Future Fights Thread

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

You gotta think Masvidal will be favored after his destruction of Cowboy..

Thinking Masvidal -185 maybe..

Gotta wait to May 13 for this card.. Maia is getting long in the tooth and I'm just hoping his age doesn't catch up with him finally. That's my biggest concern with Maia at this point..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Demian-Maia-14637

I would be very surprised if Masvidal is the favorite here. Maia on a big streak. I like Masvidal but he only has 1 solid win in his last 5 fights. The other 4 were two wins against washed up bums and 2 split decision losses.

**JIBBBY** · 03-01-17, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

I would be very surprised if Masvidal is the favorite here. Maia on a big streak. I like Masvidal but he only has 1 solid win in his last 5 fights. The other 4 were two wins against washed up bums and 2 split decision losses.

We'll see Hugo?? Maia has never been the favorite in fights if my memory serves me right. Please correct me if I'm wrong in saying that.. I remember winning big money every time on Maia off the straight wins lately..

I see it being no different here as he's a one trick pony and almost 40 years old now.. Oddsmakers gotta take that into consideration..

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

We'll see Hugo?? Maia has never been the favorite in fights if my memory serves me right. Please correct me if I'm wrong in saying that.. I remember winning big money every time on Maia off the straight wins lately..

I see it being no different here as he's a one trick pony and almost 40 years old now.. Oddsmakers gotta take that into consideration..

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At WW he was a big favorite against Brown and Yakovlev and a moderate favorite against Magny and Shields. But you're right, for the most part Maia comes in as a Pick 'Em or slight dog.

**firekillex** · 03-01-17, 02:00 AM

cant see maia being anything less then -150/-180 range

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

cant see maia being anything less then -150/-180 range

That's what I'm thinking. I'd make a huge bet at (+150) or better

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 02:05 AM

Also you were pretty accurate in setting that Dan Kelly line at (+175) fire

**firekillex** · 03-01-17, 02:45 AM

id like masvidal for +150 or better id probably be on him , 3 rounds is the key ... Maia been a beast lately though hard to keep fading him unless he fights a guy i really think can beat him ( tyron woodley ) or GSP mainly

and ya im seeing kelly +165/180 range, hopefully the prediction comes true now haha , im thinking rashad gets a nice decision win here

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

id like masvidal for +150 or better id probably be on him , 3 rounds is the key ... Maia been a beast lately though hard to keep fading him unless he fights a guy i really think can beat him ( tyron woodley ) or GSP mainly

and ya im seeing kelly +165/180 range, hopefully the prediction comes true now haha , im thinking rashad gets a nice decision win here

I don't think Woodley has ever been taken down in the UFC. At least not that I can remember. Tough matchup for Maia if he gets there. Both guys known for gassing hard.

**firekillex** · 03-01-17, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

I don't think Woodley has ever been taken down in the UFC. At least not that I can remember. Tough matchup for Maia if he gets there. Both guys known for gassing hard.

imo tyron woodley would absolutely starch maia round 1 or 2... Maia isnt taking him down and standing up hell get wrecked, Maias only solid weapon standing up is his kicks and if he did that with Tyron hell be countered like Marquardt did to him imo, Tyrons power would be to much to deal with for Maia imo hed look like a fish outta water after his first few takedowns got stuffed

GSP would be riskier since he doesnt have the power like Woodley but i think hed do basically the same but pepper him from the outside and start to take Maia down once he got gassed late rounds or hold him against the cage , some sort of solid gameplan to keep Maia neutralized

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

imo tyron woodley would absolutely starch maia round 1 or 2... Maia isnt taking him down and standing up hell get wrecked, Maias only solid weapon standing up is his kicks and if he did that with Tyron hell be countered like Marquardt did to him imo, Tyrons power would be to much to deal with for Maia imo hed look like a fish outta water after his first few takedowns got stuffed

GSP would be riskier since he doesnt have the power like Woodley but i think hed do basically the same but pepper him from the outside and start to take Maia down once he got gassed late rounds or hold him against the cage , some sort of solid gameplan to keep Maia neutralized

Totally possible. Might be a good fight to play the under or Fight Won't Start R3. Either way I see it ending early. Woodley a BEAST early and Maia can RNC anyone.

**firekillex** · 03-01-17, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Totally possible. Might be a good fight to play the under or Fight Won't Start R3. Either way I see it ending early. Woodley a BEAST early and Maia can RNC anyone.

Ya i wonder where the line would even be for that fight ... Woodley -140 or under id go BIG though for me
kinda wish it happened this weekend , but oh well lets see how this rematch goes

and well have to see if Maia can get through Masvidal both difficult matchups for both guys
170 a shark tank right now

**strictlypaypal** · 03-01-17, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

McG wioth ZERO ground game LOL......TDD not amazing...would get ragdolled LOL>..

why do ppl always say this? that tap to diaz and everyone acts like he is the worst on the ground, that was gassing, he actually landed a beautiful sweep on diaz in round 1. and kept it on feet after multiple attempts by diaz in the 2nd bout. he fought a lot of wrestlers early and defended well as well as of course alvarez. his strikes completely took eddie out of his gameplan but eddie still went for it plenty. everything changes when you get hit though. Mendes fight is the only time he got tossed but his acl was more than half torn. i do agree though khabib is on a different level and i think we see how different that is saturday vs ferguson

Originally posted by firekillex

His ground game is actually super underrated and his TDD isn't to bad he stuffed Eddie Alvarez shots like nothing ...

khabibs wrestling is on another level though , let's see this weekend how they work and gauge it after

this ^^

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by strictlypaypal

why do ppl always say this? that tap to diaz and everyone acts like he is the worst on the ground, that was gassing, he actually landed a beautiful sweep on diaz in round 1. and kept it on feet after multiple attempts by diaz in the 2nd bout. he fought a lot of wrestlers early and defended well as well as of course alvarez. his strikes completely took eddie out of his gameplan but eddie still went for it plenty. everything changes when you get hit though. Mendes fight is the only time he got tossed but his acl was more than half torn. i do agree though khabib is on a different level and i think we see how different that is saturday vs ferguson

this ^^

Mendes takes everyone down. I think that people overreact to that fight. I lean Conor in both matchups.

**firekillex** · 03-01-17, 03:12 AM

yup people always love to hate mcgregor , hes actually a solid grappler.. He man handled Max Holloway on the ground with a torn ACL like nothing, he was getting handled by Mendes on the ground but he was mainly just trying to tire him out and he reversed Mendes submission attempt , got up and tko'd him , he swept Diaz in the first fight and landed ontop in a scramble ...

He got exposed one time in the UFC on the ground mainly and thats when he was choked out by Diaz , but he was basically out on the feet , he tried to do the same scramble as he did against Mendes... but Diaz is probably 40 lbs bigger and while being half knocked out its difficult to pull that off, even an elite jiu jitsu guy could be out on the feet and get tapped out right after to look amateur ... maybe if he was at his full witts and that exact scenario happened id give more credit to the claim but doesnt make sense to me .... Especially rolling with Gunnar Nelson for years and now Dillon Danis guy definitely has a solid ground game but his striking is just so good thats all people see in the end and people will continue to hate

regardless Khabib is a much different level wrestler and Mcgregor would have to land something in the start of the rounds to get a finish i doubt he could win a decision there, but 5 rounds and every round starts standing i think hed have a solid shot... I could see either guy winning both have paths to victory , but with all khabibs injuries and Mcgregors momentum id lean him slightly

**JIBBBY** · 03-01-17, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

I don't think Woodley has ever been taken down in the UFC. At least not that I can remember. Tough matchup for Maia if he gets there. Both guys known for gassing hard.

Woodley beats Maia.. A strong quick wrestler with very good striking is Maia's Kriptonite..

Now Masvidal doesn't have the greatest take down defense but it's good, Masvidal is good on the ground and with scrambles and has been able to get back to his feet in the past when taken down.. So it's not gonna be easy for Maia..

Like I said I'm gonna hedge with the Masvidal KO prop just for insurance against the straight if the odds are good enough to that.. Masvidal is the real deal right now..

**PaperTrail07** · 03-01-17, 12:21 PM

with MAS.....makes a huge dif if its a 3 or 5 round IMO....3 round he USUALLY goes to decision...

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 12:28 PM

Bisping vs. GSP for the MW title later this year, according to Dana on ESPN. I imagine some of you have thoughts on this

**firekillex** · 03-01-17, 12:28 PM

GSP vs Bisping set for later this year

**JIBBBY** · 03-01-17, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

GSP vs Bisping set for later this year

Bisping ends up on his back all fight.. End of story.. Unless GSP isn't the same GSP of old.. He's been out a LONG time..

**strictlypaypal** · 03-01-17, 12:31 PM

Bisping GSP confirmed for a date TBD confirmed by dana on sports center

NVM posted 2 slow

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Bisping ends up on his back all fight.. End of story.. Unless GSP isn't the same GSP of old.. He's been out a LONG time..

I think there could be a few good props here. Wonder what the line will be. I'd guess GSP in the (-180) range even though he's coming off a layoff

**PaperTrail07** · 03-01-17, 01:08 PM

What a joke LOL

**PaperTrail07** · 03-01-17, 01:08 PM

GSP and BIS....2 of the most $%^*&*(&)( )*(^&*(& &(*&*(...of all time...

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 01:16 PM

If GSP wins there are a bunch of interesting fights for him at MW. How would be do against guys like Romero, Rockhold, and Jacare?

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 01:40 PM

Line opens on SportsInt:
Bisping (+120)
GSP (-150)

**Fatal1ty** · 03-01-17, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Bisping ends up on his back all fight.. End of story.. Unless GSP isn't the same GSP of old.. He's been out a LONG time..

Honestly, is there more than just curiousity seekers that give a legitimate penetrate about these two fighting?

**Hugo de Naranja** · 03-01-17, 01:51 PM

In other news, UFC has re-signed Misha Cirkunov. Thank God! He is the best LHW prospect imo

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 03-01-17, 01:52 PM

WTF is the UFC doing, even if GSP gets past Bisping, Romero is gonna murk him....

**firekillex** · 03-01-17, 01:58 PM

even GSP of old this is a tough fight for 5 rounds...
Bisping super good at getting off his back and will have a big size advantage

if he gets to +140 or more might take a stab at bisping , tough fight to call though especially with such a long layoff and bisping being active

**JIBBBY** · 03-01-17, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Fatal1ty

Honestly, is there more than just curiousity seekers that give a legitimate penetrate about these two fighting?

Those 2 fighters are very boring to watch I agree.. GSP lay and Pray, Bisbing pop and move, run to a decision.. Not a super fight that's for sure..

**PaperTrail07** · 03-01-17, 04:04 PM

Its a fight for NON FIGHT FANS lol...that fight fans are OK with and will watch...

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Those 2 fighters are very boring to watch I agree.. GSP lay and Pray, Bisbing pop and move, run to a decision.. Not a super fight that's for sure..

**Shagdogy** · 03-01-17, 10:24 PM

I can't stand GSP. Is he a middleweight now? Probably not... just sees an opportunity now that Bisping has the title. All that time away and he wasn't itching to get back in there to fight Silva, Weidman, or Rockhold. Then one day Bisping KO's an overconfident Rockhold and GSP picks up the phone right away? Come on man. I doubt it'll happen but I would love to see Bisping KO GSP just the same.

**getlucky2win** · 03-02-17, 03:36 AM

Never liked gsp. He cheats my boy bj penn and has always been a boring fighter. Now he takes the easiest fight possible. Knows he can't beat mcgoat Woodley wonderboy or even Silva. I think he retires again after this fight. Even if he wins there's no way he fights any top contenders like Romero rockhold or jacare

**Sato** · 03-02-17, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

WTF is the UFC doing, even if GSP gets past Bisping, Romero is gonna murk him....

The UFC is forced to quickly fill in the void Ronda has left. Big pressure by the new owners.

**MMANick** · 03-02-17, 10:06 AM

GSP beats Bisping, then loses to Jacare or Romero if he fights them.