UFC 234: Whittaker vs. Gastelum (February 09, 2019)

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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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    UFC 234: Whittaker vs. Gastelum (February 09, 2019)


    Pay-per-view 10:00 pm ET
    Robert Whittaker vs Kelvin Gastelum (for middleweight title)
    Israel Adesanya vs Anderson Silva
    Ricky Simon vs Rani Yahya
    Dong Hyun Ma vs Devonte Smith
    Sam Alvey vs Jim Crute

    ESPN 8:00 pm ET
    Austin Arnett vs Shane Young
    Montana De La Rosa vs Nadia Kassem
    Kai Kara-France vs Raulian Paiva
    Teruto Ishihara vs Kyung Ho Kang

    UFC Fight Pass 6:30 pm ET
    Marcos Rosa vs Lando Vannata
    Callan Potter vs Jalin Turner
    Wuliji Buren vs Jonathan Martinez



  • jacharron17
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    #2
    Jim Crute at +113 is a steal IMO.
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    • bjpenn85
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      • 02-17-11
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      #3
      Montana del la rosaaaaa. Easy win.
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      • Demonata
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        #4
        Actually excited about this card!
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        • Teem
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          #5
          I gotta start going with my gut.
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          • Teem
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            #6
            Yahya for a dog play?
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            • UncleChael
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              #7
              For the main event. Flip a coin. "Heads" you bet Gastelum.
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              • jacharron17
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                #8
                Hammering the Under 1.5 Anderson Silva Israel Adesanya as soon as it comes out.
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                • HurlSweatPants
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                  #9
                  Would love to fade Groovy, but I have not a clue about Marcos "Dhalsim" Mariano, or the lower level affiliations he has been fighting for.

                  I see he is 6-4 but I don't recognize any of his opponents.
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                  • Teem
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                    #10
                    Looks like Yahya and Alvey are the only potential dog plays. I won't be on either of them though. Just gonna parlay a few favs. Maybe take a couple decent props.
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                    • firekillex
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                      #11
                      wonder how Whittakers chin is going to hold up after that last war he went through
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                      • bjpenn85
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                        #12
                        Shane Young is a couple of notch better than Austin Arnett. Austin Arnett has no business being in the UFC in the first place. He lost the fight on DWCS, but was given another chance due to damage accumulation which Dana White loves. Although hitting Brandon Davis with some nice timed right hands 3-4 times in round 2. he still lost that round, he still lost round 1, he still lost round 3. Ok, so he gets another shot.

                        This time he meets Sandhagen, as we all know, Sandhagen is just better than most fighters in the UFC, so what can you really take from this fight? The same story, Austin doesnt win round 1 or 2, and isnt close. He just gets beat up from bell to bell before he gets finished. BUT HE GETS ANOTHER SHOT.

                        So he meets Hakeem Dawodu, i typical black athletic west africa genes type of fighters. Very quick. Good striking overall. Obviously outstriked Arnett for three clear rounds....and pay attention, so far Arnett has not won one single round, up to this point. So he gets cut then? nah ah, no no... HE GETS ANOTHER SHOT???? Off course.

                        In his 4th ufc appearance he meats Bandenay. Terrible fighter. Loses off course 1th round as always, being inactive and showing off a complete lack of self-control lunging in and almost at a point is nearly finished. Wins round 2, very....VERY slightly.

                        Round 3. Arnett fights with no regard for the fact that he has gone 1-10 in terms of rounds! No sense of urgency, from maybe halfway in round 3, goes for a takedown, and secures the round because of ground control.

                        MY focking god, what a terrible fighter this Austin Arnett is.

                        Shange young is at least a ufc level fighter, he has good striking, he is offensively orientated, he wants to win, he is athletic, he has shown to go to dec with Volkanovsky he has showed us something. Arnett needs a lucky punch or a sub, really fast. Or he will get finished within 2 rounds.

                        Whatever skill youre looking for, Arnett doesnt have it. No athleticism, no speed, 0 aggresion. No wrestling pedigree. He doesnt belong, like at all. Where not talking Te edwards level, were waaaaaaaaay under that level. Were talking a guy which barely is top 150-200 in the world.

                        Shane Young should be -400/-500.
                        Last edited by bjpenn85; 02-04-19, 09:18 AM.
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                        • Teem
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                          • 04-11-17
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bjpenn85
                          Shane Young is a couple of notch better than Austin Arnett. Austin Arnett has no business being in the UFC in the first place. He lost the fight on DWCS, but was given another chance due to damage accumulation which Dana White loves. Although hitting Brandon Davis with some nice timed right hands 3-4 times in round 2. he still lost that round, he still lost round 1, he still lost round 3. Ok, so he gets another shot.

                          This time he meets Sandhagen, as we all know, Sandhagen is just better than most fighters in the UFC, so what can you really take from this fight? The same story, Austin doesnt win round 1 or 2, and isnt close. He just gets beat up from bell to bell before he gets finished. BUT HE GETS ANOTHER SHOT.

                          So he meets Hakeem Dawodu, i typical black athletic west africa genes type of fighters. Very quick. Good striking overall. Obviously outstriked Arnett for three clear rounds....and pay attention, so far Arnett has not won one single round, up to this point. So he gets cut then? nah ah, no no... HE GETS ANOTHER SHOT???? Off course.

                          In his 4th ufc appearance he meats Bandenay. Terrible fighter. Loses off course 1th round as always, being inactive and showing off a complete lack of self-control lunging in and almost at a point is nearly finished. Wins round 2, very....VERY slightly.

                          Round 3. Arnett fights with no regard for the fact that he has gone 1-10 in terms of rounds! No sense of urgency, from maybe halfway in round 3, goes for a takedown, and secures the round because of ground control.

                          MY focking god, what a terrible fighter this Austin Arnett is.

                          Shange young is at least a ufc level fighter, he has good striking, he is offensively orientated, he wants to win, he is athletic, he has shown to go to dec with Volkanovsky he has showed us something. Arnett needs a lucky punch or a sub, really fast. Or he will get finished within 2 rounds.

                          Whatever skill youre looking for, Arnett doesnt have it. No athleticism, no speed, 0 aggresion. No wrestling pedigree. He doesnt belong, like at all. Where not talking Te edwards level, were waaaaaaaaay under that level. Were talking a guy which barely is top 150-200 in the world.

                          Shane Young should be -400/-500.

                          haha yeah should probably hop on that -280 before others start realizing this.
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                          • bjpenn85
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Teem
                            haha yeah should probably hop on that -280 before others start realizing this.
                            Other plays for me (in parlays):

                            - Montana de la rosa
                            - K.H. Kang
                            - Israel
                            - Shange young

                            If were looking at their opponent in these matchup, all of these fighters have beaten better fighters than their opponent, several times. If any of these fighters loose, its a gigantic upset. None of these will loose lets say a narrow dec. Cant happen, wont happen.

                            Who do you like?
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                            • JIBBBY
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                              • 12-10-09
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                              #15
                              Quick event turn around.. I like this!!!


                              At a quick glance I think I will be fading Sam Alvey.. Crute by decision probably..
                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-04-19, 12:22 PM.
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                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                • 04-14-16
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                Would love to fade Groovy, but I have not a clue about Marcos "Dhalsim" Mariano, or the lower level affiliations he has been fighting for.

                                I see he is 6-4 but I don't recognize any of his opponents.
                                Dhalsim sucksssss
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                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                  • 04-14-16
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                  Other plays for me (in parlays):

                                  - Montana de la rosa
                                  - K.H. Kang
                                  - Israel
                                  - Shange young

                                  If were looking at their opponent in these matchup, all of these fighters have beaten better fighters than their opponent, several times. If any of these fighters loose, its a gigantic upset. None of these will loose lets say a narrow dec. Cant happen, wont happen.

                                  Who do you like?
                                  I like all four of these. Think DLR and Young are best values. I like Kang ITD and Sub
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                                  • bjpenn85
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                    Quick event turn around.. I like this!!!



                                    At a quick glance I think I will be fading Sam Alvey.. Crute by decision probably..
                                    I watched tape on Crute i dont know....its an vast experience gap + Crute wont get this fight to the ground because Sam Alveys tdd is probably one of the best ever. Sam Alvey sucks, but he still hangs around in the UFC for a reason. He beats guys he shouldnt often. So...Is Crute sooooo goood, that this is worth betting? IMO, no. But i can see the urge after finding a bet...
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                                    • bjpenn85
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                      I like all four of these. Think DLR and Young are best values. I like Kang ITD and Sub
                                      I agree. This is my thoughts exactly. I also like DLR and Young a tad bit better than Isreal and Khang. I just like safe bets, so im parlaying the shit of Khan and DLR and young. Also have some carrying over from last event.
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                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                        • 08-29-08
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                                        #20
                                        damn right ...way more skills
                                        Originally posted by Teem
                                        Yahya for a dog play?
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                                        • Teem
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                                          • 04-11-17
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                          Other plays for me (in parlays):

                                          - Montana de la rosa
                                          - K.H. Kang
                                          - Israel
                                          - Shange young

                                          If were looking at their opponent in these matchup, all of these fighters have beaten better fighters than their opponent, several times. If any of these fighters loose, its a gigantic upset. None of these will loose lets say a narrow dec. Cant happen, wont happen.

                                          Who do you like?
                                          Yeah I'm gonna be on De La Rosa and Young as well. Gonna also be on Vannata, Kara-France, and maybe Turner. Although, I don't know much about Turner. And I'll be on Whittaker. Maybe take props in some of these. I'm not sure yet.
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                                          • JIBBBY
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                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 83686

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                            I watched tape on Crute i dont know....its an vast experience gap + Crute wont get this fight to the ground because Sam Alveys tdd is probably one of the best ever. Sam Alvey sucks, but he still hangs around in the UFC for a reason. He beats guys he shouldnt often. So...Is Crute sooooo goood, that this is worth betting? IMO, no. But i can see the urge after finding a bet...
                                            I need to watch more tape on Crute, just remember Alvey is slow of foot, can easily be out pointed and grinded on..

                                            Alvey KO is always a possibility like you suggest BJ, I won't argue that.. He's got some pop..








                                            He also looks so stiff and beatable in most fights though..




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                                            • bjpenn85
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                              I need to watch more tape on Crute, just remember Alvey is slow of foot, can easily be out pointed and grinded on..

                                              Alvey KO is always a possibility like you suggest BJ, I won't argue that.. He's got some pop..








                                              He also looks so stiff and beatable in most fights though..




                                              he does. thats whats so difficult with alvey. You always want to fade him. Is Crute better than Gian Villante, or at the level of Emeev? I dont know, if you have an opinion i wont stop ya. I just think its a tuf call. If its easier ways to earn money, i rather do that.
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                                              • bjpenn85
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Teem
                                                Yeah I'm gonna be on De La Rosa and Young as well. Gonna also be on Vannata, Kara-France, and maybe Turner. Although, I don't know much about Turner. And I'll be on Whittaker. Maybe take props in some of these. I'm not sure yet.
                                                Havent checked out France, turner etc, whittaker inside?
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                                                • UncleChael
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                  For the main event. Flip a coin. "Heads" you bet Gastelum.
                                                  The thing about my coin though is... it has "heads" on both sides. #TellEmUncleChaelSentYa #FeedThePeasants
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                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                    #26
                                                    Big on Whittaker He wont come up short in Aus...
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                                                    • bjpenn85
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                      Big on Whittaker He wont come up short in Aus...
                                                      He needs to be rocked and TKoed or submitted, wont loose a dec in a country where whittaker sold out tickets quicker than Rolling stones. Do you think those judges will be biased, yes or no?

                                                      So whittaker might be a ok play as the hometown advantage will be way higher than usual. But as a stright bet, not in a parlay? Dont know. And i wouldnt go big.
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                        Big on Whittaker He wont come up short in Aus...
                                                        I like Whittaker as well in this match up.. Don't think Gas can beat him standing or hold him down on the ground. Whittaker better in every area.. Question is will he finish Gas or take him to decision and win that way?
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                                                        • UncleChael
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                                                          #29
                                                          You guys will catch on sooner or later, Gastelummmmmm
                                                          Who else is 2-0 in main events this year?
                                                          Last edited by UncleChael; 02-05-19, 07:10 PM.
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                                                          • brooks85
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                                                            #30
                                                            spider is a judge or something on some show right now called The worlds best
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                                                            • PaperTrail07
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                                                              #31
                                                              I don't think they will need to be....but the Brazil effect could be big here in Aus as well....
                                                              Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                              He needs to be rocked and TKoed or submitted, wont loose a dec in a country where whittaker sold out tickets quicker than Rolling stones. Do you think those judges will be biased, yes or no?

                                                              So whittaker might be a ok play as the hometown advantage will be way higher than usual. But as a stright bet, not in a parlay? Dont know. And i wouldnt go big.
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                                                              • Thor4140
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                                Big on Whittaker He wont come up short in Aus...
                                                                That is what Gus thought in Sweden
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                                                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                  That is what Gus thought in Sweden
                                                                  Against Glover when he whooped his ass?
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                                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                    • 04-14-16
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                    spider is a judge or something on some show right now called The worlds best
                                                                    Hey Brooks, can I get the BetPoints from our Jones+DC Rematch Before 12.31.18 bet? I had Won’t Rematch by that date (-400), 400 to Win 100.
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                                                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      All the Aus fighters lost last time....wont happen here
                                                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                      Against Glover when he whooped his ass?
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