed to punch out Khabib, like a bitch.
    I swear...I gotta get in there to be the one to show how to take that fker Khabib out!

    Just wanted to drop my 2 cents on this situation with Diaz...
    He ain't a baddest ************ after that threat to pull out over "adverse findings!" The baddest MF would be like, whatever, I know I'm clean, we fightin...that tantrum and threat was a bitch move IMHO.

    While the fight was still sort of up in the air I established that Masvidal needs to knock this idiot out.


    GL

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    #WarDiaz!!

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    From the west coast, I'm going for the East Coast Gangsta, GameBred.

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    Granted it could be said that a threat/pull out like Nate did was a BMF move, especially considering that he got what he wanted, granted... "Fight game I'll see you when I see you"...GTFOH with that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChael View Post
    #WarDiaz!!

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    Event Background

    UFC 244: Masvidal vs. Diaz is an upcoming mixed martial arts pay-per-view event produced by the Ultimate Fighting Championship that is planned to take place on November 2, 2019 at Madison Square Garden in New York City, New York.[1] The event will mark the UFC's 500th live event.[2]

    A welterweight bout between Jorge Masvidal and former UFC Lightweight Championship challenger and The Ultimate Fighter 5 lightweight winner Nate Diaz is expected to headline the event.[3] After his UFC 241 win against former lightweight champion Anthony Pettis, Diaz proclaimed himself the "baddest ************ in the game" and issued a challenge to Masvidal. That led up to the booking of this fight and UFC President Dana White also confirmed that a "baddest ************" (‘BMF’) belt will be delivered to the winner of this bout.[4] However, Diaz tweeted a statement on October 24 saying he would not be competing due to an adverse drug test finding, putting the bout in jeopardy.[5] It was announced on October 26 by the UFC that Diaz was cleared to compete as his positive test had traces of LGD-4033, or Ligandrol, a selective androgen receptor modulator, related to a tainted batch of organic, vegan multivitamins.[6]

    Krzysztof Jotko was scheduled to face Edmen Shahbazyan at the event. However, Jotko was removed from the pairing in early October for undisclosed reasons and replaced by Brad Tavares.[7]

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    What are people's thoughts on the Main Event? I'm not too sure on this one.

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    i think the ml on masvidat is kind of unbettable at this point

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    think i'll only take the ftgtd at -145 and thats it regarding this one

    what are your guy's thoughts on fading luke ?

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    Ship the house on Burgos 30-27 all day....

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    Rozen-155,
    Arce +110,
    Gillespie -170,
    Ivanov -125,
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    Most excited to watch/FOTN is Thompson Vs Luque----just WHOA......lol....insane fight there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    Ship the house on Burgos 30-27 all day....

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    Good -125,
    Rozen-155,
    Arce +110,
    Gillespie -170,
    Ivanov -125,
    Do you bet those 5? Or just leans?

    I got Burgos down at -200 for 3 units. Wish i had 5, a little mistake there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    What are people's thoughts on the Main Event? I'm not too sure on this one.
    Just gonna watch this one as a fan. Amazing fight. Gun to head I bet goes the distance
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    I have not officially pulled the trigger yet on anything except burgos and a parlay with everyone for $50......I still think -250 is a deal and would play him to about the -280 range....this APPEARS to be a very profitable card.....
    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    Do you bet those 5? Or just leans?

    I got Burgos down at -200 for 3 units. Wish i had 5, a little mistake there.

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    As far as Rozen -155...I just think AA is finally on the decline...he is the top, top of 38 years +......but to feed him into a 31 year old guy that's been KO'ing semi legit fighters .....I think Ill take my chances....Right?

    On to the Black beast....at ANY time he could decide to roll in fat and "retire" and not do shit....that added with Baga using IMO AMAZING footwork and high fight IQ-"not putting himself in danger"...add's into a W....and at only -125 Solid play IMO

    Good -125....he is a genetic freak...IF he loses it will be in round 3 with 2 rounds in the bag....

    Gillespie-by way of skillset and heart.....his heart is 5X Lee's and his skills are above as well....he will maul him....







    Arce--love his no joke attitude....will be the guy advancing here and that's who I see winning--the guy pointing and walking forward....he may even get the TKO due to the volume....

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    I am already planning a sickness to avoid a Halloween Party-might even have to call off Friday to just make it all appear Kosher lol......... LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmellMyFinger View Post
    think i'll only take the ftgtd at -145 and thats it regarding this one

    what are your guy's thoughts on fading luke ?
    I like that prop too. Both guys are extremely durable.

    Gotta be careful fading Luque. Thompson is definitely a more technical striker and could outclass Luque on the feet but I'm worried about Thompson's age and durability since his hands down counterstrike style is heavily dependent on quick reactions and precise timing which decline rapidly with age.

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    Waiting for Walker rd1 prop

    Kelvin/Burgos parlay pays +106.67

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    As far as Rozen -155...I just think AA is finally on the decline...he is the top, top of 38 years +......but to feed him into a 31 year old guy that's been KO'ing semi legit fighters .....I think Ill take my chances....Right?

    On to the Black beast....at ANY time he could decide to roll in fat and "retire" and not do shit....that added with Baga using IMO AMAZING footwork and high fight IQ-"not putting himself in danger"...add's into a W....and at only -125 Solid play IMO

    Good -125....he is a genetic freak...IF he loses it will be in round 3 with 2 rounds in the bag....

    Gillespie-by way of skillset and heart.....his heart is 5X Lee's and his skills are above as well....he will maul him....







    Arce--love his no joke attitude....will be the guy advancing here and that's who I see winning--the guy pointing and walking forward....he may even get the TKO due to the volume....
    Rozen, i thought about him a little, but then i watched his ground game against Albini. What an absolute joke of a figher he is. He has 0 ground game. "oh but arlovsky never goes for takeodowns". Well, this is the fight he actually might go for a takedown.

    Agreed with Bago.

    Havent broken down the Good vs recountre fight, i probably bet it live.

    To many unknown aspects of Gillespies game to make a bet. Love Gillespie but most of my questions will most likely be answered in this fight, but that also means i cant bet him. How is he from the bottom? How is his sub defence? How is his striking? How will he deal with a bigger fighter who also is a good wrestler?

    I think youre lying if you can tell me that you know, youre making a gamble and while thats ok, its a risky but, at favourite odds against a theoretically better fighter. Youre not getting a good deal here Paper.

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