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HurlSweatPantsSBR Wise Guy
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#2171Funny, I came here to ask you about this fight. I went ahead and grabbed Olivera at +150, I think his skill set on the ground might be too much for Teymur, plus I have a feeling this gets closer to pick em as the fight gets closer.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
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#2172Teymur has pretty good fight iq doesnt he? I havent seen his fight with Nik Lentz, but from the fights i have seen he is as reluctant to go to the ground as a desert cat. He will probably just outstrike Oliveira dont you think?Originally posted by HurlSweatPantsFunny, I came here to ask you about this fight. I went ahead and grabbed Olivera at +150, I think his skill set on the ground might be too much for Teymur, plus I have a feeling this gets closer to pick em as the fight gets closer.
F Oliveira, could have been a world champ. He doesnt care, he gets a bonus every fight anyways!Comment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#2173agreed with all that..Originally posted by bjpenn85Woha. What a fight. Barboza is pretty good at back pedaling now, after everyone last 2-3 years have tried to put pressure on Barboza. I think Barboza getting accustomed to getting pressured. Dont dare to put a bet on this fight, but leaning barboza.
lean Edson but Gaethje is so damn tough if he can handle the first onslaught and take it a bit later he can get a win
wont be betting this fight odds will be close no doubt, just enjoy this as a fanComment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
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#2174Absolutely. Any bet for this weekend ?Originally posted by firekillexagreed with all that..
lean Edson but Gaethje is so damn tough if he can handle the first onslaught and take it a bit later he can get a win
wont be betting this fight odds will be close no doubt, just enjoy this as a fanComment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#2175petty large bet on TJOriginally posted by bjpenn85Absolutely. Any bet for this weekend ?
then some smaller props and underdog bets that i like a bit... TJ will be the main bet for the night though i like the odds -200 on him a lotComment -
HurlSweatPantsSBR Wise Guy
- 07-28-15
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#2176Teymur seems to have above average fight IQ, I like him a lot, just don't really like the match-up. But yes, I can see this turning into a muy thai match.Originally posted by bjpenn85Teymur has pretty good fight iq doesnt he? I havent seen his fight with Nik Lentz, but from the fights i have seen he is as reluctant to go to the ground as a desert cat. He will probably just outstrike Oliveira dont you think?
F Oliveira, could have been a world champ. He doesnt care, he gets a bonus every fight anyways!
If this gets anywhere near the ground though, Olivera has a decisive advantage, and can lock up subs in a heart beat. I just think there is way too much value with that line, not to mention Olivera isn't a slouch standing either, he should be able to hold his own enough to make the clinch and take-downs available.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
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#2177+150 is a decent price on a fight that is more or less 50/50. Oliveira does have steller reactive/counter takedowns as well so that makes the style difficult for our swedish friend. Teymur needs to be very cautious at all time, only one takedown can be a tragedy. It will def be difficult to fight freely, creative when you know that every kick, every mistep in the forward direction may be the end of the fight. Even the clinch position may be fatal.Originally posted by HurlSweatPantsTeymur seems to have above average fight IQ, I like him a lot, just don't really like the match-up. But yes, I can see this turning into a muy thai match.
If this gets anywhere near the ground though, Olivera has a decisive advantage, and can lock up subs in a heart beat. I just think there is way too much value with that line, not to mention Olivera isn't a slouch standing either, he should be able to hold his own enough to make the clinch and take-downs available.
When that being said, Giagos withstood oliveira until midway in round 2, so just la little bit more effort from teymur and Oliveira may loose 2 rounds in the book, then Teymur may just stall for the last round putting up no offence only securing the victory thinking about not getting submitted. So im torn, i def think that Teymur is atheltic, quick and, has good enough tdd (82%), and if i remember correctly Teymur has shown very good signs of managing getting out of these important clinch positions that may arise again in this fight. Teymur has actually not lost a single round in the ufc that is the guy youre placing your money against, its absolutely a fair bet, but that aspect should be a concern also...Again, +150 for Oliveira to get one takedown during 15 min may also be looked upon as rather cheap hehe..Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2178Alex Pereira, the only man to KO Israel Adesanya in Kickboxing is planning to make a fulltime transition to MMA in April 2019.Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#2179Just a random though.....Manny Bermudez VS Ryan Hall would be a cool fight......that is all LOL>...
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firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#2180any thoughts on Whittaker vs Gatelum ???
Whittaker has 2 super tough fights coming up with Gastelum and if he wins could possibly have Israel next after that
after 2 Yoel Romero fights... if he wins both those upcoming fights imo hed be the best 185er ever in my books that would literally be murderers row.... i could easily see him losing either of those fightsComment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2181I like Whittaker to get the job done in his home country but Gastelum is no easy task. Can't recall a time that Gastelum lost a striking fight.Originally posted by firekillexany thoughts on Whittaker vs Gatelum ???
Whittaker has 2 super tough fights coming up with Gastelum and if he wins could possibly have Israel next after that
after 2 Yoel Romero fights... if he wins both those upcoming fights imo hed be the best 185er ever in my books that would literally be murderers row.... i could easily see him losing either of those fightsComment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#2182Gastelum might have one of the best chins ive seen in MMA tbh.... guy literally doesnt mark up at all its actually crazyOriginally posted by Hugo de NaranjaI like Whittaker to get the job done in his home country but Gastelum is no easy task. Can't recall a time that Gastelum lost a striking fight.
Whittaker will be the bigger guy but this will probably be an all striking match , im really interested to see what happens here
praying Isreal smokes Anderson and gets the winner, 185 is crazy right nowComment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#2183Ortega calling out Aldo.. man I think that’s a super bad style matchup for him , dont think that would end well for Ortega.. looks like aldo wants pettis though??
And we need Moraes vs TJ
Assuming they’ll do TJ Cejudo rematch though , maybe give Moraes the winner of Garbrandt MunhozComment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2184I'm definitely looking to continue betting Aldo in future fights. I think he's got something left in the tank.Originally posted by firekillexOrtega calling out Aldo.. man I think that’s a super bad style matchup for him , dont think that would end well for Ortega.. looks like aldo wants pettis though??
And we need Moraes vs TJ
Assuming they’ll do TJ Cejudo rematch though , maybe give Moraes the winner of Garbrandt MunhozComment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#2185imo i never thought he didnt really, Holloway just has a granite chin and could survive the Aldo onslaught both times they fought and for some reason Aldo didnt throw really any leg kicks which i thought he needed in those fights.. his reaction time and power are definitely still there he just fades if he doesnt win in the first few rounds... imo 3 round fights are perfect for his styleOriginally posted by Hugo de NaranjaI'm definitely looking to continue betting Aldo in future fights. I think he's got something left in the tank.
i think hell beat Ortega badly , i hope Ortega doesnt take that fight... and i think he beats Pettis as well tbhComment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2186Same for me. Bet him big against Stephens, Edgar, and Moicano. Holloway is a next level athlete so no shame losing to him.Originally posted by firekilleximo i never thought he didnt really, Holloway just has a granite chin and could survive the Aldo onslaught both times they fought and for some reason Aldo didnt throw really any leg kicks which i thought he needed in those fights.. his reaction time and power are definitely still there he just fades if he doesnt win in the first few rounds... imo 3 round fights are perfect for his style
i think hell beat Ortega badly , i hope Ortega doesnt take that fight... and i think he beats Pettis as well tbhComment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2187Couple of solid Bellator cards this weekend.Comment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#2188who you got paul dayley vs venom page?Originally posted by Hugo de NaranjaCouple of solid Bellator cards this weekend.Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#2189I hate the guy----but Page -225 has real value right?Originally posted by firekillexwho you got paul dayley vs venom page?Comment -
HurlSweatPantsSBR Wise Guy
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#2190Not playing it, but Daley has tremendous value. Not of a fan of MVPs resume, and all it takes is one from Semtex.Originally posted by PaperTrail07I hate the guy----but Page -225 has real value right?Comment -
HurlSweatPantsSBR Wise Guy
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#2191Hugo, if you're on MVP, I will definitely do BPs for that matchup at current odds.Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2192Nah man I'm all over Daley.Originally posted by HurlSweatPantsHugo, if you're on MVP, I will definitely do BPs for that matchup at current odds.Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2193Daley all dayOriginally posted by firekillexwho you got paul dayley vs venom page?Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2194Remember when you took Larkin over him at a similar price? Daley is gonna KO Page in this spot.Originally posted by PaperTrail07I hate the guy----but Page -225 has real value right?Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
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#2195daley here as wellComment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#2196Ill pay to see it I guess.....on MVP.....Originally posted by Hugo de NaranjaRemember when you took Larkin over him at a similar price? Daley is gonna KO Page in this spot.Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
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#2197I will admit, I'm not big on the skills of Daley MOSTLY bc of his bad ground game....you guys may be right....but I'm still on MVP here.....Originally posted by Hugo de NaranjaRemember when you took Larkin over him at a similar price? Daley is gonna KO Page in this spot.Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2198Everyone who tries to outgrapple Daley does but very few outstrike him. It is going to be dangerous for Page if he keeps the fight standing.Originally posted by PaperTrail07I will admit, I'm not big on the skills of Daley MOSTLY bc of his bad ground game....you guys may be right....but I'm still on MVP here.....Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2199Adesanya vs. Gastelum announced for UFC 236. Kelvin is about to get his ass kicked.Comment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#2200has a granite chin but hes going to get picked apart , wonder if Israel can finish this fight will be tough ... i see a lopsided decision victory for StyleBenderOriginally posted by Hugo de NaranjaAdesanya vs. Gastelum announced for UFC 236. Kelvin is about to get his ass kicked.Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2201Hugo’s Prospects to Watch in Early 2019:
WSW: Weili Zhang
WFW: Antonina Shevchenko
WBW: Aspen Ladd
WFTW: Macy Chiasson
FW: Deiveson Figueiredo
BTW: Petr Yan
FTW: Zabit Magomedsharipov
LW: Gregor Gillespie
WW: Alexei Kunchenko
MW: Trevin Giles
LHW: Dominick Reyes
HW: Justin Willis
Criteria:
No more than 5 UFC Fights
No UFC main events fought as of 02.20.2019
No major titles won (Bellator, WSOF, Invicta etc.)Comment -
HurlSweatPantsSBR Wise Guy
- 07-28-15
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#2202Aspen Ladd has been on my radar too, definitely will be contending for a title in the future. Gillespie is a one trick pony, he just happens to be really really dominate at that trick. Would like to see him matched up against better competition though.Originally posted by Hugo de NaranjaHugo’s Prospects to Watch in Early 2019:
WSW: Weili Zhang
WFW: Antonina Shevchenko
WBW: Aspen Ladd
WFTW: Macy Chiasson
FW: Deiveson Figueiredo
BTW: Petr Yan
FTW: Zabit Magomedsharipov
LW: Gregor Gillespie
WW: Alexei Kunchenko
MW: Trevin Giles
LHW: Dominick Reyes
HW: Justin Willis
Criteria:
No more than 5 UFC Fights
No UFC main events fought as of 02.20.2019
No major titles won (Bellator, WSOF, Invicta etc.)Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2203Gillespie is my boy haha. His wrestling is great but his standup isn’t bad either. I’d say it’s between Khabib’s striking and Kevin Lee’s.Originally posted by HurlSweatPantsAspen Ladd has been on my radar too, definitely will be contending for a title in the future. Gillespie is a one trick pony, he just happens to be really really dominate at that trick. Would like to see him matched up against better competition though.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
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#2204Gillespie may be the only one who can defeat Nurma. Ferguson has so crappy tdd, i dont know if ferguson can ever get up.Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#2205Ferguson is probably the most dangerous guy off his back in the UFC. Hellacious elbows from bottom and a dangerous guard game.Originally posted by bjpenn85Gillespie may be the only one who can defeat Nurma. Ferguson has so crappy tdd, i dont know if ferguson can ever get up.Comment
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