UFC on FOX: VanZant Vs Waterson (December 17, 2016)

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  • Plaza23
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    • 12-29-13
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    #211
    Gall with the submission win. I think he can win a title someday.
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    • UncleChael
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      #212
      Galll getting lit up...
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      • Kermit
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        #213
        Originally posted by Kermit
        I see Gall getting his 4th pro win by a 4th RNC finish.
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        • UncleChael
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          #214
          Holy fukk..
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          • Hugo de Naranja
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            #215
            Nice performance by Gall. Good finishing ability but I think is cardio is pretty questionable going forward.
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            • THE_LOCKSMITH
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              #216
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              • Hugo de Naranja
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                #217
                Think VanZant loses the first round but gets the comeback win
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                • Hugo de Naranja
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by Kermit
                  Good call bud.
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                  • Ty$
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                    #219
                    I'm on PVZ straight and by dec and parlayed w Gall... my night rides on PVZ
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                    • Unwritten Law
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                      #220
                      Go Michelle!!!
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                      • firekillex
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                        #221
                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                        Nice performance by Gall. Good finishing ability but I think is cardio is pretty questionable going forward.
                        i dont see how he could make 55 hes a pretty big 70er and hes only getting older that would be a bad move imo, zahabi one of the most intelligent coaches in the game should sway him from doing this, dropping weight doesnt always help you i think it would hinder his performances imo.... on another note his finishing ability and back taking skills are great every fight he lands the punch and circles to the back in a split second sinking the choke in. sage is all offense you can tell from previous fights, he doesnt like to get hit and he gives up far to easily doesnt seem like a true fighter imo i dont think he makes it really anywhere in the sport, gall definitely has a future though

                        gall vs hardy i do not see going well for him though , wish he didnt make that call out if hardy actually comes back from his health problems
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                        • Plaza23
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                          #222
                          Damn that was nothing of a main event. oh well Paige. You're still sexy in my book.
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                          • Ty$
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                            #223
                            Well that was quick ... shit
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                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                              #224
                              UFC on Fox 22: VanZant vs. Waterson Picks:
                              Bojan Velickovic Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                              Hector Sandoval Split Decision (30-27, 29-28, 28-29)
                              Eddie Wineland Round 2 TKO (Punches)
                              Irene Aldana Round 1 TKO (Knee and Punches)
                              Josh Emmett Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                              James Moontasri Round 2 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                              Colby Covington Round 3 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                              Mizuto Hirota Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                              Luis Henrique da Silva Round 2 TKO (Punches)
                              Mike Perry Round 1 KO (Punch)
                              Urijah Faber Round 2 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
                              Sage Northcutt Round 1 Submission (Triangle Choke)
                              Paige VanZant Round 3 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
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                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                #225
                                UFC on Fox 22: VanZant vs. Waterson Draftkings Double Up Lineup:
                                Colby Covington ($8,900) 137 Points
                                Bojan Velickovic ($8,600) 14 Points
                                Mike Perry ($8,500) 18.5 Points
                                Mizuto Hirota ($8,100) 106.5 Points
                                Sage Northcutt ($8,000) 19.5 Points
                                James Moontasri ($7,800) 23 Points

                                Risk: 1u
                                Total Points: 318.5 Points
                                Result: Did Not Cash, -1u

                                UFC on Fox 22: VanZant vs. Waterson Draftkings Tournament Lineup:
                                Luis Henrique da Silva ($9,000) 23 Points
                                Eddie Wineland ($8,800) 114.5 Points
                                Josh Emmett ($8,700) 119.5 Points
                                Sage Northcutt ($8,000) 19.5 Points
                                James Moontasri ($7,800) 23 Points
                                Alan Jouban ($7,700) 84.5 Points

                                Risk: .2u
                                Total Points: 384 Points
                                Result: Did Not Cash, -.2u
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                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                  #226
                                  Losing night for me. Will post results once they announce FOTN.
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                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                    #227
                                    UFC on Fox 22: VanZant vs. Waterson

                                    Fight Pass Prelims:

                                    Fight #1: Velickovic vs. Aliev
                                    Velickovic (-135) -2.7u
                                    Velickovic/Aliev Draw (+6000) -.1u

                                    Result: Sultan Aliev Split Decision (30-27 x2, 28-29)
                                    Fight: -2.8u
                                    Card: -2.8u

                                    Fight #2: Sandoval vs. Serrano
                                    No Bet

                                    Result: Hector Sandoval Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)

                                    Fight #3: Wineland vs. Mizugaki
                                    Wineland KO/TKO (+165) +2.475u
                                    Wineland/Mizugaki Draw (+6500) -.1u

                                    Hedge:
                                    Mizugaki Decision (+340) -1u

                                    Result: Eddie Wineland Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                                    Fight: +1.375u
                                    Card: -1.425u

                                    Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

                                    Fight #4: Smith vs. Aldana (DEBUT)
                                    Aldana+Smith Under 2.5 (+150) -2u
                                    Aldana ITD (+165) -2u
                                    Aldana KO/TKO (+300) -1u

                                    Hedge:
                                    Smith Round 3 (+2550) -.25u

                                    Result: Leslie Smith Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
                                    Fight: -5.25u
                                    Card: -6.675u

                                    Fight #5: Emmett vs. Holtzman
                                    No Bet

                                    Result: Josh Emmett Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)

                                    Fight #6: Moontasri vs. Morono
                                    Moontasri Decision (+444) -.75u
                                    Moontasri Round 2 (+600) -.5u
                                    Moontasri Round 3 (+1050) -.25u
                                    Moontasri Submission (+1275) -1u

                                    Result: Alex Morono Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                                    Fight: -2.5u
                                    Card: -9.175u

                                    Fight #7: Barberena vs. Covington
                                    Barberena (+350) -1u
                                    Barberena Round 2 (+1250) -.25u
                                    Barberena Round 3 (+2050) -.25u

                                    Hedge(s):
                                    Covington Submission (+495) -1u
                                    Covington Round 3 (+1075) -.5u

                                    Result: Colby Covington Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                                    Fight: -3u
                                    Card: -12.175u

                                    Fight #8: Miller vs. Hirota
                                    Hirota (-120) +2u
                                    Hirota Decision (+200) +1u

                                    Result: Mizuto Hirota Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 30-26)
                                    Fight: +3u
                                    Card: -9.175u

                                    Fight #9: Henrique da Silva vs. Craig (DEBUT)
                                    Henrique da Silva KO/TKO (+160) -1u
                                    Henrique da Silva Round 2 (+425) -.5u

                                    Hedge(s):
                                    Craig Submission (+435) +2.175u
                                    Craig Round 1 (+600) -.25u

                                    Result: Paul Craig Round 2 Submission (Armbar)
                                    Fight: +.425u
                                    Card: -8.75u

                                    Main Card:

                                    Fight #10: Perry vs. Jouban
                                    Perry (-130) -1.3u
                                    Perry KO/TKO (+140) -1u
                                    Perry Round 1 (+300) -.5u

                                    Hedge(s):
                                    Jouban Decision (+475) +2.375u
                                    Jouban Round 1 (+1575) -.5u

                                    Result: Alan Jouban Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                                    Fight: -.925u
                                    Card: -9.675u

                                    Fight #11: Faber vs. Pickett
                                    Faber Submission (+300) -3u

                                    Result: Urijah Faber Unanimous Decision (30-26 x3)
                                    Fight: -3u
                                    Card: -12.675u

                                    Fight #12: Gall vs. Northcutt
                                    Northcutt (+120) -1u
                                    Northcutt Scorecards = No Action (+155) -2u
                                    Northcutt Submission (+1060) -.5u

                                    Hedge(s):
                                    Gall Decision (+665) -.5u
                                    Gall KO/TKO (+1318) -.5u

                                    Result: Mickey Gall Round 2 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                    Fight: -4.5u
                                    Card: -17.175u

                                    Fight #13: VanZant vs. Waterson
                                    VanZant (-125) -2.5u
                                    VanZant (+100) -2u
                                    VanZant+Waterson Under 4.5 Rounds (+140) +2.8u
                                    VanZant ITD (+263) -1u
                                    VanZant Round 3 (+1050) -.5u
                                    VanZant Split/Majority Decision (+1180) -.25u
                                    VanZant Round 4 (+1450) -.25u
                                    VanZant Round 5 (+2050) -.25u

                                    Hedge(s):
                                    Waterson ITD (+456) +4.56u
                                    Waterson KO/TKO (+1500) -.25u
                                    Waterson Round 3 (+1675) -.25u

                                    Result: Michelle Waterson Round 1 Technical Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                    Fight: +.11u
                                    Card: -17.065u

                                    Straight Parlays:
                                    Emmett/Da Silva (+117) -1u
                                    Da Silva/Faber -3.5 (+135) -1.5u

                                    Results: Emmett, Faber -3.5 Win, Da Silva Loses
                                    Fights: -2.5u
                                    Card: -19.565u

                                    Prop Parlays:
                                    Covington+Barberena Starts Round 3/Da Silva+Craig Won’t Start Round 3 (+113) +2.26u
                                    Miller Scorecards=No Action/Northcutt Scorecards=No Action(+342) -.5u
                                    Da Silva ITD/Perry KO/Faber+Pickett Goes Distance (+664) -.25u
                                    Da Silva KO/Jouban KO (+908) -.5u
                                    Wineland Decision/Aldana Decision (+1030) -.25u
                                    Emmett Decision/Moontasri/Faber Decision (+1206) -.25u
                                    Aldana Round 1/Perry Round 1 (+1587) -.25u
                                    Aldana+Smith Under 2.5/Emmett Decision/Moontasri ITD (+1893) -.25u
                                    Velickovic Decision/Sandoval Decision/Wineland KO (+2184) -.25u
                                    Covington Submission/Miller Submission (+2488) -.25u
                                    Covington Submission/Hirota Decision/Da Silva ITD (+3458) -.25u
                                    Moontasri Submission/Gall Submission (+3956) -.1u
                                    Perry ITD/Faber ITD/Northcutt ITD/VanZant ITD (+4449) -.25u
                                    Covington Submission/Miller Submission/Craig Submission (+13748) -.1u
                                    Moontasri Round 3/Covington Round 3 (+15500) -.1u
                                    Northcutt Submission/Waterson KO (+17914) -.1u

                                    Added:
                                    Faber Decision/Waterson Decision (+712) -.5u

                                    Results: See Above
                                    Fights: -1.89u
                                    Card: -21.455u

                                    Full Card Props:
                                    Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+328) +3.28u
                                    Over 4.5 Fights End in Submission (+478) -.5u
                                    Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+850) +4.25u
                                    Perry+Jouban FOTN (+550) -1u
                                    Sage Northcutt Wins Fastest Sub (+2500) -.25u
                                    Over 9.5 Fights Go Distance (+2575) -.25u
                                    Irene Aldana Wins Fastest KO (+3000) -.5u

                                    Results: See Above
                                    Fights: +5.03u
                                    Final Card Total: -16.425u
                                    Last edited by Hugo de Naranja; 12-17-16, 10:43 PM.
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                                    • TPowell
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                                      #228
                                      I beat Hugo tonight..... about all I can say. I lost my ass on Perry, da Silva, Sage, Paige, Moon, and Miller. Had a big play on Emmett and a parlay with Faber and Wineland but that was it. Think I lost 7 units
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                                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by TPowell
                                        I beat Hugo tonight..... about all I can say. I lost my ass on Perry, da Silva, Sage, Paige, Moon, and Miller. Had a big play on Emmett and a parlay with Faber and Wineland but that was it. Think I lost 7 units
                                        Seems like most everyone I know had a bad night. Weird card with a lot of decisions, random underdogs coming through.
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                                        • TPowell
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                                          #230
                                          Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                          Seems like most everyone I know had a bad night. Weird card with a lot of decisions, random underdogs coming through.

                                          I told myself I was going to bang those decision props for event but stupid penetrating Fox cards start in the middle of the day. Just a bad day. I thought there was no way Perry couldn't find Jouban's chin and no way he wouldn't drop. Couldn't see da Silva losing to a BJJ guy from Europe, and I just put too much on Paige and Sage. Should have just passed or played a 0.5 unit total or something.
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                                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                                            #231
                                            Originally posted by TPowell
                                            I told myself I was going to bang those decision props for event but stupid penetrating Fox cards start in the middle of the day. Just a bad day. I thought there was no way Perry couldn't find Jouban's chin and no way he wouldn't drop. Couldn't see da Silva losing to a BJJ guy from Europe, and I just put too much on Paige and Sage. Should have just passed or played a 0.5 unit total or something.
                                            My betting is built a lot on finishes so I always play em as a hedge for nights like these. They've saved me more than once.
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                                            • Shagdogy
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                                              #232
                                              Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                              Velickovic -150, 5 units
                                              Moontasri -112, 2 units
                                              Holtzman +155, 1 unit
                                              Serrano +105, 1 unit

                                              Good luck everyone. Go Bojan!
                                              Yeah so um... this went really well. Count me as one of those "bad night" people. Damn.
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                                              • Shagdogy
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                                                #233
                                                I'm still convinced Aliev spent his two year rehab in Russia getting regular roid injections. His smother game was especially suffocating, even if he did nothing with it. Man. Need to bounce back from this one.
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                                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                  I'm still convinced Aliev spent his two year rehab in Russia getting regular roid injections. His smother game was especially suffocating, even if he did nothing with it. Man. Need to bounce back from this one.
                                                  UFC 207 should have plenty of good spots. Keep your head up Shags. We'll get back to winning ways
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                                                  • TPowell
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                                                    #235
                                                    I thought Aliev by decision was the play but thought Sage and Paige were wiser investments
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                                                    • Ty$
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                                                      #236
                                                      Yup I tend to always put my eggs in 1 basket so either I'm up a lot or down the 50-100 I play per card not smart I know but fun. Hit Emmet and Gall prop threw it all on PVZ. Dumb. Lost $100.
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                                                      • Ty$
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                                                        #237
                                                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                        UFC 207 should have plenty of good spots. Keep your head up Shags. We'll get back to winning ways
                                                        Hope youre right.. already liking Ronda Caine and Cruz
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                                                        • getlucky2win
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                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by getlucky2win
                                                          I'm pounding the hottie
                                                          Tried to throw u btchz a bone
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                                                          • Shagdogy
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                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                            UFC 207 should have plenty of good spots. Keep your head up Shags. We'll get back to winning ways
                                                            Hope you're right... I've only recently recommitted myself to betting MMA. Used to hang around here a lot more.

                                                            What's your money management like Hugo? If I had 15-20 unit swings I'd be going off the deep end. I try to keep 1unit = 1.5% of bankroll and even still I don't like to bet more than 10-15units per card.

                                                            Edit: That wasn't a dig at you... just curious how you manage the units and swings overall.
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                                                            • JIBBBY
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                                                              #240
                                                              Hit and miss all night, Hit Waterson straight...Also hit Gall by sub, but hedged Northcut ITD, hit Faber by decision also.. .. I was just down to big going into those last 3 main fights to make up the losses....

                                                              I decided not to chase hard in the last 3 fight wins when I should have... Errr.. Just an off night..

                                                              A losing card for Jibs.. Didn't get destroyed but lost... Next. ....


                                                              Got Football today... It's a new day!!! Go Packers on the ML....
                                                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-18-16, 11:55 AM.
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                                                              • PaperTrail07
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                                                                #241
                                                                Hit gall jouban and waterson. Didn't hear a chirp from Perry s buddies after lol
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                                                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                  #242
                                                                  Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                                  Hope you're right... I've only recently recommitted myself to betting MMA. Used to hang around here a lot more.

                                                                  What's your money management like Hugo? If I had 15-20 unit swings I'd be going off the deep end. I try to keep 1unit = 1.5% of bankroll and even still I don't like to bet more than 10-15units per card.

                                                                  Edit: That wasn't a dig at you... just curious how you manage the units and swings overall.
                                                                  1u is 1% of my bankroll. I do play a lot of units per card but with prop hedging I rarely get killed even when I miss some big plays.
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                                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                    #243
                                                                    Overall a bad night for me. Lost on Velickovic, Aldana ITD, Moontasri, Barberena, Da Silva, Faber Submission, and Northcutt. Won on Wineland KO, Hirota + Decision, and Full Card Props. Didn't cash DK this week. On to UFC 207 which should be a killer event!
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