UFC Fight Night 94: Johnson vs. Poirier

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  • JIBBBY
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    • 12-10-09
    • 83691

    #36
    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
    Went ahead and played this for a unit. Thanks for the suggestion!
    I kinda don't like it, no offense to Tpow whom is a strong capper IMO...

    MJ is extremely hard to knock out or finish bottom line.. Alot of MJ's recent fights have gone to decision against strong strikers as well.. 4 of his last 5 against stiff comp if you wanna hit the stats up and get technical... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Michael-Johnson-68788

    DP is knocking people out of the box lately, but still MJ has never been knocked out cold.. Dustin Porier has gone to decision in one of his last 2 fights also.. I think this one could possibly go to decision with DP getting the nod.. Maybe, but wouldn't bet on that either..

    I'm staying away from the over/unders in this fight.. . Too sketchy to play IMO especially at - odds..

    There is better + odd bets to grab on this card if you ask me..



    Joseph Duffy vs DP decision..

    Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-16-16, 12:34 AM.
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    • TPowell
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      • 02-21-08
      • 18842

      #37
      Originally posted by JIBBBY
      I kinda don't like it, no offense to Tpow whom is a strong capper IMO...

      MJ is extremely hard to knock out or finish bottom line.. Alot of MJ's recent fights have gone to decision against strong strikers as well.. 4 of his last 5 against stiff comp if you wanna hit the stats up and get technical... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Michael-Johnson-68788

      DP is knocking people out of the box lately, but still MJ has never been knocked out cold.. Dustin Porier has gone to decision in one of his last 2 fights also.. I think this one could possibly go to decision with DP getting the nod.. Maybe, but wouldn't bet on that either..

      I'm staying away from the over/unders in this fight.. . Too sketchy to play IMO especially at - odds..

      There is better + odd bets to grab on this card if you ask me..



      Joseph Duffy vs DP decision..


      You think those guys could have went 2 more full rounds?
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      • Sanity Check
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        • 03-30-13
        • 10962

        #38
        Do Michael Johnson and Dustin Poirier train out of the same gym?

        Strange how the UFC is making a ton of teammate fights lately.
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        • JIBBBY
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          • 12-10-09
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          #39
          Originally posted by TPowell
          You think those guys could have went 2 more full rounds?
          Don't know Tpow, maybe or maybe not if those fighters knew and prepared for a 5 rounder?

          Like I said it's an iffy bet IMO that can go either way and at those -210 odds to not go the distance I gotta pass even in a 5 rounder.. MJ is tough as nails and built to last..

          Fighters train and prepare to fight for 5 rounds and pace themselves if it does go past the first couple rounds.. It's a mind set especially with the experienced UFC vets that are use to going the distance like MJ.... Just saying..

          Wish ya luck bud if you did jump on that ITD bet.. Might land..

          I always read your posts Tpow, respk for your MMA capping skills when you do post.. No disrespect just offering up my opinion based on recent stats..

          Personally if I had to bet between the fight not going the distance at -210 or the O2.5 at -140 I'd take the Over 2.5..

          UFC Fight Night 94 - Lightweight 5 rounds - State Farm Arena - Hidalgo, Texas - FS1
          Sat 9/17 1001 Michael Johnson +145 o2½ -140
          11:59PM 1002 Dustin Poirier -165 u2½ +120
          I'd say if you are looking for the O/U's and you think these guys are gonna come out swinging and finish then take the U2.5 at +120.. Chances are if this fight goes past 2.5 rounds it's probably going the distance on the flip side..
          Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-16-16, 01:38 AM.
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          • firekillex
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            • 09-18-13
            • 6420

            #40
            Originally posted by Sanity Check
            Do Michael Johnson and Dustin Poirier train out of the same gym?

            Strange how the UFC is making a ton of teammate fights lately.
            They literally train at rival gyms lol...
            johnson at blackzillians , porier at Americsn top team
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            • firekillex
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              • 09-18-13
              • 6420

              #41
              And gotta side with Jibby here o2.5 at -140 is way more value then -200 fight not going the distance... Both guys are super tough and gritty this fight could easily go to the judges ... People read into the last 3 fights far to much hence why the public losses money always, just because porier has some finishes lately doesn't mean he will finish every single guy , Johnson goes to decision a crap load and he has great movements / cardio plus both guys have solid chins.. 5 round fights are tough but -200 to much for my liking
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              • Hugo de Naranja
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                • 04-14-16
                • 14140

                #42
                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                Don't know Tpow, maybe or maybe not if those fighters knew and prepared for a 5 rounder?

                Like I said it's an iffy bet IMO that can go either way and at those -210 odds to not go the distance I gotta pass even in a 5 rounder.. MJ is tough as nails and built to last..

                Fighters train and prepare to fight for 5 rounds and pace themselves if it does go past the first couple rounds.. It's a mind set especially with the experienced UFC vets that are use to going the distance like MJ.... Just saying..

                Wish ya luck bud if you did jump on that ITD bet.. Might land..

                I always read your posts Tpow, respk for your MMA capping skills when you do post.. No disrespect just offering up my opinion based on recent stats..

                Personally if I had to bet between the fight not going the distance at -210 or the O2.5 at -140 I'd take the Over 2.5..

                UFC Fight Night 94 - Lightweight 5 rounds - State Farm Arena - Hidalgo, Texas - FS1
                Sat 9/17 1001 Michael Johnson +145 o2½ -140
                11:59PM 1002 Dustin Poirier -165 u2½ +120
                I'd say if you are looking for the O/U's and you think these guys are gonna come out swinging and finish then take the U2.5 at +120.. Chances are if this fight goes past 2.5 rounds it's probably going the distance on the flip side..
                Took the under here for 2u at (+140) a few days ago since all of these guys career finishes come in the first 2 rounds. We'll see how this one shakes out.
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                • Thrilla
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                  • 03-10-15
                  • 13809

                  #43
                  - Chas Skelly (15-2) discusses his upcoming fight with Maximo Blanco (12-7-1) at UFC Fight Night 94 on September 17th.
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                  • Sanity Check
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                    • 03-30-13
                    • 10962

                    #44
                    Originally posted by firekillex

                    They literally train at rival gyms lol...
                    johnson at blackzillians , porier at Americsn top team
                    Weird that I forgot Michael Johnson trains at blackzilians.

                    Originally posted by Thrilla
                    - Chas Skelly (15-2) discusses his upcoming fight with Maximo Blanco (12-7-1) at UFC Fight Night 94 on September 17th.
                    Chas Skelly's cardio only lasted 1 round in his last fight with Darren Elkins.

                    He gased out in his fight with Kevin Souza also.

                    Hopefully his stamina holds up better tomorrow.

                    ...

                    I'm glad everyone is doing well at the beat the prick contest.

                    I'm 2-3. There isn't anyone here doing worse than me lol.
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                    • Flea Hotel
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                      • 08-31-16
                      • 1732

                      #45
                      Poirier ML -160. Lock.
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                      • Sanity Check
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                        • 03-30-13
                        • 10962

                        #46
                        People are underestimating Johnson.

                        This is a much closer fight than people are giving it credit for being.
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                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                          • 04-14-16
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                          #47
                          UFC Fight Night 94 Picks:
                          Alejandro Perez Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                          Randy Brown Round 2 Submission
                          Joey Gomez Round 1 KO
                          Leonardo Augusto Leleco Round 3 TKO
                          Belal Muhammad Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                          Sam Sicilia Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
                          Chas Skelly Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                          Islam Makhachev Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                          Kenny Robertson Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
                          Evan Dunham Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                          Derek Brunson Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                          Dustin Poirier Round 1 TKO
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                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                            • 04-14-16
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                            #48
                            UFC Fight Night 94: Poirier vs. Johnson

                            Fight #1: Perez vs. Morales (DEBUT):
                            Perez (-110) 1.1u to win 1u
                            Perez Decision (+285) .5u

                            Fight #2: Montano vs. Brown:
                            Brown Decision (+242) .5u
                            Brown Submission (+405) 1u
                            Brown Round 2 (+425) .5u

                            Fight #3: Quinonez vs. Gomez:
                            Gomez (-170) 1.7u to win 1u
                            Gomez Round 1 (+325) .5u

                            Hedge:
                            Quinonez Decision (+380) .5u

                            Fight #4: Carlos Junior vs. Leleco:
                            Leleco Round 2 (+950) .25u
                            Leleco Round 3 (+1425) 1u
                            Leleco/Carlos Junior Draw (+8000) .25u

                            Hedge(s):
                            Carlos Junior Round 1 (+225) .5u
                            Carlos Junior Decision (+335) .5u

                            Fight #5: Montano vs. Muhammad:
                            Muhammad Decision (-109) 1.09u to win 1u
                            Muhammad Decision (+103) 1u
                            Muhammad Round 3 (+1025) .25u

                            Hedge:
                            Montano Scorecards = No Action (+312) 1.5u

                            Fight #6: Benitez vs. Sicilia:
                            No Bet

                            Fight #7: Skelly vs. Blanco:
                            Skelly (-170) 3.4u to win 2u
                            Skelly Decision (+240) 1.5u
                            Skelly Round 2 (+525) .5u
                            Skelly Round 3 (+1050) .25u

                            Hedge:
                            Blanco ITD (+495) .5u

                            Fight #8: Wade vs. Makhachev:
                            Wade ITD (+423) .5u
                            Wade ITD (+483) .5u

                            Fight #9: Carneiro vs. Robertson:
                            No Bet

                            Fight #10: Dunham vs. Glenn (DEBUT):
                            Glenn KO/TKO (+735) .5u
                            Glenn Round 2 (+1025) .5u
                            Glenn Round 3 (+2050) .25u

                            Fight #11: Hall vs. Brunson:
                            Brunson (-150) 3u to win 2u
                            Brunson -3.5 (+130) 1u
                            Brunson Round 1 (+600) .5u

                            Hedge(s):
                            Hall KO/TKO (+423) .5u
                            Hall Round 3 (+1275) .5u

                            Fight #12: Poirier vs. Johnson:
                            Poirier (-175) 7u to win 4u
                            Poirier (-150) 3u to win 2u
                            Poirier/Johnson Under 2.5 Rounds (+140) 2u
                            Poirier ITD (+149) 2.5u
                            Poirier KO/TKO (+305) 1.5u

                            Hedge(s):
                            Johnson Decision (+400) 2u
                            Johnson Round 1 (+600) 1u
                            Johnson Round 2 (+1000) 1u
                            Johnson Split/Majority Decision (+1160) .5u

                            Straight Parlays:
                            Brunson/Poirier (+165) 1u

                            Prop Parlays:
                            Makhachev+Wade Go Distance/Poirier+Johnson Won’t Go Distance (+129) 1u
                            Skelly+Blanco Go Distance/Muhammad Decision (+336) .5u
                            Brown Submission/Muhammad Decision (+925) .25u
                            Muhammad Decision/Dunham Decision/Poirier Decision (+2125) .25u
                            Brown Round 2/Skelly Round 2 (+3182) .25u

                            Full Card Props:
                            Over 6.5 Fights Go Distance (+222) .5u
                            Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+554) .25u
                            Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+1549) .25u
                            No Submissions (+1438) .75u

                            Multi-Event Parlays:
                            Poirier/Hillary Clinton/Rockhold (+359) 1u

                            Open Parlays:
                            Poirier/Open/Open 1u
                            Last edited by Hugo de Naranja; 09-16-16, 08:44 PM.
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                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                              • 04-14-16
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                              #49
                              UFC Fight Night 94 Draftkings Double Up Lineup:
                              Dustin Poirier ($10,400)
                              Chas Skelly ($10,300)
                              Belal Muhammad ($10,200)
                              Derek Brunson ($10,000)
                              Joey Gomez ($8,900)

                              UFC Fight Night 94 Draftkings Tournament Lineup:
                              Randy Brown ($10,900)
                              Dustin Poirier ($10,400)
                              Antonio Carlos Junior ($9,900)
                              Joey Gomez ($8,900)
                              Albert Morales ($8,400)
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                              • GoBlue77
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                Do Michael Johnson and Dustin Poirier train out of the same gym?

                                Strange how the UFC is making a ton of teammate fights lately.
                                you don't even know and you're talking smack about teaching me a lesson. noobs...
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                                • Theo_Goodman
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                                  #51
                                  I only have a few picks for this card.
                                  Brunson vs. Hall
                                  Brunson win 1.500
                                  fight doesn’t go the distance 2.050

                                  Poirier vs. Johnson
                                  Johnson 2.450
                                  hedge Props Poirier in round 1 round 2

                                  Last edited by SBR Genie; 09-23-16, 03:42 PM.
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                                  • UncleChael
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                                    #52
                                    I'm taking Dustin 'The Diamond' Poirier in the main event... legggooooo
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                                    • UncleChael
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                      UFC Fight Night 94 Draftkings Double Up Lineup:
                                      Dustin Poirier ($10,400)
                                      Chas Skelly ($10,300)
                                      Belal Muhammad ($10,200)
                                      Derek Brunson ($10,000)
                                      Joey Gomez ($8,900)

                                      UFC Fight Night 94 Draftkings Tournament Lineup:
                                      Randy Brown ($10,900)
                                      Dustin Poirier ($10,400)
                                      Antonio Carlos Junior ($9,900)
                                      Joey Gomez ($8,900)
                                      Albert Morales ($8,400)
                                      What can you win from Draft Kings? I might want to play today for a first.
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                                      • UncleChael
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by UncleChael
                                        I'm taking Dustin 'The Diamond' Poirier in the main event... legggooooo
                                        So, cash in those MJ bets. He should be the favorite. I switched my bet in like a hour, bet the house on Michael Johnson. In Uncle Chael we trust.
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                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                          • 04-14-16
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by UncleChael
                                          What can you win from Draft Kings? I might want to play today for a first.
                                          You can win some decent cash prizes and sometimes there are satellites into events like the World Series of Poker.
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                                          • firekillex
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                                            • 09-18-13
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                                            #56
                                            Some solid picks Hugo only thing I disagree with for sure is the Dunham fight I think he's probably the biggest lock on the card I don't see anyway he really losses this fight imo, got him connected Ina few parlays so hoping he comes through haha
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                                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                                              • 04-14-16
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by firekillex
                                              Some solid picks Hugo only thing I disagree with for sure is the Dunham fight I think he's probably the biggest lock on the card I don't see anyway he really losses this fight imo, got him connected Ina few parlays so hoping he comes through haha
                                              Yeah I think Dunham probably grinds him out but felt the value was on Glenn by later stoppage.
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                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                So, cash in those MJ bets. He should be the favorite. I switched my bet in like a hour, bet the house on Michael Johnson. In Uncle Chael we trust.
                                                So Michael Johnson is your pick? Or when Poirier wins, will you tell everybody "I told ya so "
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                                                • UncleChael
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                  So Michael Johnson is your pick? Or when Poirier wins, will you tell everybody "I told ya so "
                                                  My one house on M.J vs your 10 units on Poirier, good luck buddy!
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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    • 12-10-09
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                                                    #60
                                                    I'm on DP myself even at those shitty odds.. MJ always has a chance though.. Not happy about this bet..


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                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                      I'm on DP myself even at those shitty odds.. MJ always has a chance though.. Not happy about this bet..


                                                      Any other picks/plays for tonight?
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                        • 83691

                                                        #62
                                                        Fight #1 -

                                                        UFC Fight Pass



                                                        Alejandro
                                                        Perez
                                                        "Diablito"
                                                        vs
                                                        Albert
                                                        Morales

                                                        MEXICO
                                                        Country
                                                        UNITED

                                                        18-6-0
                                                        Record
                                                        6-0-0

                                                        44%
                                                        KO/TKO
                                                        33%

                                                        33%
                                                        SUB
                                                        50%

                                                        22%
                                                        DEC
                                                        17%

                                                        66 in
                                                        Height
                                                        69 in

                                                        135 lbs
                                                        Weight
                                                        135 lbs

                                                        67 in
                                                        Reach
                                                        72 in

                                                        36 in
                                                        Leg Reach
                                                        39 in



                                                        I couldn't sniff out any +odd props so I hit Perez straight and really liked the O1.5 as well..


                                                        $142.10 $118.40 Pending 9/17/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2101 Alejandro Perez -120* vs Albert Morales

                                                        $190.00 $102.70 Pending 9/17/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2101 Alejandro Perez/Albert Morales Over 1½ -185*
                                                        Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-17-16, 03:22 PM.
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                                                        • JIBBBY
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                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 83691

                                                          #63
                                                          Fight #2



                                                          Erick
                                                          Montano
                                                          "Perry"
                                                          vs
                                                          Randy
                                                          Brown
                                                          "Rudeboy"

                                                          MEXICO
                                                          Country
                                                          JAMAICA

                                                          8-3-0
                                                          Record
                                                          7-1-0

                                                          25%
                                                          KO/TKO
                                                          57%

                                                          63%
                                                          SUB
                                                          29%

                                                          13%
                                                          DEC
                                                          14%

                                                          72 in
                                                          Height
                                                          75 in

                                                          170 lbs
                                                          Weight
                                                          170 lbs

                                                          73 in
                                                          Reach
                                                          78 in

                                                          42 in
                                                          Leg Reach
                                                          45 in



                                                          Brown ITD is about the only bet I could live with in this bout at reasonable odds.. This is my only play..


                                                          $120.00 $100.00 Pending 9/17/16 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2009 Brown wins inside distance -120* vs Not Brown inside distance
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                                                          • JIBBBY
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                                                            • 12-10-09
                                                            • 83691

                                                            #64
                                                            Fight #3

                                                            FS1



                                                            Jose
                                                            Quinonez
                                                            "Teco"
                                                            vs
                                                            Joey
                                                            Gomez
                                                            "KO King"

                                                            MEXICO
                                                            Country
                                                            UNITED STATES

                                                            5-2-0
                                                            Record
                                                            6-1-0

                                                            40%
                                                            KO/TKO
                                                            100%

                                                            20%
                                                            SUB
                                                            0%

                                                            40%
                                                            DEC
                                                            0%



                                                            I highly doubt this fight goes the distance let alone start the 3rd round.. My only play for reasonable odds.. May still hit the GOMEZ KO for $50 at +178 since all his wins come by way of KO..


                                                            $120.00 $105.30 Pending 9/17/16 8:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1936 Fight won’t start round 3 -114* vs Quinones / Gomez starts round 3
                                                            Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-17-16, 03:56 PM.
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                                                            • JIBBBY
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                              Any other picks/plays for tonight?
                                                              Let's see how these first 3 fights go.. I'll keep posting up winners as the event goes if I can stay hot..
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                                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                • 04-14-16
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                Let's see how these first 3 fights go.. I'll keep posting up winners as the event goes if I can stay hot..
                                                                Cool man. Best of luck!
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                                                                • Thrilla
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  How much credit do you guys give to Michael Johnson's speed advantage? His best performances come to guys where he circles around his opponent and counter punching. (vs Tibau.for example). Poirier is slow/ too telegraphed striking I feel.
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Thrilla
                                                                    How much credit do you guys give to Michael Johnson's speed advantage? His best performances come to guys where he circles around his opponent and counter punching. (vs Tibau.for example). Poirier is slow/ too telegraphed striking I feel.
                                                                    I give MJ a chance just because of his toughness and chin strength.. If they get to trading in the pocket DP's chin could get cracked.. We've seen DP dropped before..

                                                                    DP is the more technical striker though, more tools in the shed.. I don't see a huge speed advantage in this fight for either guy.. DP has also been on a tear lately since changing weight classes..
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                                                                    • Thrilla
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Weigh-In

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                                                                      • firekillex
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Fight completes round 2 -160 is the main event play
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