UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till (September 08, 2018)

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Till made weight at 169 pounds. Woodley first weigh in was 171 pounds. Woodley does not look happy. He took his shorts off and made weight at 170.

never a doubt..now he can rehydrate and chow down on some Texas BBQ

[Kermit]

Brett Okamoto ✔ @bokamotoESPN



Nicco Montaño will not fight at UFC 228 tomorrow, after being hospitalized this morning. Valentina Shevchenko just made weight in Dallas, but I’m told the co-main event is off.
10:31 AM - Sep 7, 2018

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[JAKEPEAVY21]

Brett Okamoto ✔ @bokamotoESPN



Nicco Montaño will not fight at UFC 228 tomorrow, after being hospitalized this morning. Valentina Shevchenko just made weight in Dallas, but I’m told the co-main event is off.
10:31 AM - Sep 7, 2018

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unreal this keeps happening to Valentina

[JIBBBY]

Till made weight at 169 pounds. Woodley first weigh in was 171 pounds. Woodley does not look happy. He took his shorts off and made weight at 170.

Gotta wonder how drained Till will be now? This is a 5 round fight.. Probably was a massive weight cut for him as usual..

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Gotta wonder how drained Till will be now? This is a 5 round fight.. Probably was a massive weight cut for him as usual..

Woodley cuts a lot of weight as well.

[Teem]

What are your guys' thoughts on this 4 leg parlay?...

Price ML -105
Aldana ML -120
Andrade by DEC -122
Neal/Camacho FSR2 -245

[turbozed]

^
Price and Razak is a coinflip fight where each KO'ing each other is imo equally likely.

[Teem]

Thinking about taking Byrd by sub at +160 to swap out for Price ML.

[PaperTrail07]

IMO Dodson at +$ is never a bad bet.... he loses it will b fuckn close

[PaperTrail07]

IMO the card you pay for---well some people---just got better w that

[PaperTrail07]

Camacho is the play right......his skills are better.....most tested, tough chin....+165....im in...

[Demonata]

Main card is totally shit

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

^sexist

[firekillex]

not even 1% surprised montano found a way outta this fight , what a joke

[rsynweap84]

Just strip that coward b!tch of the belt, she ain’t even close to Valentina in skill.

[firekillex]

Just strip that coward b!tch of the belt, she ain’t even close to Valentina in skill.

usually i wouldnt agree to something like this , but if she needs more then 2 months give Valentina the belt its obvious shes a fake champ and Valentina will smoke her

[JIBBBY]

Main card is totally shit

I have to agree with this.. Till and T-wood should be fun but the rest of the fights aren't all that in the main card.. Prelims may be better then the main card...

http://www.ufc.com/

[WolfTicketDealer]

Camacho is the play right......his skills are better.....most tested, tough chin....+165....im in...

His cardio is not great and he is very hittable. I think if you're going to play Camacho you might as well play him Round 1. Personally I have Neal here.

[Kermit]

Aaron Bronsteter @aaronbronsteter



BREAKING: Dana White tells @TSN_Sports that the UFC women's flyweight title is now vacant.

Valentina Shevchenko will fight an opponent to be determined at a later date. They have an opponent in mind, but nothing is confirmed.

My guess is Joanna.

[Sanity Check]

Valentina Shevchenko, Khabib Nurmagomedov, Michael Venom Page, Zhabit Magomedsharipov.

You can't criticize the level of competition they've faced.

They all have trouble finding fights cuz no one wants to fight them.

[Hugo de Naranja]

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Price and Razak is a coinflip fight where each KO'ing each other is imo equally likely.

Are you on Price KO/TKO at (+365) then?

[Wohlford]

Valentina Shevchenko, Khabib Nurmagomedov, Michael Venom Page, Zhabit Magomedsharipov.

You can't criticize the level of competition they've faced.

They all have trouble finding fights cuz no one wants to fight them.

I don't follow Bellator very closely, but I'm very skeptical that this is true in the case of MVP.

If MVP were actually competitively driven, it seems like he could have gotten a title shot at welterweight or middleweight any time he wanted one in the last three years. Instead, he fights bums.

Khabib's competitive resume is easily criticized since he pulled a Nicco Montano / Amanda Nunes pull-out maneuver against Tony Ferguson. He deserves plenty of blame for that.

[Sanity Check]

I don't follow Bellator very closely, but I'm very skeptical that this is true in the case of MVP.

Paul Daley chose to fight Jon Fitch over MVP.

When fighters who are "striking specialists" select a guy who spams takedowns 24/7 over the guy they know will stand and kickbox with them.

Maybe you have to wonder what their motivations are.

Khabib vs Ferguson was scheduled 4 times and cancelled 4 times. Its enough to say Khabib wasn't the one who pulled out of the fight each and every time.

[Shagdogy]

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Price and Razak is a coinflip fight where each KO'ing each other is imo equally likely.

I would edge the KO likelihood just slightly to Alhassan, but yeah it's a very tough fight to bet. I just think Alhassan has the better track record of getting the KO finish and his chin hasn't looked vulnerable in the way Price's has at times (dropped twice by Morono, and rocked badly by Luque).

[Shagdogy]

Thinking about taking Byrd by sub at +160 to swap out for Price ML.

A lot of ppl underestimate Stewart IMO, probably mostly due to his lacking skills on the mat, but he is very athletic and if he could add some IQ to his game (and he did against Spicely) then maybe he can be something. That said, if Byrd gets this fight secured on the mat he should play games with Stewart.

[Shagdogy]

Camacho is the play right......his skills are better.....most tested, tough chin....+165....im in...

Camacho better hurt Neal real quick or else the volume, hand speed, long combos of Neal are gonna start racking up big time. Camacho much too hittable, and Neal finally gets a fight where he either isn't undersized or giving up reach. Camacho has an excellent chin and he's super fun to watch from a fan's perspective, but I think there's a solid chance he gets TKO'd here.

[Shagdogy]

Quick thoughts on Dodson/Rivera: Not trying to jump off the Rivera bandwagon off one KO loss, but I think I have Dodson in this one by the slightest margin. I just think he may be a bad style matchup for Rivera. Rivera loves to plant his feet and fire super fast combos on the counter, but Dodson is so good at staying outside and darting in and out, potshotting with his left hand. Rivera will have to time him up or I think his counters will miss a lot and be too late, even as fast as he is. Dodson is a pro at this getting in and out game, changing rhythms and being hard to time, so he may be able to pull it off.

If Dodson does get hit on the counter, has the stronger chin of the two and should be able to take shots from Rivera. On the flip side, Dodson has the more proven KO power in his hands and we have seen Rivera's chin get tagged a little in the past. I think we see a standup battle where Dodson looks to stay outside and dart in and out with his left hand, while Rivera plants his feet and looks to counter. IMO it should be Dodson who starts to score more with his broken rhythm and the fact that he will be willing to go first. He's worth a small shot at these dog odds I think.

[Sanity Check]

I would edge the KO likelihood just slightly to Alhassan, but yeah it's a very tough fight to bet. I just think Alhassan has the better track record of getting the KO finish and his chin hasn't looked vulnerable in the way Price's has at times (dropped twice by Morono, and rocked badly by Luque).

Maybe its my imagination, but seeing Niko Price @ weigh ins and in interviews, he looks mentally unstable. (Imagine that remark coming from me, the guy Thrilla claims is "insane".)

Just the look in his eyes and his oddball antics. Does he always look and behave that way?

It looks like he's trying to act like Conor McGregor. Trying to be like Conor usually means someone is about to lose their fight.

Quick thoughts on Dodson/Rivera: Not trying to jump off the Rivera bandwagon off one KO loss, but I think I have Dodson in this one by the slightest margin. I just think he may be a bad style matchup for Rivera. Rivera loves to plant his feet and fire super fast combos on the counter, but Dodson is so good at staying outside and darting in and out, potshotting with his left hand. Rivera will have to time him up or I think his counters will miss a lot and be too late, even as fast as he is. Dodson is a pro at this getting in and out game, changing rhythms and being hard to time, so he may be able to pull it off.

If Dodson does get hit on the counter, has the stronger chin of the two and should be able to take shots from Rivera. On the flip side, Dodson has the more proven KO power in his hands and we have seen Rivera's chin get tagged a little in the past. I think we see a standup battle where Dodson looks to stay outside and dart in and out with his left hand, while Rivera plants his feet and looks to counter. IMO it should be Dodson who starts to score more with his broken rhythm and the fact that he will be willing to go first. He's worth a small shot at these dog odds I think.

I wonder if Dodson hurt his hand or is struggling with hand injuries. He doesn't throw hard with bad intent anymore the way he did earlier in his career when he was knocking everyone out.

[turbozed]

I would edge the KO likelihood just slightly to Alhassan, but yeah it's a very tough fight to bet. I just think Alhassan has the better track record of getting the KO finish and his chin hasn't looked vulnerable in the way Price's has at times (dropped twice by Morono, and rocked badly by Luque).

I haven't watched tape but my initial lean was Razak too. Now that his price improved significantly, I might have to take a closer look.

[Shagdogy]

I haven't watched tape but my initial lean was Razak too. Now that his price improved significantly, I might have to take a closer look.

9 wins. 9 first round KO's. He's a finisher for sure. I just trust his power+chin combo more than Price's. But it's still not a fight to bet confidently either way that's for sure.

[Shagdogy]

Unpopular opinion because Andrade is a damn beast, but I think the line on KK has some value. She can take a shot pretty well and she keeps her volume high and lands a decent amount of shots. I think there's a chance that she gains momentum late and starts to shift the tide. Whether or not she can do it soon enough to win a decision? I don't know. She also has to stay off her back which isn't easy vs. Andrade. I definitely favor Andrade, but I may take a small stab at the KK line.

[Sirius]

Unpopular opinion because Andrade is a damn beast, but I think the line on KK has some value. She can take a shot pretty well and she keeps her volume high and lands a decent amount of shots. I think there's a chance that she gains momentum late and starts to shift the tide. Whether or not she can do it soon enough to win a decision? I don't know. She also has to stay off her back which isn't easy vs. Andrade. I definitely favor Andrade, but I may take a small stab at the KK line.

I agree...huge value.
If Karolina avoids take downs she wins...

[Sirius]

Woodley talking about smashing his opponent heading into this as he did with Thompson and Maia but produced 3 straight decisions -- I cannot believe he went to a 5 round decision with Maia...that was bad.

I am leaning Woodley but he's going to get out struck stats wise if he doesn't finish...

[turbozed]

Unpopular opinion because Andrade is a damn beast, but I think the line on KK has some value. She can take a shot pretty well and she keeps her volume high and lands a decent amount of shots. I think there's a chance that she gains momentum late and starts to shift the tide. Whether or not she can do it soon enough to win a decision? I don't know. She also has to stay off her back which isn't easy vs. Andrade. I definitely favor Andrade, but I may take a small stab at the KK line.

It's hard to see Andrade losing here. At the best KK may win a round. I took Andrade decision which was about -115. A good performance by KK here means it gets to the scorecards but I can't see what she can do to stop Andrades forward pressure.

[Sanity Check]

BTW did anyone notice Darren Till has a tattoo of his girlfriend (or ex girlfriend?) on his left arm?



Brave soul.