UFC on ESPN+ 8: Jacare vs. Hermansson (April 27, 2019)

**JIBBBY** · 04-27-19, 09:35 PM

I really like GLover as he is a good guy..

Happy for him not for my bet..

**Demonata** · 04-27-19, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

TDs were 1-1. Sandhagen probably did land more strikes (not to the extent the stat counter showed), and Lineker landed the better power. Close fight for sure. Super close. Both those guys are excellent.

So can lineker sue if 100% the stat counter was wrong?

**PaperTrail07** · 04-27-19, 09:36 PM

Appreciate it....

Thanks for the speedpay on the points

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Nice bet Papes you're paid in full.

**PaperTrail07** · 04-27-19, 09:37 PM

Agree--guy disrecpected glover-acted like a ass......then tapped in the second...

.QUOTE=JIBBBY;28591149]I really like GLover as he is a good guy..

Happy for him not for my bet..

[/QUOTE]

**bjpenn85** · 04-27-19, 09:38 PM

Glover should never had been a +150

**bjpenn85** · 04-27-19, 09:38 PM

I think my underdog picks are 100% for 2019.....maybe 99,9...

**Thor4140** · 04-27-19, 09:39 PM

Lets see how much punching bag Perry has improved. I hear it ever every fight from him yet he loses worse each fight. I like him a lot as i like characters but man he needs a win bad.

**Demonata** · 04-27-19, 09:41 PM

Alix oliviera is goimg to win. I call by flying knee

**jacharron17** · 04-27-19, 09:41 PM

Oliveira by decision is my pick! But Mike Perry by KO may be a good hedge.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 04-27-19, 09:41 PM

Added:
Souza Round 1 (+200) .75u

Added Hedge:
Perry ITD (+240) .5u

**JIBBBY** · 04-27-19, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Glover should never had been a +150

He's getting old and has been dropped before.. I disagree even though this is a good win...

He was facing a young buck tonight and weathered the storm..

**PaperTrail07** · 04-27-19, 09:47 PM

JIBB your pics are gusta and rumble in their prime LOL....this was a roidsman w zero notable wins and clear ground disadvantages lol

that's also the only 2 people to ever KO him...

**PaperTrail07** · 04-27-19, 09:51 PM

Olivera needs to throw a flying knee....

**Thor4140** · 04-27-19, 09:54 PM

i have cowboy up 377 to 110 in punches. lets see if im close

**Hugo de Naranja** · 04-27-19, 09:54 PM

Live Betting:
A. Oliveira+Perry Goes Distance (+175) .5u after R1

**JIBBBY** · 04-27-19, 10:02 PM

Nice toe bust there on Cowboy.. I know all about toe breaks..

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 04-27-19, 10:06 PM

Perry got this

**bjpenn85** · 04-27-19, 10:07 PM

Perry easily

**boss_of_um** · 04-27-19, 10:08 PM

boring fight. trying for KO? lol. not even close

**JIBBBY** · 04-27-19, 10:08 PM

Aggressors like John Lineker have been getting punked on the cards.. Would not be surprised at all if Cowboy gets the nod on the cards now.

**Shagdogy** · 04-27-19, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

So can lineker sue if 100% the stat counter was wrong?

The judges don't see it or use it so not sure why it would matter.

**JIBBBY** · 04-27-19, 10:10 PM

Perry gets it and JL doesn't.. Judges got it right this time..

John Lineker did more then Perry in the respective fights in comparison..

**PaperTrail07** · 04-27-19, 10:11 PM

Calls out covington OK OK>.....

**JIBBBY** · 04-27-19, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Calls out covington OK OK>.....

The minute Perry meets a strong wrestler he will end up on his back and get beat like a drum..

**Shagdogy** · 04-27-19, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

I don’t understand this narrative around this fight. It is no guarantee at all that Oliveira will take Perry down and do anything meaningful with it. Perry has proven tough to take down and tougher to keep down and actually do work against on the mat. Combine that with Oliveira who works more off strength and power rather than technique and I think we have a situation where Oliveira likely struggles to take Perry down and secure him on the mat, and could gas himself out trying.

When have we seen Perry taken down and worked early in a fight? I can’t recall it. Ponz is the only one in recent memory to get Perry down and secure him for any amount of time and he did so in round 3 of a very high volume fight, and he has much better cardio than Oliveira. I give Perry the cardio advantage over Oliveira too. I think Perry forces this fight to be a standup fight.

Damn I've had some bad breaks and been wrong about a lot lately, so I'm just gonna bump this right here and pat myself on the back for being right on with this little bit of analysis. Needed to finally be right about something.

**bjpenn85** · 04-27-19, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

He's getting old and has been dropped before.. I disagree even though this is a good win...

He was facing a young buck tonight and weathered the storm..

I think the opener should have been 1.67, and not 2.50

Glover is old, but he needed one takedown to win...you cant let anyone be 2.50 when one takeodwn is all you need.

Glover schools most people on the ground, he even schooled cirkunov.

HE SCHOOLED CIRKUNOV....think about that for a second.

Then he comes in as a +150 underdog....Glover has a glass chin, but...one takedown man.

Its not right.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 04-27-19, 10:14 PM

Added:
Hardy Submission (+2400) .25u

**Hugo de Naranja** · 04-27-19, 10:15 PM

Almost getting finished in the first round is "schooling" someone? You really damage your credibility with comments like this.

It was a nice comeback win from Glover. He weathered the storm after getting Cirkunov down.

**PaperTrail07** · 04-27-19, 10:16 PM

stood out to me when I saw the card at first glace, wont lie....for some reason people just don't respect him.....went 5 with JJ......ect don't see why.

Originally posted by bjpenn85

I think the opener should have been 1.67, and not 2.50

Glover is old, but he needed one takedown to win...you cant let anyone be 2.50 when one takeodwn is all you need.

Glover schools most people on the ground, he even schooled cirkunov.

HE SCHOOLED CIRKUNOV....think about that for a second.

Then he comes in as a +150 underdog....Glover has a glass chin, but...one takedown man.

Its not right.

**Demonata** · 04-27-19, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Aggressors like John Lineker have been getting punked on the cards.. Would not be surprised at all if Cowboy gets the nod on the cards now.

Why would cowboy get the nod? I thought mike perry landed way more strikes?

**JIBBBY** · 04-27-19, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Added:
Hardy Submission (+2400) .25u

In tailing.. Need all the help I can get now.. In for a benny.. All you Hugo.. Hope you get this!!!!!!!!!!

Taking the sub props against the boxers and strikers is always golden over time..

**PaperTrail07** · 04-27-19, 10:18 PM

why not...

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Added:
Hardy Submission (+2400) .25u

**Shagdogy** · 04-27-19, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

I think the opener should have been 1.67, and not 2.50

Glover is old, but he needed one takedown to win...you cant let anyone be 2.50 when one takeodwn is all you need.

Glover schools most people on the ground, he even schooled cirkunov.

HE SCHOOLED CIRKUNOV....think about that for a second.

Then he comes in as a +150 underdog....Glover has a glass chin, but...one takedown man.

Its not right.

Have watched that Cirkunov fight a number of times and that's a quit job. Or Cirkunov was hurt by something we can't see. I don't know. He put up NO fight once they hit the mat. Not even a little bit.

But I do agree that Glover is whooping dudes on the mat lately. His top position work is for real.

**bjpenn85** · 04-27-19, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

stood out to me when I saw the card at first glace, wont lie....for some reason people just don't respect him.....went 5 with JJ......ect don't see why.

Have to be careful listening to people. i agree.

**JIBBBY** · 04-27-19, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

Why would cowboy get the nod? I thought mike perry landed way more strikes?

Cowboy was touching him up the entire fight..