Actually, I question Ivanov's fight IQ based on that fact that he has no takedowns or at least doesn't attempt them.
UFC 238: Cejudo vs. Moraes (June 08, 2019)
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TeemSBR Sharp
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turbozedSBR MVP
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#72Like Hill, Moraes, Ferg, and Petr Yan here.
Lots of value on Hill and Moraes atm. Slight value on Ferg and Yan.Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#73Value tossing $1200 at $300......easy $300 maybe-sure but Value?Originally posted by turbozedLike Hill, Moraes, Ferg, and Petr Yan here.
Lots of value on Hill and Moraes atm. Slight value on Ferg and Yan.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
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#74I canceled my Cerrone bet, or hedged it out, and then i put 1 unit on Hill instead. Couldnt agree more.Originally posted by turbozedLike Hill, Moraes, Ferg, and Petr Yan here.
Lots of value on Hill and Moraes atm. Slight value on Ferg and Yan.
I like Kattar and Bewon Lewis as well.
Shapes up to be a gigantic night, even with a loss or two, i doubt this isnt going to be one of the most profitable nights this year.
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EnfuegoSBR Sharp
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#75Awesome, thanks. Good luck to us.Originally posted by PaperTrail07Micro w Rivera in there and besides that-Yes...so 2 Lotto tickeys...
#1) UFC Fighting.
Selection : H. Cejudo 6/8/2019 6:00PM - (PST) Money Line +115 for Game
#2) UFC Fighting
Selection : T. Ferguson 6/8/2019 6:00PM - (PST) Money Line -135 for Game
#3) UFC Fighting
Selection : T. Tuivasa 6/8/2019 6:00PM - (PST) Money Line -145 for Game
#4) UFC Fighting
Selection : E. Wineland 6/8/2019 6:00PM - (PST) Money Line -130 for Game
#5) UFC Fighting
Selection : B. Lewis 6/8/2019 6:00PM - (PST) Money Line -225 for Game
Risking : 50.00 To Win : 758.02 USD
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EnfuegoSBR Sharp
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#76How is there value on Yan?Originally posted by turbozedLike Hill, Moraes, Ferg, and Petr Yan here.
Lots of value on Hill and Moraes atm. Slight value on Ferg and Yan.Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#77No doubt---if it comes down to 1-for the love of god-HEDGE LOL.....ive been on a streak of whiffing by 1 on my lotto's....
Originally posted by EnfuegoAwesome, thanks. Good luck to us.Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#78The line was getting out of control IMO....its dropped to the -300 range and I expect it to stay there.....Originally posted by EnfuegoHow is there value on Yan?Comment -
jacharron17SBR Sharp
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#7955/45 Ferguson to win, 60/40 decision
55/45 Moraes to win, 55/45 decision.
52/48 Kowalkiewicz to win, 62/38 decision.
52/48 Sterling to win, 60/40 decision.
Those are my implied probabilities for this event. I see value on the Over on both Cejudo/Moraes, and Ferg/Cerrone.Comment -
ThrillaSBR Posting Legend
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#80Originally posted by Sanity CheckYour hourly reminder: Henry Cejudo won a gold medal in the olympics!
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PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#81Wineland Fight off? Nothing about it---line pulled and off the card on UFC...Comment -
RetibolSBR Sharp
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#82The issue is,, Tony is very good against kickersOriginally posted by jacharron17Will Ferguson be able to handle Cerrone's leg kicks? Ferguson is coming off a knee injury so that may play a factor...
He puts tremendous pressure and never stops,
Almost impossible to throw a kick at him;
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PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#83Agree but Lando ALMOST got him LOL...Originally posted by RetibolThe issue is,, Tony is very good against kickers
He puts tremendous pressure and never stops,
Almost impossible to throw a kick at him;
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BaraldssonSBR Wise Guy- 05-18-19
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#84El Cucuy was really hanging in there for a while against Lando, still can't believe how well he recovered after nearly being KOd.Originally posted by PaperTrail07Agree but Lando ALMOST got him LOL...Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#85Why Tony is the GOAT....I really hope he comes out looking like himself....here is that fight-vredit to Big John for not stepping in.....have seen refs step in w less...
Originally posted by BaraldssonEl Cucuy was really hanging in there for a while against Lando, still can't believe how well he recovered after nearly being KOd.Comment -
BaraldssonSBR Wise Guy- 05-18-19
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#86Such a great fight, had completely forgotten the way Tony backed up towards the cage looking badly rocked (just after 4:00 on video) then immediately throws a spinning elbow. As you say, Paper, that's why he's the GOATOriginally posted by PaperTrail07Why Tony is the GOAT....I really hope he comes out looking like himself....here is that fight-vredit to Big John for not stepping in.....have seen refs step in w less...
https://ok.ru/video/77623986693
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Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#87Liking Yan here. Got a few other fights that I'm thinking about as well.Comment -
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JC2008SBR MVP
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#90What other leans do you have?Originally posted by Hugo de NaranjaLiking Yan here. Got a few other fights that I'm thinking about as well.Comment -
turbozedSBR MVP
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#91Yeah, I misspoke. At -335 range I don't think there's much value at all on Yan anymore. Played it a while back so haven't been paying attention to the movement.Originally posted by PaperTrail07Value tossing $1200 at $300......easy $300 maybe-sure but Value?Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#92I like Moraes over Cejudo. Would love to see Cejudo get wrecked early. He is one of my least favorite fighters.Originally posted by JC2008What other leans do you have?Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#93Same. Got in from (-195) to (-260) when line opened.Originally posted by turbozedYeah, I misspoke. At -335 range I don't think there's much value at all on Yan anymore. Played it a while back so haven't been paying attention to the movement.Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#94Cejudo and his coach are both arrogant clownsComment -
RussianMikeSBR Sharp
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#95Originally posted by bjpenn85I agree with you fully. I just think Cejudo isnt quite yet there when it comes to the striking. My concern is though, that Cejudo seems to make improvements fight by fight, hes trainer is talking about him at some time back, turned a corner and has ever since just become better and better to a ridiculous level. Often those rumours holds water, and as a potential Moraes better i instantly back of, so this may be a fight were im going to pass up i think.
But what a fight ladies and gentleman, this is really the pinnacle of sports competitors. Top shelf athletes, these bodies were made for sport, these gentlemans genes are pure excellence!!!Even with bad fight iq, bad trainers and subpar diet, these guys destiny is at the very top!!
That sounds crazy to me because if you watch his fights, I don't see him doing anything at all different in his fights now, that he wasn't doing back when he fought Reis, or even when he lost to Benevidez and DJ. He looks like the same fighter, but the fights seem to be going his way now.Comment -
RussianMikeSBR Sharp
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#96Would just love to give a big shout out to whatever penetrating whale is out there keeping that Ferguson/Cerrone fight hovering anywhere near even money, when I know plenty of people still taking Ferguson at -250 if it got there. All you can eat on that shit, it's free money.Comment -
RussianMikeSBR Sharp
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#97Tee up his fight against RDA and then get back to us, buddy.Originally posted by magpie878(as I often say), I'm pretty new to following UFC.... who beat Ferguson previously, and were they legit losses or flukey? I don't remember seeing him in my brief time. I've gotten to see Cerrone several times now and he hasn't lost, despite being a constant dog.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
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#98Especially between the DJ and the Benavidez fight, guy did looked much improved in the benavisez fight to many peoples surprise, especially me who had money on benavidez. He wasnt recognizable at all. After that the improvements have been there from fight to fight, but more subtle.Originally posted by RussianMikeThat sounds crazy to me because if you watch his fights, I don't see him doing anything at all different in his fights now, that he wasn't doing back when he fought Reis, or even when he lost to Benevidez and DJ. He looks like the same fighter, but the fights seem to be going his way now.Comment -
ThrillaSBR Posting Legend
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#99Originally posted by Sanity CheckYour hourly reminder: Henry Cejudo won a gold medal in the olympics!
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DemonataBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#100Me too man. I can't stand him!! I hope moraes kicks his penetrating head off!!!Originally posted by Hugo de NaranjaI like Moraes over Cejudo. Would love to see Cejudo get wrecked early. He is one of my least favorite fighters.Comment -
turbozedSBR MVP
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#101Got a sizeable stake on Moraes around -115 so we're on the same page here.Originally posted by Hugo de NaranjaI like Moraes over Cejudo. Would love to see Cejudo get wrecked early. He is one of my least favorite fighters.
Here's a great breakdown that someone sent me to look at. Think it hits a lot of the major points and is an entertaining read:
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magpie878SBR MVP
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#102Not sure what you mean. I was asking who BEAT Ferguson and if those losses were legit or flukey.Originally posted by RussianMikeTee up his fight against RDA and then get back to us, buddy.
I now see who beat him, but I know nothing else really.Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#103Cejudo not getting the respect he deserves IMO.....guy looks freskishly roided LOL.....1 step ahead of the juice game....I expect him to overwhelm.....MM is the better standup but the pace cejudo will keep is going to be insanity....
---Somehow the ferg fight needs to become 5 rounds...Originally posted by Hugo de NaranjaCejudo and his coach are both arrogant clownsComment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#104Also-the more I think of the Sterling-Munhoz fight, I just see Sterling having a hard time winning walking backwards the entire time....he is great with distance and will get in and out OK, but overall it should begin to look like he is running (round 2-3) and Munhoz will take over....this is an AMAZING fight IMO....it will take the Sterlings best performance yet to pull this off.....not saying he cant....but for +100 Munhoz is the side to be on IMo.......he should be the one that is -120......KO power as well and its always a possibility he KO's/TKO's sterling.....I also feel that if Sterling goes to the ground.....he may pull guard and look for subs rather than try to stand....could he land a sub-sure-but in a 3 round fight against a body type of Munhoz, not AS likely.....and that's a round down most of the time...
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ThrillaSBR Posting Legend
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#105Cejudo can rest his ballsack on your forehead and there is nothing you can do about it.Originally posted by DemonataMe too man. I can't stand him!! I hope moraes kicks his penetrating head off!!!Comment
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