UFC Fight Night 121: Werdum vs. Tybura | November 18, 2017 (Sydney, Australia)

**Kermit** · 11-18-17, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

How do you guys have this one?

I could see a draw in this one.

**Shagdogy** · 11-18-17, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

How do you guys have this one?

This is the typical fight where I would assume the home fighter wins the decision, but after Dan Kelly's cards I don't know anything anymore. I think it's probably going to be 29-28 Matthews just because he ended the fight in top position.

**Kermit** · 11-18-17, 11:39 PM

It was ugly, but I'll take it.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-18-17, 11:39 PM

Added:
Means+Muhammad WGD/Rawlings+Clark WGD (+437) .25u

**turbozed** · 11-18-17, 11:39 PM

Huh I think Bojan got screwed over there. He landed 3 times more strikes than Matthews and outgrappled him through most of the fight.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-18-17, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

This is the typical fight where I would assume the home fighter wins the decision, but after Dan Kelly's cards I don't know anything anymore. I think it's probably going to be 29-28 Matthews just because he ended the fight in top position.

Yeah very close fight. Picked Matthews by Split so at least I got that right. No regrets on my Bojan Live-bet

**mackave** · 11-18-17, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

How do you guys have this one?

Matthews just cause of home town, but was really close.

**Shagdogy** · 11-18-17, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Added:
Means+Muhammad WGD/Rawlings+Clark WGD (+437) .25u

Going against your o1.5 a little bit?

**MMANick** · 11-18-17, 11:40 PM

I had 29-28 Matthews, but it was close.

**Kermit** · 11-18-17, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by turbozed

Huh I think Bojan got screwed over there. He landed 3 times more strikes than Matthews and outgrappled him through most of the fight.

I can't argue with that. For the 4 minutes in the first round when Jake was trying to get a take down, he took 50 shots to the head.

**turbozed** · 11-18-17, 11:41 PM

Coming up is the Highlander match between the two trashy Aussie bogan girls.

"There can only be one"

*actually jumped the gun. Let's go Belal

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-18-17, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by turbozed

Huh I think Bojan got screwed over there. He landed 3 times more strikes than Matthews and outgrappled him through most of the fight.

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/8590/Jake-Matthews-vs-Bojan-Velickovic;jsessionid=AA349B42EAA1A2055EDE227C29FCF182

Looks like the majority of media scored it for Bojan. I think he won the only clear round (R2) and that it was an arguable 10-8.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-18-17, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Going against your o1.5 a little bit?

Yeah. I also have the O7.5/O8.5 Decisions. Think there is also a decent possibility of a finish O1.5

**Kermit** · 11-18-17, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/859...DE227C29FCF182

Looks like the majority of media scored it for Bojan. I think he won the only clear round (R2) and that it was an arguable 10-8.

Mookie Alexander scored it the way that I would have.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-18-17, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

Mookie Alexander scored it the way that I would have.

Yeah I don't have a problem with a Draw or 29-28 either guy but I leaned Velickovic

**Demonata** · 11-18-17, 11:44 PM

Its so nice to of lost all already.

**turbozed** · 11-18-17, 11:45 PM

Let's see if Dirty Bird can still bring it. If he can, then both me and Belal are in trouble

**MMANick** · 11-18-17, 11:46 PM

Took Belal +3.5 @ -125. I think he may get a decision here, or at least take a round.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-18-17, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by MMANick

Took Belal +3.5 @ -125. I think he may get a decision here, or at least take a round.

Not a bad bet.

**Shagdogy** · 11-18-17, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by turbozed

Let's see if Dirty Bird can still bring it. If he can, then both me and Belal are in trouble

As long as he brings it slowly... lets go over.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-18-17, 11:50 PM

I like the Straight Left to the body that Means is landing.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-18-17, 11:52 PM

Belal is not looking to grapple at all it seems. Not sure he can win a fight like this

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-18-17, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Belal is not looking to grapple at all it seems. Not sure he can win a fight like this

Actually credit to Muhammad. He is landing lots of good strikes.

**turbozed** · 11-18-17, 11:54 PM

Belal outlanded Means there, but the optics are that Means was in control so I think judges give the round to Means.

**Shagdogy** · 11-18-17, 11:55 PM

Muhammad really settled in the second half of that round. His hand speed is looking good. Means is not fighting that Alex Garcia gameplan at all. This is high paced.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-18-17, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by turbozed

Belal outlanded Means there, but the optics are that Means was in control so I think judges give the round to Means.

Very close round. Live-betting thinks Belal won the round. Means can start slow so R2 will be intriguing.

**spurginobili** · 11-18-17, 11:55 PM

I've need Means, but looks like he lost round 1

**MMANick** · 11-18-17, 11:55 PM

1-0 Belal?

**turbozed** · 11-18-17, 11:57 PM

Guess that answers questions about whether Muhammad can land takedowns. Not sure why he stood up from top position but maybe just wants to threaten the level change?

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-18-17, 11:58 PM

Over cashes!

**Shagdogy** · 11-18-17, 11:58 PM

Over 1.5. CHING CHING

**turbozed** · 11-18-17, 11:59 PM

Well the over was a lock. Congrats to us that had O1.5

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-19-17, 12:01 AM

Live-betting Pick 'Em after R1 with action on Belal
Live-betting Pick 'Em after R2 with action on Means

**turbozed** · 11-19-17, 12:01 AM

I have Belal Rd3 +2325 as a flyer here.

Hoping this lotto ticket cashes.

This is a very even fight so far, either round could go either way but I got it 1-1 coming into 3rd

**Shagdogy** · 11-19-17, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by turbozed

Well the over was a lock. Congrats to us that had O1.5

You were right on that it should have been set at 2.5. Solid chins. Slow starters (though not so much in this fight).

* Also - glad I didn't try to pick a side here. This is a good, close fight. Who the hell knows what these judges are seeing.