UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till (September 08, 2018)

[RussianMike]

Miller was actually diagnosed with Lyme Disease between UFC 196 and UFC 200. After the diagnosis, he went on a Three Fight Win Streak (Gomi, Lauzon, Alves) before his current Four Fight Losing Streak (Poirier, Pettis, Trinaldo, Hooker).

https://mmajunkie.com/2016/07/before-lyme-disease-diagnosis-jim-miller-was-ready-to-hang-up-his-gloves-at-ufc-200

I think Miller's poor run of form has more to do with very tough opposition than the Lyme Disease itself.

Not to mention his showing against Dustin Porier. That fight could have easily gone the other way. Was by no means anyhow a strike against Miller, other than on his record.

[RussianMike]

This is the net effect of european pro immigration policies you supported.



Here's another source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42557828

London's homicide rate surpassed new york's for the 1st time ever due to hordes of illegal immigrants entering europe: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/london-...ife-gun-crime/

This is your fault. You supported this. All of this rape, violence and crime is on your head.

Alex Jones warned you. He said unregulated immigration is poor policy. You didn't listen.

Maybe I'll consider the possibility of you having half a brain when you manage to comprehend these basic points.

Did somebody on the card get molested? Whats up with this politico garbage in the thread?

[RussianMike]

I know some sharps that really like Till. They might've been putting in their bets today. Aside from that not sure.

Maybe they realized Till sounded like he was pretty much gonna say fook it again, and come into the fight weighing 200lb.

[Teem]

Do you guys trust Rivera/Dodson to GTD more than Neal/Camacho?... Neal/Camacho have a line for Fight starts R3 at -124.

[Thrilla]

Did somebody on the card get molested? Whats up with this politico garbage in the thread?

No he is just proving everyone who is sane that Sanity Check is actually insane.

Who in his right mind would give credit to anything smear merchant Alex Jones says.

His audience is angry rightwing low-iq White folk.

@inSanity Check you already felt that negative way about immigrants. Alex Jones is just telling you what you want to hear. It makes you feel good.

Unregulated immigration my ass.
You think just because mainstream media doesn't spread these lies you found a real source of info and are now part of an elite group that knows the truth? elite group of dumbdumbs yes.

[JIBBBY]

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170 lbs.: Diego Sanchez vs. Craig White
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Diego Sanchez (27-11) has had a, well, self-descriptive go of things lately, suffering crushing knockout losses in three of his last four fights. The last one was perhaps the most brutal yet, a savage elbow from Matt Brown that knocked the legendarily durable Sanchez into another dimension.
“The Nightmare” will surrender four inches of height and reach to “The Thundercat.”
Craig White (14-8) answered the call when Gunnar Nelson withdrew from UFC Fight Night 130, stepping up to fight Neil Magny on short notice. Things didn’t exactly go swimmingly for him, as Magny dropped him with a knee before pounding him out.
He has never gone pat the second round as a professional or amateur.
This is about the most winnable fight in UFC’s Welterweight division for Sanchez and it’s still a toss-up. White is a below-average wrestler who relies on submissions off of his back, which is one of the few things Sanchez can still deal with. That said, White’s a fair bit larger than Sanchez and “The Nightmare” can’t take a shot anymore
It’s really going to come down to whether White can catch him coming in with a knee or one of the winging punches he enjoys, because otherwise Sanchez still has what it takes to sit in someone’s guard for three rounds. I say he pulls it off, using his size to offset the wrestling issues and clipping his fading foe with something gnarly on the way in.
Prediction: White via first-round technical knockout

155 lbs.: Jim Miller vs. Alex White

Jim Miller (28-12) — closing in on his tenth year on the Octagon — enters the cage this weekend on a four-fight losing streak, the longest of his career. His last fight saw him face fast-rising Kiwi Daniel Hooker and survive three minutes before eating a nasty knee to the face.
He stands four inches shorter than Alex White (12-3), though their reach is the same.
White has struggled to find consistency in the UFC since debuting with an 88-second smashing of Estevan Payan, losing four of his next six. He’s currently 1-2 since moving to Lightweight, a stoppage of Mitch Clarke sandwiched between losses to Tony Martin and James Krause. He has knocked out and submitted five opponents apiece.
Miller’s a strange case in that he hasn’t shown any super obvious physical decline, but his game just doesn’t work anymore. His only wins since 2015 were a knockout of a completely shot Takanori Gomi, a bogus decision over Joe Lauzon, and a win over Thiago Alves wherein “The Pitbull” came in seven pounds overweight.
On the other side is White, a generalist with solid punching power, but nothing particularly outstanding in his game. I’d pick the Miller of 2014 to smoke him, but that’s not who he’s facing here. White’s punching power and Miller’s iffy takedowns allow the former to rack up the damage on the feet and earn the win.
Prediction: White via unanimous decision

135 lbs.: Irene Aldana vs. Lucie Pudilova

Irene Aldana (8-4) took home “Fight of the Night” in her Octagon debut against Leslie Smith, but couldn’t pull out the win against either her or Katlyn Chookagian her next time out. She finally managed to enter the UFC win column in January with a decision over Talita Bernardo in St. Louis.
Five of her seven stoppage wins have come by first-round knockout.
Lucia Pudilova (8-2) got the chance to avenge her sole career defeat in her Octagon debut, but couldn’t quite topple Lina Lansberg despite inflicting some horrendous swelling. She’s since righted the ship with decisions over Ji Yeon Kim and Sarah Moras, extending her current run to 5-1.
She has scored two wins each by (technical) knockout and submission.
Pudilova isn’t anywhere near as much of a gimme win as Bethe Correia would have been, but she’s still someone Aldana should dominate. The Mexican bruiser has shown difficulties with strong wrestling and extreme pressure, neither of which Pudilova is likely to offer, and she’s the harder puncher by a fair margin.
Though I’m still not sure Aldana will ever become more than a fun action fighter, that’s all she really needs to be to come out on top. So long as she stays at her preferred range, she boxes up her foe on her way to a mid-round stoppage.
Prediction: Aldana via second-round technical knockout

125 lbs.: Ryan Benoit vs. Roberto Sanchez

Ryan Benoit (10-5) made waves in 2015 when, after scoring “Fight of the Night” in a losing effort against Josh Sampo, he defied +500 odds to knock out Sergio Pettis at UFC 185. He’s alternated losses and wins since, most recently knocking out local favorite Ashkan Mokhtarian in Sydney.
He has knocked out eight professional foes and submitted one other.
Roberto Sanchez (8-1) took on fellow unbeaten prospect Joseph Morales in his Octagon debut, ultimately getting dropped and choked out late in the first round. “Little Fury” came back strong against Joby Sanchez, whom he submitted in less than two minutes.
All but one of his wins have come by either rear-naked choke or armbar.
Though Benoit packs some of the heaviest hands in the division, both his striking technique and his takedown defense have continued to lag behind. Fredy Serrano and Brandon Moreno dragged him to the mat a combined 10 times and he struggled with Mokhtarian’s movements in the early going.
Not a good sign against a quick, dangerous takedown and submission artist.
Benoit throws bombs and Sanchez got his clock cleaned by Morales, but I don’t believe Benoit can land a game-changing punch before Sanchez gets in on his hips, moves to the back, and chokes him out.
Prediction: Sanchez via first-round submission
As an aside, as I was finishing up this article, Jarred Brooks announced on his Instagram that Benoit was out and that he had taken his place. At the time of submission, however, I could not find confirmation from UFC, and since I’d already written up this particular fight, I’m going to leave it up. If Brooks does wind up subbing in, I’ve got him beating Sanchez by unanimous decision.

170 lbs.: Frank Camacho vs. Geoffrey Neal

Frank Camacho (21-6) has been nothing if not entertaining during his Octagon tenure, winning “Fight of the Night” against Li Jingliang, Damien Brown and Drew Dober. The former The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) hopeful is just 1-2 in that stretch, but fought his way to a controversial decision loss against Dober his last time out.
Despite his grappling base, “The Crank” has knocked out 15 professional opponents.
Geoffrey Neal (9-2) earned a spot on “Contender Series” just 11 days after his previous win, showing no ill effects from the quick turnaround en route to stopping Chase Waldon in 116 seconds. His Octagon debut was equally successful, a first-round submission of Brian Camozzi.
“Handz of Steel” stands two inches taller than Camacho and will have as many inches of reach.
Camacho is a badass and I’m always happy to see him on my screen, but I just don’t think that free-swinging style of his can work against larger, stronger men like Neal. “Handz of Steel” is more than happy to trade leather and has the length, durability and power to come out on top.
There’s a difference between going life-and-death with natural Lightweights and duking it out with a guy who can compete at Middleweight. Unless Camacho can get his wrestling going and bring those Brazilian jiu-jitsu chops of his to bear, Neal outslugs him in a terrific opener for the evening.
Prediction: Neal via unanimous decision


115 lbs.: Carla Esparza vs. Tatiana Suarez

Carla Esparza (13-5) bounced back from losses to Joanna Jedrzejczyk and Randa Markos to win two straight, including an upset of Cynthia Calvillo at UFC 219. Once again an underdog in her next match against Claudia Gadelha at UFC 225, she fought the former top contender to a contentious split decision loss.
She is five inches shorter than Tatiana Suarez (6-0) and will give up four inches of reach.
Suarez rampaged through The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 23 and has looked similarly unstoppable in the Octagon, going 3-0 in her UFC tenure. Her last appearance saw her dominate fellow top prospect Alexa Grasso, submitting her in less than three minutes.
Three of her four professional mixed martial arts (MMA) stoppage wins have come by submission.
On paper, this looks like Esparza vs. Calvillo all over again, the underestimated veteran against a younger, ostensibly more athletic challenger whose areas of expertise match Esparza’s own. The difference here is that Suarez’s wrestling pedigree is in a whole different dimension from Esparza’s or Calvillo’s — she was on track for the Olympics before she got injured.
If she wants you down, you’re going down.
That’s the key: Esparza beat Calvillo with unexpectedly good striking. Suarez is going to wrestle with her and all signs point to her dominating in that area. Esparza’s still a truly elite Strawweight and has a big enough bag of tricks to make this interesting, but I say Suarez overpowers her on the ground for a dominant three rounds.
Prediction: Suarez via unanimous decision

135 lbs.: Aljamain Sterling vs. Cody Stamann

Aljamain Sterling (14-3) — fresh off of a one-sided win over former champ Renan Barao — wound up on the wrong end of one of 2017’s “Knockouts of the Year” when he leaned into a knee from Marlon Moraes. “The Funk Master” has since bounced back with another wide decision over then-unbeaten Bret Johns in Atlantic City.
Six of his eight stoppage wins have come by submission, four of them by rear-naked choke.
After an entertaining win over Terrion Ware in his UFC debut, Cody Stamann (17-1) turned his sights toward more notable prey, ending his 2017 campaign with an upset of top prospect Tom Duquesnoy at UFC 216. Five months later, he survived a disastrous first round to pull out another split decision over the returning Bryan Caraway.
He’s only one inch shorter than Sterling, but will give up seven inches of reach.
I keep picking against Stamann and he keeps winning, but the sunk cost fallacy doesn’t intimidate me. Sterling has the top-notch wrestling to control any ground engagements and his prodigious reach advantage should allow him to kick with impunity. Further, he’s not going to burn himself out early the way Duquesnoy did, and the variety of his attack means he won’t be as predictable as Caraway was in the later rounds.
Stamann’s tendency to surprise will have to save him here, as the stylistic and physical edges go Sterling’s way. “The Funk Master” will struggle to put away Stamann, but should mix his kicks and takedown entries to take a clear decision.
Prediction: Sterling via unanimous decision

135 lbs.: Jimmie Rivera vs. John Dodson

Jimmie Rivera (21-2) brought a seven-year undefeated streak into his Octagon debut and promptly added five more wins to it, including handing Urijah Faber the first non-title defeat of his professional career. Unfortunately, it took Marlon Moraes just 33 seconds to end the streak via switch kick to the face.
He’ll have an inch of height and two inches of reach on “The Magician.”
John Dodson (20-9) made the move to Bantamweight after his second loss to Demetrious Johnson, going 3-2 while alternating wins and losses. Following the second split decision loss of that run, Dodson took on the always-dangerous Pedro Munhoz and used his customary potshotting style to bank two rounds.
He has scored nine (technical) knockout wins as a professional, including five in UFC.
Sometimes I think about how good John Dodson could be if he’d just develop his right hand. It’s a frustrating thought exercise. He’s blessed with so much power and speed in his left hand that he’s happy to just dart in with it or try to catch people with it on the counter. He never sets it up, never uses his wrestling to open new opportunities for it, and it’s gotten predictable.
In Rivera, Dodson faces a longer, crisper boxer who can maintain distance with his jab and consistently outwork his foe. Sheer speed has diminishing returns, especially if it’s used in the same way every time. I expect “The Magician” to struggle at range as he did against Marlon Moraes, landing enough eye-catching straight lefts to sway a judge, but ultimately walking away empty-handed once again.
Prediction: Rivera by split decision

185 lbs.: Charles Byrd vs. Darren Stewart

It took longer than expected, but Charles Byrd (10-4) finally impressed Dana White enough to earn a contract after two submission wins on the Contender Series. He made the most of his opportunity by making short work of John Phillips in London.
He stands two inches shorter than his British foe at 5’10.”
Darren Stewart (8-3) didn’t exactly hit the ground running in UFC, losing three of his first four bouts and settling for a “No Contest” in the other because of a headbutt. His back against the wall, Stewart came up huge in Liverpool with a technical knockout of Eric Spicely.
“The Dentist” has stopped six opponents with strikes, four in the first round.
Even with his ugly record, I’m genuinely impressed by Stewart’s improvement during his time in the Octagon. And that’s the reason it’s a shame he’s going to lose this — not only can Byrd hold his own on the feet with his speed and power, he’s got a much more developed submission game than “The Dentist,” who wrestles well offensively but leaves himself too open.
Stewart needs a massive punch to turn the tide, and though he’s certainly capable of delivering it, the variety in Byrd’s game will keep him from ever getting comfortable. Byrd mixes it up on the feet long enough to set up a takedown, after which it’s just a matter of time until Stewart taps.
Prediction: Byrd via first-round submission


Current UFC “Prelims” Prediction Record for 2018: 119-57

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Till likely now to remain the fav going into the fight which means Woodley will now be the underdog in 4 of 5 title fights

[Thrilla]

Watching now. Afraid these two Brits could be biased towards Till.

[JIBBBY]

Till likely now to remain the fav going into the fight which means Woodley will now be the underdog in 4 of 5 title fights

Woodley has been money.. The trend should continue in this fight as well.

T-Wood hasn't lost in 6 fights and or in the last 4 years..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tyron-Woodley-42605

[Thrilla]

Woodley the most misinterpreted fighter.

[Thrilla]

Jibbby!

Give your fellow ignorant bigot Trump tard rightwing nutjob 'Sanity Check' some back up! He is being owned in this thread by the libtards. Sheeeesh!

[JIBBBY]

Jibbby!

Give your fellow ignorant bigot Trump tard rightwing nutjob 'Sanity Check' some back up! He is getting hammered in this thread by the libtards. Sheeeesh!

Part of the reason I don't post as much in these event threads anymore is because of people like you Thrilla making it political.. Take that shiiiit to the Players Lounge or political section.. No one wants to read your crap about Trump and Hillary in this thread..

This is MMA!!!!!

[Thrilla]

You just made that up. What happened to seeking balance in your life for the time being?

Oh and not to mention the sbr pt classic phrase...you probably are a "broke dikk fukk."

[Thrilla]

Uncle Chael predicts

[Wohlford]

I know some sharps that really like Till. They might've been putting in their bets today. Aside from that not sure.

Why would "sharps" start firing on Till -110 when Till at plus money was available for a couple of weeks?

Did some books just increase their limits significantly as the fight approached?

[Teem]

I need a safe 2-4 leg parlay boys.

[JIBBBY]

I need a safe 2-4 leg parlay boys.

Yup, I'm gonna try some prop parlays this go around myself. It's been a while since I tried them... I tend to be streaky so I need to get back to trying those parlays again..

I'll often win 3 or 4 props in a row and heat up then lose 3 or 4 props in a row.. It's crazy...

Those big + odd prop 3 teamers pay out massive when they hit.. All you need is to hit one of those and you get paid.. I'll try a bunch of combo's at $10 a pop probably...

[Hugo de Naranja]

Yup, I'm gonna try some prop parlays this go around myself. It's been a while since I tried them... I tend to be streaky so I need to get back to trying those parlays again..

I'll often win 3 or 4 props in a row and heat up then lose 3 or 4 props in a row.. It's crazy...

Those big + odd prop 3 teamers pay out massive when they hit.. All you need is to hit one of those and you get paid.. I'll try a bunch of combo's at $10 a pop probably...

I like where your heads at Jibs.

[Thrilla]

I like where your heads at Jibs.

He is dating. His mojo is up.

Keep a close eye on him.

[Sanity Check]

Did somebody on the card get molested? Whats up with this politico garbage in the thread?

People treat politics like its a high school drama game.

Its not a fukking game to me.

Nearly everything that makes the world a shitty place to live @ times, happened because people supported the wrong policies or voted for the wrong politician.

I wish people would take things more seriously.

If you want things to improve for yourself, your family and the people you care about its very important not to blindly believe everything the media says about people like Alex Jones. Its also important to not be fooled into thinking the media or the people you see on tv have your best interests @ heart.

That's about all I have to say about that.

Watching now. Afraid these two Brits could be biased towards Till.

Dan Hardy, Michael Bisping and every other brit on tv have always been heavily biased towards Darren Till since Darren Till was a glint in his father's eye.

No he is just proving everyone who is sane that Sanity Check is actually insane.

Who in his right mind would give credit to anything smear merchant Alex Jones says.

His audience is angry rightwing low-iq White folk.

@inSanity Check you already felt that negative way about immigrants. Alex Jones is just telling you what you want to hear. It makes you feel good.

Unregulated immigration my ass.
You think just because mainstream media doesn't spread these lies you found a real source of info and are now part of an elite group that knows the truth? elite group of dumbdumbs yes.

I'm "insane"? What would my theme song be, then?

"You so crazy, I want to have yo baby."

Or.

Basic immigration 101 for Thrilla.

-Some immigrants want to work hard and contribute to america.
-Some immigrants only want to be criminals, rape women and throw homosexuals off tall buildings.

People like Alex Jones and Donald Trump want to screen immigrats so we keep the good ones and refuse the bad ones.

The media says this is "racist". Since when has common sense been "racism"?

/Living in a post common sense world.

[Shagdogy]

Do you guys trust Rivera/Dodson to GTD more than Neal/Camacho?... Neal/Camacho have a line for Fight starts R3 at -124.

I know that it's probably not a popular opinion but I think Neal has a decent shot at stopping Camacho. For me the Dodson/Rivera fight is much more likely to go to decision.

[Thrilla]

Sanity

Your hero Alex Jones recently caught watching Tranny porn. Explain!

[Sanity Check]

Sanity

Your hero Alex Jones recently caught watching Tranny porn. Explain!

Under Joseph Stalin, homosexuality was a crime punishable up to 5 years hard labor in prison. Ditto with other leftist regimes.

Right now china has as many as 1,000,000 muslims being imprisoned and tortured in re-education camps.

Forget about history -- Alex Jones tranny porn is the greatest danger civilization faces atm.

Says the fake news media, which never reports on real news and only pushes weak agendas.

[turbozed]

Can you guys kindly keep the politics out of this forum? I have no problem with what anybody is saying, but this thread is about capping the upcoming event and making money.

[Sanity Check]

Tatiana Suarez looking like a total package leading into it.

[Sanity Check]

Two things that need to be said about late replacement Jarred Brooks.

#1 Jarred Brooks defeated Deiveson Figueiredo 30-27 in their last fight. Hometown judging didn't make it official but Brooks did win that fight.

#2 Jarred Brooks was dominating Jose Torres everywhere up until Brooks slammed his opponent and accidentally knocked himself out.

Brooks is a great fighter but has the worst luck.

[Kermit]

Looks like the women's flyweight title fight is probably going to get cancelled. They should just give the belt to Valentina. She would have destroyed her anyways.

Ariel HelwaniVerified account @arielhelwani

Nicco Montaño, the UFC women’s flyweight champion, has been transported to a local hospital, according to multiple sources. There is serious concern about the status of her title fight against Valentina Shevchenko at this time.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

He is dating. His mojo is up.

Keep a close eye on him.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Looks like the women's flyweight title fight is probably going to get cancelled. They should just give the belt to Valentina. She would have destroyed her anyways.

Ariel HelwaniVerified account @arielhelwani

Nicco Montaño, the UFC women’s flyweight champion, has been transported to a local hospital, according to multiple sources. There is serious concern about the status of her title fight against Valentina Shevchenko at this time.

Shevchenko has been saying all along that Montano would not show up to fight.

[Teem]

Dammit I had a good Shevchenko prop. Was looking forward to her dishing out a beating.

[Kermit]

Shevchenko has been saying all along that Montano would not show up to fight.

Yes, she did.

UFC 228: Valentina Shevchenko Still Has Doubts Nicco Montano Will Show Up On Fight Night

UFC 228: Nicco Montaño Says Valentina Shevchenko is in 'La-La Land' if She Thinks She Won't Show Up

This is from yesterday.

[WolfTicketDealer]

Last card I pretty much broke even but had a solid night on Toutmaster, moving to 14th. Hopefully things are starting to trend up. Not quite as many plays on this card but it should be a fun one nonetheless. Let's get to it.

2018 YTD SBR UFC YTD: -7.055 u

Woodley vs. Till

Woodley (+125) 1.5 u
Over 4.5 (+100) 2 u

Zabit vs. Davis

Magomedsharipov Decision (+230) 0.5 u

Alhassan vs. Price

Price ITD (+181) 1 u

Stamann vs. Sterling

Stamann (+120) 1 u

Rivera vs. Dodson

Rivera -3.5 (+180) 1.5 u

White vs. Miller

White ITD (+190) 1.5 u

Good luck to everyone! I may add some on Woodley/Till Over (or goes the distance) depending on line movement. Also may add on Jimmie Rivera, I really like him in this spot.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Yes, she did.

UFC 228: Nicco Montaño Says Valentina Shevchenko is in 'La-La Land' if She Thinks She Won't Show Up

This is from yesterday.

I feel really bad for Valentina if this fight gets cancelled.

[Kermit]

Till made weight at 169 pounds. Woodley first weigh in was 171 pounds. Woodley does not look happy. He took his shorts off and made weight at 170.

[Teem]

Those of you who favor Byrd, do you think he stops Stewart in the first?